<div dir="auto">Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for "free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. 🤔</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Just 2c</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 24 Feb 2022, 19:10 Rob Thomas, <<a href="mailto:xrobau@gmail.com">xrobau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Can I *please* encourage everyone to answer any suspicious call, wait<br>
a few seconds, and then hang up. This does a couple of things.<br>
<br>
1. It tells us (the carriers) that it's a suspicious call. We have<br>
reports on short-length calls, and if one of our clients is making 10k<br>
calls a day, of which 80% are 2 seconds long, that rings many MANY<br>
alarm bells.<br>
2. Even if it's a carrier who is fast asleep, they're still going to<br>
charge the scammer for an answered call. No-one's getting free calls,<br>
no matter who they're dealing with. Answering the call, even for a few<br>
seconds, means it's costing them money.<br>
<br>
If it's NOT a scam call, and it's a real person, they'll call back. If<br>
it's a scam call, the auto-dialler will mark it as 'scammed', and move<br>
on to the next person.<br>
<br>
Feel free to share this around - this isn't rocket science, but if<br>
people don't know, they're not going to do it.<br>
<br>
tl;dr: Answer the scam call, wait 2 seconds at least, hang up.<br>
<br>
--Rob<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai <<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about<br>
> critical warning messages seen from my account recently".<br>
> Alex had a moderate Indian accent.<br>
><br>
> I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa.<br>
><br>
> Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up<br>
> scammed.<br>
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