<div dir="auto">I thought the key benefit was Sactioned Swag (tm)?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">- Whitey</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 at 17:04, Terry Manderson <<a href="mailto:terry@terrym.net">terry@terrym.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi Shaun,<div><br></div><div>are you aware that not all presentations can be streamed? Many presenters provide content that is "in room only" and even their slides can't be shared. How does that factor into you math? </div><div><br></div><div>That is the key benefit of AusNOG IMHO as there have been (and will be) many presentations you won't see on youtube.<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Cheers,</div><div>Terry</div><div>--</div><div>Mobile device, don't expect grammar.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 2 Aug 2022, at 4:33 pm, Shaun Deans <<a href="mailto:shaun@kadeo.com.au" target="_blank">shaun@kadeo.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>It got the better of me and I'm glad it did.<br></div><div><br></div><div>TLDR: 50x Streams = 'the sponsor' <i>- Swag </i><br></div><div><br></div><div>---<br></div><ol><li value="1">Income <br></li><ol><li>August 2022 = ~ <a href="https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2021/attendees" target="_blank">300 Attendees </a>at $600 <a href="https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2022/registration" target="_blank">per ticket (Average)</a> <br></li><li>Total $180K<br></li><li>Sponsors = 'Nearly Half' → $90K<br><br></li></ol><li>Who Done It And What Did They Offer ?<br></li><ol><li>I'm just going to say everyone pays equal but they probably don't<br></li><li>This will bias for the fact that it could be any tiering and we don't want to single out community members who may be sponsors<br></li><li>So the 'sponsor income' could be 15K <br></li><ol><li>nice round number<br></li><li>and its 'nearly half'<br><br></li></ol></ol><li>Streaming to to masses!<br></li><ol><li>50% Cost for Streaming Ticket = $300<br></li><li>Total Streams = $15,000 / $300<br></li><li>That's only <b>50 tickets and it may break even</b><br></li><ol><li>3 people said they'd be interested already.<br><br></li></ol></ol><li>This doesn't include:<br></li><ol><li>Savings: Onsite Costs such as venue hire, insurance, etc etc<br></li><li>Expenses: Bandwidth and Streaming Costs<img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F644.png" alt="🙄" title="🙄" style="height:15px!important;width:15px!important;vertical-align:text-bottom!important" height="15" width="15"><br><br></li></ol><li><i>Past performance is not a indicator of future performance. /s</i><br></li><li><i>All advice is general in nature /s<br></i><br></li></ol><div><img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F3A4.png" alt="🎤" title="🎤" style="height:15px!important;width:15px!important;vertical-align:text-bottom!important" height="15" width="15"> <img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F481-200D-2642-FE0F.png" alt="💁♂️" title="💁♂️" style="height:15px!important;width:15px!important;vertical-align:text-bottom!important" height="15" width="15"><br></div><div><br></div><div>SD.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><table dir="ltr" width="100%" style="float:none;font-size:12px;font-family:monospace;color:#000000;border-collapse:collapse" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family:monospace,sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:#000000;text-align:left" dir="ltr"><div><br></div><table width="100%" style="float:none;font-size:12px;font-family:monospace;color:#000000;border-collapse:collapse" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="line-height:18px"><table style="float:none;font-size:12px;font-family:monospace;color:#000000;border-collapse:collapse" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-size:25px;line-height:25px" width="100%" height="25"> <br></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><table><tbody><tr></tr></tbody></table></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 15:19:29, Shaun Deans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shaun@kadeo.com.au" target="_blank">shaun@kadeo.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><div>> <span style="font-size:14.6667px">How about NOG focus on meaningful things like streaming the event for those who can’t attend</span><br></div><div><br></div><div>I for one would pay up to 50% of the in-person price for a live stream. I have done just this for TedX.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Would love to see the math on the income from 'the sponsor' and stack that against the income from copious live streams (minus in-person overheads).<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For an NOG we seem to be very offline <img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F937-200D-2640-FE0F.png" alt="🤷♀️" title="🤷♀️" style="height:15px!important;width:15px!important;vertical-align:text-bottom!important" height="15" width="15"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><S>It not like we couldn't find some spare bandwidth for a live stream.</s><br></div><div dir="auto"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div>Cheers<br></div><div><br></div><div>Shaun Deans<br></div><div><img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F9D9-200D-2642-FE0F.png" alt="🧙♂️" title="🧙♂️" style="height:15px!important;width:15px!important;vertical-align:text-bottom!important" height="15" width="15"> <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://kadeo.au/" target="_blank">kadeo.au</a><br></div><div>1800 WKD KDO<br></div><div><img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F4F1.png" alt="📱" title="📱" style="height:15px!important;width:15px!important;vertical-align:text-bottom!important" height="15" width="15"><img src="https://emojis.superhuman.com/1F3C3-200D-2642-FE0F.png" alt="🏃♂️" title="🏃♂️" style="height:15px!important;width:15px!important;vertical-align:text-bottom!important" height="15" width="15"><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 14:43 Karl Kloppenborg, <<a href="mailto:k@rl.ag" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">k@rl.ag</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hi David,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">At 500-600 dollars a ticket, I’d like you to respect the financial commitment I’ve made to gathering as much merch from my industry peers as I’d like.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">This has historically always taken place and given the small community nature of NOG, something many of us look forward to as part of the experience, we like swapping our merch with our friends.
It saves postage.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I would say this not only misses the mark but is a continued slap of the face to all those that pay good money to attend the event in hopes to meet with their industry peers but more importantly <i>friends.</i></span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span></i><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">How about NOG focus on meaningful things like streaming the event for those who can’t attend, or providing a continued framework to making the event a safer place for all?</span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Honestly.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span style="font-size:11pt">Kind Regards,<u></u></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span style="font-size:11pt">--<u></u></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span style="font-size:11pt">Karl Kloppenborg, </span></span></b><i><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span style="font-size:11pt">(BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA Linux+ XK0-004)<u></u></span></span></i><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><span style="font-size:11pt">Managing Director, Invention Labs.<u></u></span></span><br></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span><br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">AusNOG <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:david@hughes.id" target="_blank">david@hughes.id</a> <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:david@hughes.id" target="_blank">david@hughes.id</a>><br> <b>Date: </b><span>Tuesday</span>, <span>2 August 2022</span> at 2:21 pm<br> <b>To: </b>AusNOG Mailing List <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br> <b>Subject: </b>[AusNOG] Promotional material at AusNOG Events.<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Afternoon all,<br> <br> We've been contacted by one of the sponsors of our conference in April about companies who aren't sponsors handing out promotional material, in particular branded t-shirts etc. While everyone likes getting a bag full of free merch, we ask that attendees respect
the financial commitment that our sponsors make towards funding the conference. They cover almost half the cost and in return they get the right to promote themselves to all of you who attend.<br> <br> If you are not a sponsor please do not distribute swag to delegates at the conference.<br> <br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> David, on behalf of the Board<br> ...<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> AusNOG mailing list<br> <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:AusNOG@ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@ausnog.net</a><br> </span><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt"></span></a><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div> AusNOG mailing list<br></div><div> <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:AusNOG@ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@ausnog.net</a><br></div><div> <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><div><div style="display:none;border:0px;width:0px;height:0px;overflow:hidden"><img src="https://r.superhuman.com/cAbrkpWVpnyn5H4aXSYSQHucjlVpKOAxjeobyuNvr5xGWVWmlHX4oFGqPrQLOXf3fjal8RdyUy0g451pezyAUHWbLr_60kl8oQILdPP3XVA-_i9U3olX2GkYjmnJu37F-d36QERGqxpj9m7Oy2frEVA8OBOuhIXIqx06_PjX3h1AiXLF0A.gif" alt=" " width="1" height="0" style="display:none;border:0px;width:0px;height:0px;overflow:hidden"></div></div></div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>AusNOG mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:AusNOG@ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@ausnog.net</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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