From matthew at rampant.com.au Tue Jan 3 15:37:50 2023 From: matthew at rampant.com.au (Matthew Malcolm) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 04:37:50 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues Message-ID: <8b32beb8e2c54fe698124dc0d71b902c@rampant.com.au> Hi All, We have seen this a few times recently and are having the issue with another client today They are with WebCentral / Netregistry and the DNS for their CNames is not resolving We can dig the domain is various places but if I open NSLookup againt ns?.netregistry.net (The delegated name servers) and ask it for the appropriate domain name or record I get ?Unspecified error? or ?Server Failed? Apparently this is normal for the DNS servers as there support people told me the issue is not this error on their servers but Microsoft Email system breaking the Autodiscover CName I was told to move my DNS if this is s timely issue as they are not planning on investigating it. (And they also agreed moving the DNS would fix the issues which was strange for me to hear a support tech say that) Is this just something that we are seeing over and over with various client at WebCentral/Netregistry or do they really have a larger issue There are a few Reddit forums that are complaining about similar issues going back months Here is one such forum I am finding it hard to believe that a major Player would allow this type of failure to go on for hours let alone months Any insight would be great as DNS not doing it?s thing is really If this is something the Client can fix I would love to know what we have overlooked Regards,?? Matthew Malcolm ? [cid:image001.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] MATTHEW MALCOLM Business Development / Technical Specialist , Sophos Certified Architect, Sophos Sales Certified Rampant Technology Pty Ltd 07 3216 8357 matthew at rampant.com.au | www.rampant.technology 38 Badminton St , Mt Gravatt East, QLD 4122 [cid:image002.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image003.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image004.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] COMPTIA Member, partnering with Microsoft and Sophos to bring you ?expert standard service. [cid:image005.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image006.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image007.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] Proud sponsors of Keep Queensland Beautiful, ?Heart of Australia, and 96.5 FM. [cid:image008.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image009.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image010.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] Rampant Technology acknowledges the Yaggera and Turrbal people, the Traditional Custodians of Kaggur?mabul country on ?which we work and gather as employees. 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Name: image010.png Type: image/png Size: 6447 bytes Desc: image010.png URL: From mitchkelly24 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 15:41:40 2023 From: mitchkelly24 at gmail.com (Mitch Kelly) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 12:41:40 +0800 Subject: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues In-Reply-To: <8b32beb8e2c54fe698124dc0d71b902c@rampant.com.au> References: <8b32beb8e2c54fe698124dc0d71b902c@rampant.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Yes also having issue renewing about three domains which expire today . It looks like they take your money but don't actually renew them, generally it's not an issue and it's done pretty much instantly. I do also note that a new registered domain on Friday we changed the name servers and they didnt update. No response to my ticket yet. On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 12:38 pm Matthew Malcolm, wrote: > Hi All, > > > > We have seen this a few times recently and are having the issue with > another client today > > They are with WebCentral / Netregistry and the DNS for their CNames is not > resolving > > We can dig the domain is various places but if I open NSLookup againt ns?. > netregistry.net (The delegated name servers) and ask it for the > appropriate domain name or record I get ?Unspecified error? or ?Server > Failed? > > Apparently this is normal for the DNS servers as there support people told > me the issue is not this error on their servers but Microsoft Email system > breaking the Autodiscover CName > > > > I was told to move my DNS if this is s timely issue as they are not > planning on investigating it. (And they also agreed moving the DNS would > fix the issues which was strange for me to hear a support tech say that) > > Is this just something that we are seeing over and over with various > client at WebCentral/Netregistry or do they really have a larger issue > > There are a few Reddit forums that are complaining about similar issues > going back months Here is one such forum > > > I am finding it hard to believe that a major Player would allow this type > of failure to go on for hours let alone months > > > > Any insight would be great as DNS not doing it?s thing is really > > If this is something the Client can fix I would love to know what we have > overlooked > > > > > > > > Regards,?? > Matthew Malcolm > ? > > *MATTHEW MALCOLM* > > *Business Development / Technical Specialist* > > *, * > > Sophos Certified Architect, Sophos Sales Certified > > *Rampant Technology Pty Ltd* > > 07 3216 8357 > > matthew at rampant.com.au > > | > > www.rampant.technology > > 38 Badminton St > > , > > Mt Gravatt East, QLD > > > > 4122 > > > > > > > > > COMPTIA Member, partnering with Microsoft and Sophos to bring you ?expert standard service. > > > Proud sponsors of Keep Queensland Beautiful, ?Heart of Australia, and 96.5 FM. > > > Rampant Technology acknowledges the Yaggera and Turrbal people, the Traditional Custodians of Kaggur?mabul country on > > ?which we work and gather as employees. 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[cid:image001.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] MATTHEW MALCOLM Business Development / Technical Specialist , Sophos Certified Architect, Sophos Sales Certified Rampant Technology Pty Ltd 07 3216 8357 matthew at rampant.com.au | www.rampant.technology 38 Badminton St , Mt Gravatt East, QLD 4122 [cid:image002.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] [cid:image003.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] [cid:image004.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] COMPTIA Member, partnering with Microsoft and Sophos to bring you ?expert standard service. [cid:image005.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] [cid:image006.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] [cid:image007.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] Proud sponsors of Keep Queensland Beautiful, ?Heart of Australia, and 96.5 FM. [cid:image008.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] [cid:image009.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] [cid:image010.png at 01D91F81.F6A85710] Rampant Technology acknowledges the Yaggera and Turrbal people, the Traditional Custodians of Kaggur?mabul country on ?which we work and gather as employees. We recognise their continuing connection to land, sea, and community and pay ?respect to the Elders past, present, and emerging. DISCLAIMER: This email is for the use of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please notify ?the sender immediately and then delete the message. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, or ?distribute this email without the author's prior permissions. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting ?software viruses, but we advise that you carry out your own virus checks on any attachments relating to this message. We ?cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Internet email is not a secure ?communication ?medium and we advise that you observe this lack of security when emailing this office. All correspondence and work carried ?out by Rampant staff is done so under the terms and conditions found at https//:www.rampant.technology From: Mitch Kelly Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 2:42 PM To: Matthew Malcolm Cc: ausnog Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues Hi Yes also having issue renewing about three domains which expire today . It looks like they take your money but don't actually renew them, generally it's not an issue and it's done pretty much instantly. I do also note that a new registered domain on Friday we changed the name servers and they didnt update. No response to my ticket yet. On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 12:38 pm Matthew Malcolm, > wrote: Hi All, We have seen this a few times recently and are having the issue with another client today They are with WebCentral / Netregistry and the DNS for their CNames is not resolving We can dig the domain is various places but if I open NSLookup againt ns?.netregistry.net (The delegated name servers) and ask it for the appropriate domain name or record I get ?Unspecified error? or ?Server Failed? Apparently this is normal for the DNS servers as there support people told me the issue is not this error on their servers but Microsoft Email system breaking the Autodiscover CName I was told to move my DNS if this is s timely issue as they are not planning on investigating it. (And they also agreed moving the DNS would fix the issues which was strange for me to hear a support tech say that) Is this just something that we are seeing over and over with various client at WebCentral/Netregistry or do they really have a larger issue There are a few Reddit forums that are complaining about similar issues going back months Here is one such forum I am finding it hard to believe that a major Player would allow this type of failure to go on for hours let alone months Any insight would be great as DNS not doing it?s thing is really If this is something the Client can fix I would love to know what we have overlooked Regards,?? Matthew Malcolm ? [cid:image001.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] MATTHEW MALCOLM Business Development / Technical Specialist , Sophos Certified Architect, Sophos Sales Certified Rampant Technology Pty Ltd 07 3216 8357 matthew at rampant.com.au | www.rampant.technology 38 Badminton St , Mt Gravatt East, QLD 4122 [cid:image002.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image003.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image004.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] COMPTIA Member, partnering with Microsoft and Sophos to bring you ?expert standard service. [cid:image005.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image006.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image007.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] Proud sponsors of Keep Queensland Beautiful, ?Heart of Australia, and 96.5 FM. [cid:image008.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image009.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] [cid:image010.png at 01D91F80.CB6CA430] Rampant Technology acknowledges the Yaggera and Turrbal people, the Traditional Custodians of Kaggur?mabul country on ?which we work and gather as employees. We recognise their continuing connection to land, sea, and community and pay ?respect to the Elders past, present, and emerging. DISCLAIMER: This email is for the use of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please notify ?the sender immediately and then delete the message. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, or ?distribute this email without the author's prior permissions. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting ?software viruses, but we advise that you carry out your own virus checks on any attachments relating to this message. We ?cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Internet email is not a secure ?communication ?medium and we advise that you observe this lack of security when emailing this office. 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Name: image010.png Type: image/png Size: 6447 bytes Desc: image010.png URL: From mitchkelly24 at gmail.com Tue Jan 3 15:46:43 2023 From: mitchkelly24 at gmail.com (Mitch Kelly) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 12:46:43 +0800 Subject: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues In-Reply-To: References: <8b32beb8e2c54fe698124dc0d71b902c@rampant.com.au> Message-ID: Great, thanks for that. I plan on moving all of my domains to web in a box over the next couple of weeks. Mitch On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 12:45 pm Matthew Malcolm, wrote: > Thanks Mitch > > > > We had that issue last month the client said move and it was days before > the DNS was updated properly > > The whole time we were getting sledged by the client > > As it appears to be an ongoing issue not a once off thing > > I think we may have to proactively start moving delegation if this is more > than an us issue > > > > > > > > Regards,?? > Matthew Malcolm > ? > > *MATTHEW MALCOLM* > > *Business Development / Technical Specialist* > > *, * > > Sophos Certified Architect, Sophos Sales Certified > > *Rampant Technology Pty Ltd* > > 07 3216 8357 > > matthew at rampant.com.au > > | > > www.rampant.technology > > 38 Badminton St > > , > > Mt Gravatt East, QLD > > > > 4122 > > > > > > > > > COMPTIA Member, partnering with Microsoft and Sophos to bring you ?expert standard service. > > > Proud sponsors of Keep Queensland Beautiful, ?Heart of Australia, and 96.5 FM. > > > Rampant Technology acknowledges the Yaggera and Turrbal people, the Traditional Custodians of Kaggur?mabul country on > > ?which we work and gather as employees. We recognise their continuing connection to land, sea, and community and pay > ?respect to the Elders past, present, and emerging. > > > DISCLAIMER: This email is for the use of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please notify > > ?the sender immediately and then delete the message. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, or > > ?distribute this email without the author's prior permissions. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting > > ?software viruses, but we advise that you carry out your own virus checks on any attachments relating to this message. We > > ?cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Internet email is not a secure ?communication > > ?medium and we advise that you observe this lack of security when emailing this office. All correspondence and work carried > > ?out by Rampant staff is done so under the terms and conditions found at https//:www.rampant.technology > > > > *From:* Mitch Kelly > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 January 2023 2:42 PM > *To:* Matthew Malcolm > *Cc:* ausnog > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues > > > > Hi > > > > Yes also having issue renewing about three domains which expire today . It > looks like they take your money but don't actually renew them, generally > it's not an issue and it's done pretty much instantly. > > > > I do also note that a new registered domain on Friday we changed the name > servers and they didnt update. > > > > No response to my ticket yet. > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 12:38 pm Matthew Malcolm, > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > We have seen this a few times recently and are having the issue with > another client today > > They are with WebCentral / Netregistry and the DNS for their CNames is not > resolving > > We can dig the domain is various places but if I open NSLookup againt ns?. > netregistry.net (The delegated name servers) and ask it for the > appropriate domain name or record I get ?Unspecified error? or ?Server > Failed? > > Apparently this is normal for the DNS servers as there support people told > me the issue is not this error on their servers but Microsoft Email system > breaking the Autodiscover CName > > > > I was told to move my DNS if this is s timely issue as they are not > planning on investigating it. (And they also agreed moving the DNS would > fix the issues which was strange for me to hear a support tech say that) > > Is this just something that we are seeing over and over with various > client at WebCentral/Netregistry or do they really have a larger issue > > There are a few Reddit forums that are complaining about similar issues > going back months Here is one such forum > > > I am finding it hard to believe that a major Player would allow this type > of failure to go on for hours let alone months > > > > Any insight would be great as DNS not doing it?s thing is really > > If this is something the Client can fix I would love to know what we have > overlooked > > > > > > > > Regards,?? > Matthew Malcolm > ? > > *MATTHEW MALCOLM* > > *Business Development / Technical Specialist* > > *, * > > Sophos Certified Architect, Sophos Sales Certified > > *Rampant Technology Pty Ltd* > > 07 3216 8357 > > matthew at rampant.com.au > > | > > www.rampant.technology > > 38 Badminton St > > , > > Mt Gravatt East, QLD > > > > 4122 > > > > > > > > > COMPTIA Member, partnering with Microsoft and Sophos to bring you ?expert standard service. > > > Proud sponsors of Keep Queensland Beautiful, ?Heart of Australia, and 96.5 FM. > > > Rampant Technology acknowledges the Yaggera and Turrbal people, the Traditional Custodians of Kaggur?mabul country on > > ?which we work and gather as employees. We recognise their continuing connection to land, sea, and community and pay > ?respect to the Elders past, present, and emerging. > > > DISCLAIMER: This email is for the use of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please notify > > ?the sender immediately and then delete the message. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, or > > ?distribute this email without the author's prior permissions. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting > > ?software viruses, but we advise that you carry out your own virus checks on any attachments relating to this message. We > > ?cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Internet email is not a secure ?communication > > ?medium and we advise that you observe this lack of security when emailing this office. 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I plan on moving all of my domains to web in a box over the next couple of weeks. Mitch On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 12:45 pm Matthew Malcolm, > wrote: Thanks Mitch We had that issue last month the client said move and it was days before the DNS was updated properly The whole time we were getting sledged by the client As it appears to be an ongoing issue not a once off thing I think we may have to proactively start moving delegation if this is more than an us issue Regards,?? Matthew Malcolm ? MATTHEW MALCOLM Business Development / Technical Specialist , Sophos Certified Architect, Sophos Sales Certified Rampant Technology Pty Ltd 07 3216 8357 matthew at rampant.com.au | www.rampant.technology 38 Badminton St , Mt Gravatt East, QLD 4122 COMPTIA Member, partnering with Microsoft and Sophos to bring you ?expert standard service. Proud sponsors of Keep Queensland Beautiful, ?Heart of Australia, and 96.5 FM. Rampant Technology acknowledges the Yaggera and Turrbal people, the Traditional Custodians of Kaggur?mabul country on ?which we work and gather as employees. We recognise their continuing connection to land, sea, and community and pay ?respect to the Elders past, present, and emerging. DISCLAIMER: This email is for the use of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please notify ?the sender immediately and then delete the message. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, or ?distribute this email without the author's prior permissions. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting ?software viruses, but we advise that you carry out your own virus checks on any attachments relating to this message. We ?cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Internet email is not a secure ?communication ?medium and we advise that you observe this lack of security when emailing this office. All correspondence and work carried ?out by Rampant staff is done so under the terms and conditions found at https//:www.rampant.technology From: Mitch Kelly > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 2:42 PM To: Matthew Malcolm > Cc: ausnog > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues Hi Yes also having issue renewing about three domains which expire today . It looks like they take your money but don't actually renew them, generally it's not an issue and it's done pretty much instantly. I do also note that a new registered domain on Friday we changed the name servers and they didnt update. No response to my ticket yet. On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 12:38 pm Matthew Malcolm, > wrote: Hi All, We have seen this a few times recently and are having the issue with another client today They are with WebCentral / Netregistry and the DNS for their CNames is not resolving We can dig the domain is various places but if I open NSLookup againt ns?.netregistry.net (The delegated name servers) and ask it for the appropriate domain name or record I get ?Unspecified error? or ?Server Failed? Apparently this is normal for the DNS servers as there support people told me the issue is not this error on their servers but Microsoft Email system breaking the Autodiscover CName I was told to move my DNS if this is s timely issue as they are not planning on investigating it. (And they also agreed moving the DNS would fix the issues which was strange for me to hear a support tech say that) Is this just something that we are seeing over and over with various client at WebCentral/Netregistry or do they really have a larger issue There are a few Reddit forums that are complaining about similar issues going back months Here is one such forum I am finding it hard to believe that a major Player would allow this type of failure to go on for hours let alone months Any insight would be great as DNS not doing it?s thing is really If this is something the Client can fix I would love to know what we have overlooked Regards,?? Matthew Malcolm ? 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URL: From brad at bradleyamm.com Tue Jan 3 17:40:29 2023 From: brad at bradleyamm.com (brad at bradleyamm.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 14:40:29 +0800 Subject: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues In-Reply-To: <057e01d91f30$85f9eb60$91edc220$@welcorp.com> References: <8b32beb8e2c54fe698124dc0d71b902c@rampant.com.au> <057e01d91f30$85f9eb60$91edc220$@welcorp.com> Message-ID: <002f01d91f3e$47500440$d5f00cc0$@bradleyamm.com> We have the same nameservers not found issues for one of our domains. The company doesn?t want to move so we just leave it and deal with the panicked our website is down emails every few weeks. The rest are either on Godaddy or Cloudflare and have no issues From: AusNOG On Behalf Of john.h at welcorp.com Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 1:02 PM To: 'Mitch Kelly' ; 'Matthew Malcolm' Cc: 'ausnog' Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues We observed these same Webcentral intermittent DNS issues for years, and without much luck from support. So last year moved many A, CNAME, MX, and TXT records to a free DNS Cloudflare account, which seems significantly more reliable to me. John H From: AusNOG > On Behalf Of Mitch Kelly Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 3:17 PM To: Matthew Malcolm > Cc: ausnog > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues Great, thanks for that. I plan on moving all of my domains to web in a box over the next couple of weeks. Mitch On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 12:45 pm Matthew Malcolm, > wrote: Thanks Mitch We had that issue last month the client said move and it was days before the DNS was updated properly The whole time we were getting sledged by the client As it appears to be an ongoing issue not a once off thing I think we may have to proactively start moving delegation if this is more than an us issue Regards,?? Matthew Malcolm ? MATTHEW MALCOLM Business Development / Technical Specialist , Sophos Certified Architect, Sophos Sales Certified Rampant Technology Pty Ltd 07 3216 8357 matthew at rampant.com.au | www.rampant.technology 38 Badminton St , Mt Gravatt East, QLD 4122 COMPTIA Member, partnering with Microsoft and Sophos to bring you ?expert standard service. Proud sponsors of Keep Queensland Beautiful, ?Heart of Australia, and 96.5 FM. Rampant Technology acknowledges the Yaggera and Turrbal people, the Traditional Custodians of Kaggur?mabul country on ?which we work and gather as employees. We recognise their continuing connection to land, sea, and community and pay ?respect to the Elders past, present, and emerging. DISCLAIMER: This email is for the use of the intended recipient only. If you have received this email in error, please notify ?the sender immediately and then delete the message. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, or ?distribute this email without the author's prior permissions. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting ?software viruses, but we advise that you carry out your own virus checks on any attachments relating to this message. We ?cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Internet email is not a secure ?communication ?medium and we advise that you observe this lack of security when emailing this office. All correspondence and work carried ?out by Rampant staff is done so under the terms and conditions found at https//:www.rampant.technology From: Mitch Kelly > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 2:42 PM To: Matthew Malcolm > Cc: ausnog > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Re Webcenral / Netregistry DNS issues Hi Yes also having issue renewing about three domains which expire today . It looks like they take your money but don't actually renew them, generally it's not an issue and it's done pretty much instantly. I do also note that a new registered domain on Friday we changed the name servers and they didnt update. No response to my ticket yet. On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 12:38 pm Matthew Malcolm, > wrote: Hi All, We have seen this a few times recently and are having the issue with another client today They are with WebCentral / Netregistry and the DNS for their CNames is not resolving We can dig the domain is various places but if I open NSLookup againt ns?.netregistry.net (The delegated name servers) and ask it for the appropriate domain name or record I get ?Unspecified error? or ?Server Failed? Apparently this is normal for the DNS servers as there support people told me the issue is not this error on their servers but Microsoft Email system breaking the Autodiscover CName I was told to move my DNS if this is s timely issue as they are not planning on investigating it. (And they also agreed moving the DNS would fix the issues which was strange for me to hear a support tech say that) Is this just something that we are seeing over and over with various client at WebCentral/Netregistry or do they really have a larger issue There are a few Reddit forums that are complaining about similar issues going back months Here is one such forum I am finding it hard to believe that a major Player would allow this type of failure to go on for hours let alone months Any insight would be great as DNS not doing it?s thing is really If this is something the Client can fix I would love to know what we have overlooked Regards,?? Matthew Malcolm ? 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URL: From brad at bradleyamm.com Tue Jan 3 21:04:38 2023 From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 18:04:38 +0800 Subject: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making In-Reply-To: References: <3ADC30DC-9137-4478-9ADC-66FFE2A5DF8B@iperium.com.au> <299FF46B-085B-46E0-A995-F45387D9464C@iperium.com.au> Message-ID: Well they are dead https://imgur.com/a/jmO3Mkk On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 4:22 PM Chad Kelly wrote: > Yeah I get that. > > Bit concerned they?ve only invested $300000 which is nothing for an ISP. > You need $10000000 at least just to get something half decent in terms of > network. > > You need a few more million for marketing on top of that. > > This is why it works for the likes of Australia post as they already have > a captive audience to sell to and they?ve gone layer 3 so not much > investment required layer 2 you need millions to do it properly. > > > > This is why I went for the business side of the market partly because we > were already a business to business provider but the margins on business > broadband are so much better than residential. > > > > Regards Chad. > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > *From:* Nathan Brookfield > *Sent:* Saturday, 3 December 2022 6:53 PM > *To:* Chad Kelly > *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the > making > > > > It?s all about volume. > > *Nathan Brookfield * > General Manager > > *p*: 1300 592 330 | *m*: 0412 266 008 | *w*: https://Iperium.com.au > > > Level 7, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000 > > *Your Connectivity Team* > > > DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This > electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, > contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and > otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual > property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the > information contained in this document, by any person other than the > addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, > please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any > computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by > reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are > solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of > Iperium. > > WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient > should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. > Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted > by this email. > > > On 3 Dec 2022, at 13:02, Chad Kelly wrote: > > ? > > Hi > > Just to clarify it wasn?t so much the plans pricing that was concerning > me, but more the lack of margin. > > $3 per customer isn?t a lot for things like support and monitoring etc, as > I understand it the lower NBN plans you should be making around $7 to $10 > per customer and the higher ones $20 plus. > > End of the day its up to each provider to make their own decisions on > margins etc I think it will be interesting to see how they go anyway. > > Regards Chad. > > > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > > > *From:* Nathan Brookfield > *Sent:* Friday, 2 December 2022 11:49 PM > *To:* Chad Kelly > *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the > making > > > > Their retail prices are almost identical to ours, I think they?re pretty > reasonable especially if they?re an RSP. > > > > > > *NBN * > > *iperium.com.au * > > > > > > *Nathan Brookfield * > > > > DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This > electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, > contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and > otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual > property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the > information contained in this document, by any person other than the > addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, > please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any > computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by > reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are > solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of > Iperium. > > WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient > should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. > Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted > by this email. > > > On 2 Dec 2022, at 23:15, Chad Kelly wrote: > > ? > > Hi All . > > Came across this new provider on Whingepool (whirlpool) while doing some > casual browsing www.zoombroadband.com.au . > > Pricing looks very much unsustainable and the business model horrifies me. > > Plus this post on Ozbargain > https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739835?page=4#comment > > Look at page 5. > > Now I know the margins on NBN aren?t fantastic but $3 I wouldn?t even > waste time with. > > I mean I don?t want to discourage new players from entering the market and > giving it a crack but I think you at least need to be able to walk before > you can run. > > Also you need to comply with the TIO requirements and the Comms alliance > for ISPs. As in the codes of conduct. > > Regards Chad. > > > > > > > > > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 97720 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chad at cpkws.com.au Tue Jan 3 21:30:10 2023 From: chad at cpkws.com.au (Chad Kelly) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 10:30:10 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making In-Reply-To: References: <3ADC30DC-9137-4478-9ADC-66FFE2A5DF8B@iperium.com.au> <299FF46B-085B-46E0-A995-F45387D9464C@iperium.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Yeah noticed that. The website still looks like it?s taking money though. Unless they just haven?t updated the homepage didn?t pay too much attention. One thing I did point out to them is that November is a rather odd time for setting up an ISP, right before everyone goes on imbargo period. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au [cid:image001.jpg at 01D91FB9.0600D930] From: Bradley Amm Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 9:05 PM To: Chad Kelly Cc: Nathan Brookfield ; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making Well they are dead https://imgur.com/a/jmO3Mkk On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 4:22 PM Chad Kelly > wrote: Yeah I get that. Bit concerned they?ve only invested $300000 which is nothing for an ISP. You need $10000000 at least just to get something half decent in terms of network. You need a few more million for marketing on top of that. This is why it works for the likes of Australia post as they already have a captive audience to sell to and they?ve gone layer 3 so not much investment required layer 2 you need millions to do it properly. This is why I went for the business side of the market partly because we were already a business to business provider but the margins on business broadband are so much better than residential. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au [cid:image001.jpg at 01D91FB9.0600D930] From: Nathan Brookfield > Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2022 6:53 PM To: Chad Kelly > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making It?s all about volume. Nathan Brookfield General Manager p: 1300 592 330 | m: 0412 266 008 | w: https://Iperium.com.au Level 7, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000 Your Connectivity Team DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. On 3 Dec 2022, at 13:02, Chad Kelly > wrote: ? Hi Just to clarify it wasn?t so much the plans pricing that was concerning me, but more the lack of margin. $3 per customer isn?t a lot for things like support and monitoring etc, as I understand it the lower NBN plans you should be making around $7 to $10 per customer and the higher ones $20 plus. End of the day its up to each provider to make their own decisions on margins etc I think it will be interesting to see how they go anyway. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au From: Nathan Brookfield > Sent: Friday, 2 December 2022 11:49 PM To: Chad Kelly > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making Their retail prices are almost identical to ours, I think they?re pretty reasonable especially if they?re an RSP. NBN iperium.com.au Nathan Brookfield DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. On 2 Dec 2022, at 23:15, Chad Kelly > wrote: ? Hi All . Came across this new provider on Whingepool (whirlpool) while doing some casual browsing www.zoombroadband.com.au . Pricing looks very much unsustainable and the business model horrifies me. Plus this post on Ozbargain https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739835?page=4#comment Look at page 5. Now I know the margins on NBN aren?t fantastic but $3 I wouldn?t even waste time with. I mean I don?t want to discourage new players from entering the market and giving it a crack but I think you at least need to be able to walk before you can run. Also you need to comply with the TIO requirements and the Comms alliance for ISPs. As in the codes of conduct. Regards Chad. 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Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au [cid:image001.jpg at 01D91FC3.09AEBA70] From: Bradley Amm Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 10:16 PM To: Chad Kelly Cc: Nathan Brookfield ; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making They probably can?t get another Microtik from eBay fast enough. Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jan 2023, at 6:30 pm, Chad Kelly > wrote: ? Hi Yeah noticed that. The website still looks like it?s taking money though. Unless they just haven?t updated the homepage didn?t pay too much attention. One thing I did point out to them is that November is a rather odd time for setting up an ISP, right before everyone goes on imbargo period. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au [image001.jpg] From: Bradley Amm > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 9:05 PM To: Chad Kelly > Cc: Nathan Brookfield >; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making Well they are dead https://imgur.com/a/jmO3Mkk On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 4:22 PM Chad Kelly > wrote: Yeah I get that. Bit concerned they?ve only invested $300000 which is nothing for an ISP. You need $10000000 at least just to get something half decent in terms of network. You need a few more million for marketing on top of that. This is why it works for the likes of Australia post as they already have a captive audience to sell to and they?ve gone layer 3 so not much investment required layer 2 you need millions to do it properly. This is why I went for the business side of the market partly because we were already a business to business provider but the margins on business broadband are so much better than residential. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au [image001.jpg] From: Nathan Brookfield > Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2022 6:53 PM To: Chad Kelly > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making It?s all about volume. Nathan Brookfield General Manager p: 1300 592 330 | m: 0412 266 008 | w: https://Iperium.com.au Level 7, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000 Your Connectivity Team DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. On 3 Dec 2022, at 13:02, Chad Kelly > wrote: ? Hi Just to clarify it wasn?t so much the plans pricing that was concerning me, but more the lack of margin. $3 per customer isn?t a lot for things like support and monitoring etc, as I understand it the lower NBN plans you should be making around $7 to $10 per customer and the higher ones $20 plus. End of the day its up to each provider to make their own decisions on margins etc I think it will be interesting to see how they go anyway. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au From: Nathan Brookfield > Sent: Friday, 2 December 2022 11:49 PM To: Chad Kelly > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making Their retail prices are almost identical to ours, I think they?re pretty reasonable especially if they?re an RSP. NBN iperium.com.au Nathan Brookfield DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. On 2 Dec 2022, at 23:15, Chad Kelly > wrote: ? Hi All . Came across this new provider on Whingepool (whirlpool) while doing some casual browsing www.zoombroadband.com.au . Pricing looks very much unsustainable and the business model horrifies me. Plus this post on Ozbargain https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739835?page=4#comment Look at page 5. Now I know the margins on NBN aren?t fantastic but $3 I wouldn?t even waste time with. I mean I don?t want to discourage new players from entering the market and giving it a crack but I think you at least need to be able to walk before you can run. Also you need to comply with the TIO requirements and the Comms alliance for ISPs. As in the codes of conduct. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG at ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 97720 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From chad at cpkws.com.au Tue Jan 3 22:38:51 2023 From: chad at cpkws.com.au (Chad Kelly) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 11:38:51 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making In-Reply-To: <9BEF1137-FF6E-42E4-B834-05DA5CA31AC8@bradleyamm.com> References: <9BEF1137-FF6E-42E4-B834-05DA5CA31AC8@bradleyamm.com> Message-ID: I must plug Interactive.com.au at this point, pretty much guaranteed to fix any out of warranty hardware and have parts. Shows their lack of industry knowledge that the guys at Zoom BB didn?t know they existed, they are one of the largest IT firms in the country now a days. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au [cid:image001.jpg at 01D91FC3.A9D124C0] From: Bradley Amm Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 10:16 PM To: Chad Kelly Cc: Nathan Brookfield ; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making They probably can?t get another Microtik from eBay fast enough. Sent from my iPhone On 3 Jan 2023, at 6:30 pm, Chad Kelly > wrote: ? Hi Yeah noticed that. The website still looks like it?s taking money though. Unless they just haven?t updated the homepage didn?t pay too much attention. One thing I did point out to them is that November is a rather odd time for setting up an ISP, right before everyone goes on imbargo period. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au [image001.jpg] From: Bradley Amm > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 9:05 PM To: Chad Kelly > Cc: Nathan Brookfield >; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making Well they are dead https://imgur.com/a/jmO3Mkk On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 4:22 PM Chad Kelly > wrote: Yeah I get that. Bit concerned they?ve only invested $300000 which is nothing for an ISP. You need $10000000 at least just to get something half decent in terms of network. You need a few more million for marketing on top of that. This is why it works for the likes of Australia post as they already have a captive audience to sell to and they?ve gone layer 3 so not much investment required layer 2 you need millions to do it properly. This is why I went for the business side of the market partly because we were already a business to business provider but the margins on business broadband are so much better than residential. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au [image001.jpg] From: Nathan Brookfield > Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2022 6:53 PM To: Chad Kelly > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making It?s all about volume. Nathan Brookfield General Manager p: 1300 592 330 | m: 0412 266 008 | w: https://Iperium.com.au Level 7, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000 Your Connectivity Team DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. On 3 Dec 2022, at 13:02, Chad Kelly > wrote: ? Hi Just to clarify it wasn?t so much the plans pricing that was concerning me, but more the lack of margin. $3 per customer isn?t a lot for things like support and monitoring etc, as I understand it the lower NBN plans you should be making around $7 to $10 per customer and the higher ones $20 plus. End of the day its up to each provider to make their own decisions on margins etc I think it will be interesting to see how they go anyway. Regards Chad. Chad Kelly Manager CPK Web Services Phone 03 52730246 Web https://www.cpkws.com.au From: Nathan Brookfield > Sent: Friday, 2 December 2022 11:49 PM To: Chad Kelly > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making Their retail prices are almost identical to ours, I think they?re pretty reasonable especially if they?re an RSP. NBN iperium.com.au Nathan Brookfield DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium. WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. On 2 Dec 2022, at 23:15, Chad Kelly > wrote: ? Hi All . Came across this new provider on Whingepool (whirlpool) while doing some casual browsing www.zoombroadband.com.au . Pricing looks very much unsustainable and the business model horrifies me. Plus this post on Ozbargain https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739835?page=4#comment Look at page 5. Now I know the margins on NBN aren?t fantastic but $3 I wouldn?t even waste time with. I mean I don?t want to discourage new players from entering the market and giving it a crack but I think you at least need to be able to walk before you can run. Also you need to comply with the TIO requirements and the Comms alliance for ISPs. As in the codes of conduct. Regards Chad. 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Please reread the charter to refresh your memory on what the purpose of this mailing list is. https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter There's a Rep forum on Whirlpool where this ISP can be discussed, as Wild IT and others were. On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 22:39 Chad Kelly, wrote: > I must plug Interactive.com.au at this point, pretty much guaranteed to > fix any out of warranty hardware and have parts. Shows their lack of > industry knowledge that the guys at Zoom BB didn?t know they existed, they > are one of the largest IT firms in the country now a days. > > Regards Chad. > > > > > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > *From:* Bradley Amm > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 January 2023 10:16 PM > *To:* Chad Kelly > *Cc:* Nathan Brookfield ; > ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the > making > > > > They probably can?t get another Microtik from eBay fast enough. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On 3 Jan 2023, at 6:30 pm, Chad Kelly wrote: > > ? > > Hi Yeah noticed that. > > The website still looks like it?s taking money though. > > Unless they just haven?t updated the homepage didn?t pay too much > attention. > > One thing I did point out to them is that November is a rather odd time > for setting up an ISP, right before everyone goes on imbargo period. > > > > > > Regards Chad. > > > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > [image: image001.jpg] > > > > *From:* Bradley Amm > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 January 2023 9:05 PM > *To:* Chad Kelly > *Cc:* Nathan Brookfield ; > ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the > making > > > > Well they are dead > > > > https://imgur.com/a/jmO3Mkk > > > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 4:22 PM Chad Kelly wrote: > > Yeah I get that. > > Bit concerned they?ve only invested $300000 which is nothing for an ISP. > You need $10000000 at least just to get something half decent in terms of > network. > > You need a few more million for marketing on top of that. > > This is why it works for the likes of Australia post as they already have > a captive audience to sell to and they?ve gone layer 3 so not much > investment required layer 2 you need millions to do it properly. > > > > This is why I went for the business side of the market partly because we > were already a business to business provider but the margins on business > broadband are so much better than residential. > > > > Regards Chad. > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > [image: image001.jpg] > > > > *From:* Nathan Brookfield > *Sent:* Saturday, 3 December 2022 6:53 PM > *To:* Chad Kelly > *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the > making > > > > It?s all about volume. > > *Nathan Brookfield * > General Manager > > *p*: 1300 592 330 | *m*: 0412 266 008 | *w*: https://Iperium.com.au > > > Level 7, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000 > > *Your Connectivity Team* > > > DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This > electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, > contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and > otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual > property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the > information contained in this document, by any person other than the > addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, > please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any > computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by > reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are > solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of > Iperium. > > WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient > should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. > Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted > by this email. > > > On 3 Dec 2022, at 13:02, Chad Kelly wrote: > > ? > > Hi > > Just to clarify it wasn?t so much the plans pricing that was concerning > me, but more the lack of margin. > > $3 per customer isn?t a lot for things like support and monitoring etc, as > I understand it the lower NBN plans you should be making around $7 to $10 > per customer and the higher ones $20 plus. > > End of the day its up to each provider to make their own decisions on > margins etc I think it will be interesting to see how they go anyway. > > Regards Chad. > > > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > > > *From:* Nathan Brookfield > *Sent:* Friday, 2 December 2022 11:49 PM > *To:* Chad Kelly > *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the > making > > > > Their retail prices are almost identical to ours, I think they?re pretty > reasonable especially if they?re an RSP. > > > > > > *NBN * > > *iperium.com.au * > > > > > > *Nathan Brookfield * > > > > DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This > electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, > contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and > otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual > property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the > information contained in this document, by any person other than the > addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, > please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any > computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by > reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are > solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of > Iperium. > > WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient > should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. > Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted > by this email. > > > On 2 Dec 2022, at 23:15, Chad Kelly wrote: > > ? > > Hi All . > > Came across this new provider on Whingepool (whirlpool) while doing some > casual browsing www.zoombroadband.com.au . > > Pricing looks very much unsustainable and the business model horrifies me. > > Plus this post on Ozbargain > https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739835?page=4#comment > > Look at page 5. > > Now I know the margins on NBN aren?t fantastic but $3 I wouldn?t even > waste time with. > > I mean I don?t want to discourage new players from entering the market and > giving it a crack but I think you at least need to be able to walk before > you can run. > > Also you need to comply with the TIO requirements and the Comms alliance > for ISPs. As in the codes of conduct. > > Regards Chad. > > > > > > > > > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 97720 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mitchkelly24 at gmail.com Thu Jan 5 12:53:56 2023 From: mitchkelly24 at gmail.com (Mitch Kelly) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 09:53:56 +0800 Subject: [AusNOG] Pentanet contact Message-ID: Hi. Can someone please contact me as a matter of urgency from pentanet installations/manager. Mitch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spoofer-info at caida.org Mon Jan 9 05:00:15 2023 From: spoofer-info at caida.org (CAIDA Spoofer Project) Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2023 10:00:15 -0800 Subject: [AusNOG] Spoofer Report for AusNOG for Dec 2022 Message-ID: <1673200815.038276.28249.nullmailer@caida.org> In response to feedback from operational security communities, CAIDA's source address validation measurement project (https://spoofer.caida.org) is automatically generating monthly reports of ASes originating prefixes in BGP for systems from which we received packets with a spoofed source address. We are publishing these reports to network and security operations lists in order to ensure this information reaches operational contacts in these ASes. This report summarises tests conducted within aus. Inferred improvements during Dec 2022: none inferred Source Address Validation issues inferred during Dec 2022: ASN Name First-Spoofed Last-Spoofed 38195 SUPERLOOP 2018-02-02 2022-12-01 4826 VOCUS-BACKBONE 2018-03-07 2022-12-29 132458 PENTANET 2022-12-08 2022-12-29 Further information for these tests where we received spoofed packets is available at: https://spoofer.caida.org/recent_tests.php?country_include=aus&no_block=1 Please send any feedback or suggestions to spoofer-info at caida.org From david at hughes.id Mon Jan 9 11:56:21 2023 From: david at hughes.id (david at hughes.id) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 10:56:21 +1000 Subject: [AusNOG] ** STOP THREAD ** AGAIN ** Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making In-Reply-To: References: <9BEF1137-FF6E-42E4-B834-05DA5CA31AC8@bradleyamm.com> Message-ID: <1B3F3299-3879-4F75-A318-7A3501346D3A@hughes.id> Thanks for the assist Mark. I've been trying to prolong my break but am now back on deck. There is nothing remotely operational about this thread so please do not continue it. David ... > On 4 Jan 2023, at 2:47 am, Mark Smith wrote: > > David asked for discussion about this ISP to be dropped here something like a month ago. > > Please reread the charter to refresh your memory on what the purpose of this mailing list is. > > https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter > > There's a Rep forum on Whirlpool where this ISP can be discussed, as Wild IT and others were. > > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 22:39 Chad Kelly, > wrote: > I must plug Interactive.com.au at this point, pretty much guaranteed to fix any out of warranty hardware and have parts. Shows their lack of industry knowledge that the guys at Zoom BB didn?t know they existed, they are one of the largest IT firms in the country now a days. > > Regards Chad. > > > > > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > From: Bradley Amm > > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 10:16 PM > To: Chad Kelly > > Cc: Nathan Brookfield >; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making > > > > They probably can?t get another Microtik from eBay fast enough. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On 3 Jan 2023, at 6:30 pm, Chad Kelly > wrote: > > ? > > Hi Yeah noticed that. > > The website still looks like it?s taking money though. > > Unless they just haven?t updated the homepage didn?t pay too much attention. > > One thing I did point out to them is that November is a rather odd time for setting up an ISP, right before everyone goes on imbargo period. > > > > > > Regards Chad. > > > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > From: Bradley Amm > > Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 9:05 PM > To: Chad Kelly > > Cc: Nathan Brookfield >; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making > > > > Well they are dead > > > > https://imgur.com/a/jmO3Mkk > > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 4:22 PM Chad Kelly > wrote: > > Yeah I get that. > > Bit concerned they?ve only invested $300000 which is nothing for an ISP. You need $10000000 at least just to get something half decent in terms of network. > > You need a few more million for marketing on top of that. > > This is why it works for the likes of Australia post as they already have a captive audience to sell to and they?ve gone layer 3 so not much investment required layer 2 you need millions to do it properly. > > > > This is why I went for the business side of the market partly because we were already a business to business provider but the margins on business broadband are so much better than residential. > > > > Regards Chad. > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > From: Nathan Brookfield > > Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2022 6:53 PM > To: Chad Kelly > > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making > > > > It?s all about volume. > > Nathan Brookfield > General Manager > > p: 1300 592 330 | m: 0412 266 008 | w: https://Iperium.com.au > > Level 7, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000 > > Your Connectivity Team > > > DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium. > > WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > > On 3 Dec 2022, at 13:02, Chad Kelly > wrote: > > ? > > Hi > > Just to clarify it wasn?t so much the plans pricing that was concerning me, but more the lack of margin. > > $3 per customer isn?t a lot for things like support and monitoring etc, as I understand it the lower NBN plans you should be making around $7 to $10 per customer and the higher ones $20 plus. > > End of the day its up to each provider to make their own decisions on margins etc I think it will be interesting to see how they go anyway. > > Regards Chad. > > > > Chad Kelly > > Manager > > CPK Web Services > > Phone 03 52730246 > > Web https://www.cpkws.com.au > > > > > From: Nathan Brookfield > > Sent: Friday, 2 December 2022 11:49 PM > To: Chad Kelly > > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making > > > > Their retail prices are almost identical to ours, I think they?re pretty reasonable especially if they?re an RSP. > > > > > > NBN > iperium.com.au > > > > > Nathan Brookfield > > > > > DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium. > > WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > > On 2 Dec 2022, at 23:15, Chad Kelly > wrote: > > ? > > Hi All . > > Came across this new provider on Whingepool (whirlpool) while doing some casual browsing www.zoombroadband.com.au . > > Pricing looks very much unsustainable and the business model horrifies me. > > Plus this post on Ozbargain https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739835?page=4#comment > Look at page 5. > > Now I know the margins on NBN aren?t fantastic but $3 I wouldn?t even waste time with. > > I mean I don?t want to discourage new players from entering the market and giving it a crack but I think you at least need to be able to walk before you can run. > > Also you need to comply with the TIO requirements and the Comms alliance for ISPs. 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Sadly Ubiquiti don't really care much about their non LTU Customers, And even then their firmware has consistently been buggy. Ubiquiti have been more Business and Money focussed in the last few years, They are releasing more and more products, But totally ignoring their previous hardware, firmware and bugs, We have had severe MTU issues on the hobby network, TO the point that the firmware used it still 16~ months old. Personally, I would avoid Ubiquiti for any self respecting company use. Its too problematic, Too many issues/bugs. We ended up using V-SOL OLT's, (Mining) reasonable price with good reliability, reasonably bug-free (At Least not game breaking) Dont be another Zoom Broadband. 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I have no intent on keeping ubiquity, but I cannot just magically click my fingers and migrate them. I also have no clue who Zoom is and don't care, I only ever worry about my own patch unless I'm asked to care someone else's. Thank you to all who reached out to me late last night, it is what I hoped for, and reminded of the original intent and purpose of this list ?? Cheers, David. On Wed, 18 Jan 2023, 11:44 am Mitch Kelly, wrote: > Hi, > > Whole Ubiquiti is a great option, And for the most part it is, If you are > a Hobbyist. > Sadly Ubiquiti don't really care much about their non LTU Customers, And > even then their firmware has consistently been buggy. > > Ubiquiti have been more Business and Money focussed in the last few years, > They are releasing more and more products, But totally ignoring their > previous hardware, firmware and bugs, We have had severe MTU issues on the > hobby network, TO the point that the firmware used it still 16~ months old. > > Personally, I would avoid Ubiquiti for any self respecting company use. > Its too problematic, Too many issues/bugs. We ended up using V-SOL OLT's, > (Mining) reasonable price with good reliability, reasonably bug-free (At > Least not game breaking) > > Dont be another Zoom Broadband. > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 8:48 PM David Trad > wrote: > >> Hi Noggers, >> >> I'm wondering if there is anyone with experience with the Ubiquity Ufibre >> OLT's on the list, if so I would love to chat and obtain some support. >> >> Also looking for any units either the 4 port or 8 port, either or, as I >> need some backup units until the Calix upgrade XGS-PON ones arrive and the >> ONU's, everything is so delayed at the moment. >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> David Trad >> 0414474751 >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG at ausnog.net >> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This route is not active within AS4826, however TPG believes we are advertising it to them - which we are not, nor have we ever. We are escalating it within TPG now for them to check. Regards, Phil AS4826 > On 26 Jan 2023, at 4:15 pm, Rob Thomas wrote: > > Looks like you've typo'ed a BGP announcement - you're announcing 104.0.0.0/13 into the DFZ, but you SHOULD be announcing 104.40.0.0/13 - This is breaking everyone that isn't doing RPKI. > > AT&T AS7018 have 104.0.0.0/12 with a real ROA. > > --Rob > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The suppliers can't go to Cisco and say send me 10 to keep in stock (they wouldn't when I was selling them) They come pretty quick once ordered (assuming in stock) According to the sheet there is about 150 days lead time for the MX75 From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:19 PM To: ausnog Subject: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 Hi all, Crossing fingers for a friend who is in need of a Meraki MX75 security firewall appliance in Brisbane. If anyone has one (or even two) handy please reach out for urgent payment + beer. Hahaha. Cheers [b] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bevan at slattery.net.au Tue Jan 31 15:38:16 2023 From: bevan at slattery.net.au (Bevan Slattery) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:38:16 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 In-Reply-To: <001801d9352d$7ce9fc50$76bdf4f0$@bradleyamm.com> References: <001801d9352d$7ce9fc50$76bdf4f0$@bradleyamm.com> Message-ID: Yeah someone just showed me the 150 day lead time. Hahahahahahaha. Cray cray. From: brad at bradleyamm.com Date: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 2:35 pm To: 'Bevan Slattery' , 'ausnog' Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 Back when I bought tons of these and sold a few as well these are drop shipped when ordered from Cisco in the USA via UPS Express. The suppliers can?t go to Cisco and say send me 10 to keep in stock (they wouldn?t when I was selling them) They come pretty quick once ordered (assuming in stock) According to the sheet there is about 150 days lead time for the MX75 From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:19 PM To: ausnog Subject: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 Hi all, Crossing fingers for a friend who is in need of a Meraki MX75 security firewall appliance in Brisbane. If anyone has one (or even two) handy please reach out for urgent payment + beer. Hahaha. Cheers [b] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitchkelly24 at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 15:58:06 2023 From: mitchkelly24 at gmail.com (Mitch Kelly) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 12:58:06 +0800 Subject: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 In-Reply-To: References: <001801d9352d$7ce9fc50$76bdf4f0$@bradleyamm.com> Message-ID: You think that's bad. We ordered 25x ie2k and 5k's. That was back in June 2022. ETA is still May 2023. On Tue, 31 Jan 2023, 12:38 pm Bevan Slattery, wrote: > Yeah someone just showed me the 150 day lead time. Hahahahahahaha. Cray > cray. > > > > *From: *brad at bradleyamm.com > *Date: *Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 2:35 pm > *To: *'Bevan Slattery' , 'ausnog' < > ausnog at ausnog.net> > *Subject: *RE: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 > > Back when I bought tons of these and sold a few as well these are drop > shipped when ordered from Cisco in the USA via UPS Express. The suppliers > can?t go to Cisco and say send me 10 to keep in stock (they wouldn?t when I > was selling them) > > They come pretty quick once ordered (assuming in stock) According to the > sheet there is about 150 days lead time for the MX75 > > > > > > > > > > *From:* AusNOG *On Behalf Of *Bevan Slattery > *Sent:* Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:19 PM > *To:* ausnog > *Subject:* [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 > > > > Hi all, > > > > Crossing fingers for a friend who is in need of a Meraki MX75 security > firewall appliance in Brisbane. If anyone has one (or even two) handy > please reach out for urgent payment + beer. Hahaha. > > > > Cheers > > > > [b] > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bill.Walker2 at stantec.com Tue Jan 31 16:06:13 2023 From: Bill.Walker2 at stantec.com (Walker, Bill (Christchurch)) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 05:06:13 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 In-Reply-To: References: <001801d9352d$7ce9fc50$76bdf4f0$@bradleyamm.com> Message-ID: Juniper quoted us 14 months for EX3400?s mid last year. Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: AusNOG on behalf of Mitch Kelly Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2023 5:58:06 PM To: Bevan Slattery Cc: ausnog Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 You think that's bad. We ordered 25x ie2k and 5k's. That was back in June 2022. ETA is still May 2023. On Tue, 31 Jan 2023, 12:38 pm Bevan Slattery, > wrote: Yeah someone just showed me the 150 day lead time. Hahahahahahaha. Cray cray. From: brad at bradleyamm.com > Date: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 2:35 pm To: 'Bevan Slattery' >, 'ausnog' > Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 Back when I bought tons of these and sold a few as well these are drop shipped when ordered from Cisco in the USA via UPS Express. The suppliers can?t go to Cisco and say send me 10 to keep in stock (they wouldn?t when I was selling them) They come pretty quick once ordered (assuming in stock) According to the sheet there is about 150 days lead time for the MX75 From: AusNOG > On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:19 PM To: ausnog > Subject: [AusNOG] Meraki MX75 Hi all, Crossing fingers for a friend who is in need of a Meraki MX75 security firewall appliance in Brisbane. If anyone has one (or even two) handy please reach out for urgent payment + beer. Hahaha. 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URL: From chad at cpkws.com.au Tue Jan 31 21:18:53 2023 From: chad at cpkws.com.au (Chad Kelly) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 10:18:53 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Ubiquity OLT Message-ID: From: David Trad > To: Mitch Kelly > Cc: AusNOG Mailing List > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Ubiquity OLT Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks for the feedback Mitch, though you might have missed the part in my initial comment that I am moving to Calix, the request for some assistance was just that a request, whilst I sort out a move, plan it and strategies it. Doing a wholesale change over on a 4+ year old network that I have inherited is not just expensive but hugeyly time consuming and requires serious man power, and cooperative customers. Purchasing extra hardware is an exercise in survivability as the former individual who looked after the network had neither hot or cold spares ever in its life time, so if I had an outage my customers would be off-line for weeks if not months... I was avoiding having to air out my situation, but I'm a humble person, and most will understand the situation in. I have no intent on keeping ubiquity, but I cannot just magically click my fingers and migrate them. I also have no clue who Zoom is and don't care, I only ever worry about my own patch unless I'm asked to care someone else's. Thank you to all who reached out to me late last night, it is what I hoped for, and reminded of the original intent and purpose of this list ?? Cheers, David. That all sounds fare enough David, you can't just go changing network configurations without any notice. Ubiquity equipment is ok depending on usage I've got customers using it, but you should hunt down spare equipment I think that was the main point as you really shouldn't have services down for more then a couple of hours. Though for the DataCentre side of things Cisco and the more enterprise grade brands are the way to go. But it sounds like your on top of it all anyway. 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