[AusNOG] IPv6 Over Nothing
Go Group - Go Pages - Go Ogle - Go Live 2/6/26
gogroup.au at gmail.com
Fri Mar 20 20:56:37 AEDT 2026
G'Day Mark
For me, running the internet's longest continuous scientific experiment,
I'm now running on an oily rag, we have never derived an income or
registered any IP for any of these inventions eg. DEA , Go Pages , NSA ,
Ogle etc.
So if I was to go from IPV4 to IPV6 the number of tuples - go from 4.3
Billion to 340,282,366,920,938,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
I simply cannot afford a DB that can handle this as I have been using
abandonware for ~25 years, IT works so why change
I'm well aware of google infrastructure & using IPV6. When you don't pay
tax & are not concerned about what is happening to the environment ITs all
so easy.
I was part of the team running the most popular web site in the southern
hemisphere & largest Windows server / ESX IP network so have some
experience with IPV6 so I'm not ignorant, I have been squashed over & over
by U.S Bug ( ! Big ) tech, who complain to Australian Government about me
encouraging ppl to have multiple email addresses ( DEA ) or websites ( Go
Pages ) only available to Australians & not using robot.txt files or SSL
BTW - You did notice that Jason Green wants to buy IPV4 addresses :)
On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 at 17:07, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026, 16:40 Go Group - Go Pages - Go Ogle - Go Live 2/6/26,
> <gogroup.au at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> G'Day Mark
>>
>> Now that we are all in the cloud & a lot of IPV4 ranges were abandoned
>> over the past 2 decades, although I do notice a few wanting to be on-prem.
>> IPV4 recently, I don't see the need for IPV6, this is an interesting doc,
>> but ITs not a bus.case
>>
>
>
> So I'm guessing you only work on Enterprise networks?
>
> Most enterprise networks don't have the problem IPv6 solves - not enough
> IPv4 addresses - because they're using RFC1918 private addresses in
> combination with NAT.
>
> Places where IPv6 is being deployed are where private IPv4 addresses
> aren't adequate or where NAT capacity is expensive - primarily residential
> ISPs including on mobile networks.
>
> Nearly 50% of Google's access is over IPv6:
>
> https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html
>
> APNIC are also measuring IPv6 use:
>
> https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/
>
> If you think IPv6 isn't being deployed and used, you're just not looking
> in the right places.
>
> Regards,
> Mark.
>
>
>> Look at the price / sales of IPV4 dirt cheap & I'm not talking about
>> becoming an ISP & getting 1K of IPV4 for 'free' as part of the sign on with
>> ACMA ( BTW - I have worked at ACMA )
>>
>> I have been writing code for 50 years & socket apps. for many decades in
>> Assem , Basic & C ( ABC ) & was analyzing WAN traffic in mid. '90s &
>> nothing has changed, spammers can be detected in real time & our No Spam
>> Accepted ( NSA ) has not had a spam msg in ~25 years - Time Tested ???
>>
>> BTW - I see u are talking about performance, my idea has always been why
>> provide criminals with a gr8 experience, I want my link to be very slow &
>> our NSA tech. puts suspects to sleep, often for 5 secs. per SMTP session
>> before refusing to accept msg.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 at 14:34, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "It's not an April Fools joke!" - Arnold Schwarzenegger.
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-smith-6man-ipv6-over-nothing/
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