From chris.p.barnes at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 13:54:08 2022
From: chris.p.barnes at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 13:54:08 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
Message-ID: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on
services in Hobart?

I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the
same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working
from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but
their 4G/5G services are ok.

-- 
Kind Regards,

Christopher Barnes

e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
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From justinjoncourtney at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 14:00:38 2022
From: justinjoncourtney at gmail.com (Justin Courtney)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:00:38 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOfxwrri5O6cw9Q9+095NDOj+fvbAoiH3_dH7-q_D746XqMi+g@mail.gmail.com>

All of our sites are down statewide (Telstra) and my mobile (Boost) are
down.  TV is down as well.

I can make phone calls and use very slow 4G.  Our 4G backup is as good as
useless currently.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, 13:55 Chris Barnes, <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on
> services in Hobart?
>
> I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At
> the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff
> working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are
> down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
>
> Christopher Barnes
>
> e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From brad at bradleyamm.com  Tue Mar  1 14:03:58 2022
From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 03:03:58 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAOfxwrri5O6cw9Q9+095NDOj+fvbAoiH3_dH7-q_D746XqMi+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>,
 <CAOfxwrri5O6cw9Q9+095NDOj+fvbAoiH3_dH7-q_D746XqMi+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1646103749261.48999@bradleyamm.com>

Launtel site


2 of the 3 fibre optic cables coming into Tasmania are no longer operational

wide spread outage across al internet providers

no ETA on resolution of services

please check status.launtel.net.au?


________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Justin Courtney <justinjoncourtney at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 11:00 AM
To: Chris Barnes
Cc: Ausnog
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?

All of our sites are down statewide (Telstra) and my mobile (Boost) are down.  TV is down as well.

I can make phone calls and use very slow 4G.  Our 4G backup is as good as useless currently.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, 13:55 Chris Barnes, <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com<mailto:chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on services in Hobart?

I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.

--
Kind Regards,

Christopher Barnes

e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com<mailto:chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
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From ben.ricardo at acs.com.au  Tue Mar  1 14:04:09 2022
From: ben.ricardo at acs.com.au (Benjamin Ricardo)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 03:04:09 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAOfxwrri5O6cw9Q9+095NDOj+fvbAoiH3_dH7-q_D746XqMi+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOfxwrri5O6cw9Q9+095NDOj+fvbAoiH3_dH7-q_D746XqMi+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <973FBD54AAA9674B9D262D36779FAAC601B813774E@MAIN.acs.intra>

We lost comms to multiple sites in the greater Hobart area almost exactly 1hr ago.
Perhaps there?s new Covid border controls in place ?

Ben



From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Justin Courtney
Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2022 2:01 PM
To: Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
Cc: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?

All of our sites are down statewide (Telstra) and my mobile (Boost) are down.  TV is down as well.

I can make phone calls and use very slow 4G.  Our 4G backup is as good as useless currently.

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022, 13:55 Chris Barnes, <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com<mailto:chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on services in Hobart?

I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.

--
Kind Regards,

Christopher Barnes

e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com<mailto:chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
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From dazzagibbs at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 14:06:42 2022
From: dazzagibbs at gmail.com (DaZZa)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:06:42 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>

Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated
MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss
(50% plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.

Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.

DaZZa

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on services in Hobart?
>
> I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
>
> Christopher Barnes
>
> e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog



-- 
veg?e?tar?i?an:
Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or ride

From jrandombob at darkglade.com  Tue Mar  1 14:24:00 2022
From: jrandombob at darkglade.com (Jrandombob)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:24:00 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGhfpxo--WDcEv6+fdBL8hJhwjxaRC6dXGFPh+V7Tq8WgSatuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, seems like somebody dragged an anchor through a submarine cable.

Both NBN POIs are down Telstra services are also extremely spotty.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:07 PM DaZZa <dazzagibbs at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated
> MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss
> (50% plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.
>
> Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.
>
> DaZZa
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on services in Hobart?
> >
> > I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
> >
> > --
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Christopher Barnes
> >
> > e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
>
>
> --
> veg?e?tar?i?an:
> Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or ride
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

From dazzagibbs at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 14:29:31 2022
From: dazzagibbs at gmail.com (DaZZa)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:29:31 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAGhfpxo--WDcEv6+fdBL8hJhwjxaRC6dXGFPh+V7Tq8WgSatuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGhfpxo--WDcEv6+fdBL8hJhwjxaRC6dXGFPh+V7Tq8WgSatuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMpV8Moibtsfka97EU6VBJwFKpOqcc=6LrDGjqVPU665WK4Sbg@mail.gmail.com>

Ouch! That's going to be a world of pain for Tasmania for a fair bit
of time - cable damage historically takes several weeks to get
repaired!

DaZZa

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 14:24, Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, seems like somebody dragged an anchor through a submarine cable.
>
> Both NBN POIs are down Telstra services are also extremely spotty.
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:07 PM DaZZa <dazzagibbs at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated
> > MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss
> > (50% plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.
> >
> > Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.
> >
> > DaZZa
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on services in Hobart?
> > >
> > > I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Christopher Barnes
> > >
> > > e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AusNOG mailing list
> > > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > veg?e?tar?i?an:
> > Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or ride
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog



-- 
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Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or ride

From chris.p.barnes at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 14:30:59 2022
From: chris.p.barnes at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:30:59 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAGhfpxo--WDcEv6+fdBL8hJhwjxaRC6dXGFPh+V7Tq8WgSatuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGhfpxo--WDcEv6+fdBL8hJhwjxaRC6dXGFPh+V7Tq8WgSatuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACTt9vkazHWiGYV=0YsYECVqB4ZFOWi0yXvvBgfsANx28UN_zQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to everyone who replied.


On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 14:24, Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com> wrote:

> Yeah, seems like somebody dragged an anchor through a submarine cable.
>
> Both NBN POIs are down Telstra services are also extremely spotty.
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:07 PM DaZZa <dazzagibbs at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated
> > MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss
> > (50% plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.
> >
> > Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.
> >
> > DaZZa
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on
> services in Hobart?
> > >
> > > I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline.
> At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff
> working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are
> down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Christopher Barnes
> > >
> > > e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AusNOG mailing list
> > > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > veg?e?tar?i?an:
> > Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or ride
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>


-- 
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Christopher Barnes

e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
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From brad at bradleyamm.com  Tue Mar  1 15:02:18 2022
From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 04:02:18 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e8607f0bd3bf4a9fb221dd62d7711328@IHM-CAM-E13M02.prdhosting.local>

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/widespread-telecommunications-and-internet-outage-in-tasmania/100871822

-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of DaZZa
Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2022 11:07 AM
To: Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
Cc: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?

Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss (50% plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.

Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.

DaZZa

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on services in Hobart?
>
> I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
>
> --
> Kind Regards,
>
> Christopher Barnes
>
> e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog



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From xrobau at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 15:08:04 2022
From: xrobau at gmail.com (Rob Thomas)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:08:04 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] APNIC Election - It's time to vote!
Message-ID: <CAC5zRjO_Wfdwqm3Phfd_rh0GT7B8eTR2ZHZ9nB8z9nj9vZeCXA@mail.gmail.com>

For those that don't know, I'm running (again) for the APNIC EC. If
you haven't voted so far, now would be a great time to go to
https://my.apnic.net/voting and click that little checkbox next to my
name!

If you want some more info on me, and what SPECIFICALLY I'm annoyed
about, feel free to hit me up off list, or on IM on pretty much every
platform (I'm xrobau everywhere, but best results would be Derpbook
Messenger and Twatter, or a pull request on github)

So go click that voting link, do your MFA, and I'll be extremely grateful.

Thanks, and apologies for the noise.

--Rob
+61-402-077-155

From jrandombob at darkglade.com  Tue Mar  1 15:36:17 2022
From: jrandombob at darkglade.com (Jrandombob)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 15:36:17 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <e8607f0bd3bf4a9fb221dd62d7711328@IHM-CAM-E13M02.prdhosting.local>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
 <e8607f0bd3bf4a9fb221dd62d7711328@IHM-CAM-E13M02.prdhosting.local>
Message-ID: <CAGhfpxqfANVAPyNmVtMZ_QE9vBaBY9JDp43kojmq7g6WxqSCyw@mail.gmail.com>

Ahh, quality network planning right there, let's land two submarine
cables 10's of km apart and then have them at least partially follow
the same path on land...

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com> wrote:
>
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/widespread-telecommunications-and-internet-outage-in-tasmania/100871822
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of DaZZa
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2022 11:07 AM
> To: Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
> Cc: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
>
> Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss (50% plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.
>
> Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.
>
> DaZZa
>
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on services in Hobart?
> >
> > I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
> >
> > --
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Christopher Barnes
> >
> > e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
>
>
> --
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From russell3901 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 15:41:55 2022
From: russell3901 at gmail.com (Russell Langton)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 15:41:55 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAGhfpxqfANVAPyNmVtMZ_QE9vBaBY9JDp43kojmq7g6WxqSCyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
 <e8607f0bd3bf4a9fb221dd62d7711328@IHM-CAM-E13M02.prdhosting.local>
 <CAGhfpxqfANVAPyNmVtMZ_QE9vBaBY9JDp43kojmq7g6WxqSCyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGq70SKbABmjRLDZf97decmuGP0mx-h11Do=0=QtbNFOn5Me2A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
2 separate faults in 2 locations (one in TAS, one in VIC) on 2 diverse
paths....


On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:36 PM Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com> wrote:

> Ahh, quality network planning right there, let's land two submarine
> cables 10's of km apart and then have them at least partially follow
> the same path on land...
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/widespread-telecommunications-and-internet-outage-in-tasmania/100871822
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of DaZZa
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2022 11:07 AM
> > To: Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
> >
> > Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated MPLS
> endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss (50% plus)
> and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.
> >
> > Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.
> >
> > DaZZa
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on
> services in Hobart?
> > >
> > > I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline.
> At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff
> working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are
> down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Christopher Barnes
> > >
> > > e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AusNOG mailing list
> > > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > veg?e?tar?i?an:
> > Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or ride
> _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From jrandombob at darkglade.com  Tue Mar  1 15:59:10 2022
From: jrandombob at darkglade.com (Jrandombob)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 15:59:10 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAGq70SKbABmjRLDZf97decmuGP0mx-h11Do=0=QtbNFOn5Me2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
 <e8607f0bd3bf4a9fb221dd62d7711328@IHM-CAM-E13M02.prdhosting.local>
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Ah, I see ABC have updated the article now (originally suggested both
cuts were in Frankston), glad to hear that they are diverse paths on
land. Bit of an unfortunate coincidence that we had two Fibre Seeking
Backhoes on either side of Bass Strait at the same time.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:42 PM Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> 2 separate faults in 2 locations (one in TAS, one in VIC) on 2 diverse paths....
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:36 PM Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ahh, quality network planning right there, let's land two submarine
>> cables 10's of km apart and then have them at least partially follow
>> the same path on land...
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/widespread-telecommunications-and-internet-outage-in-tasmania/100871822
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of DaZZa
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2022 11:07 AM
>> > To: Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
>> >
>> > Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss (50% plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.
>> >
>> > Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.
>> >
>> > DaZZa
>> >
>> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on services in Hobart?
>> > >
>> > > I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Kind Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Christopher Barnes
>> > >
>> > > e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > AusNOG mailing list
>> > > AusNOG at ausnog.net
>> > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > veg?e?tar?i?an:
>> > Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or ride _______________________________________________
>> > AusNOG mailing list
>> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
>> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > AusNOG mailing list
>> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
>> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

From russell3901 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 16:05:11 2022
From: russell3901 at gmail.com (Russell Langton)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 16:05:11 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAGhfpxoup97b4=aGKfQq5VzzLef2_A2nQ4AH6mOZP=CcnLtiMg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <e8607f0bd3bf4a9fb221dd62d7711328@IHM-CAM-E13M02.prdhosting.local>
 <CAGhfpxqfANVAPyNmVtMZ_QE9vBaBY9JDp43kojmq7g6WxqSCyw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAGq70SK66ypGg_Y3iPQGSRrObiJp0CK4qu241bKuofhWPnPObg@mail.gmail.com>

You could say that quality network planning makes dual events like this
very rare :)

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:59 PM Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com> wrote:

> Ah, I see ABC have updated the article now (originally suggested both
> cuts were in Frankston), glad to hear that they are diverse paths on
> land. Bit of an unfortunate coincidence that we had two Fibre Seeking
> Backhoes on either side of Bass Strait at the same time.
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:42 PM Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > 2 separate faults in 2 locations (one in TAS, one in VIC) on 2 diverse
> paths....
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:36 PM Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ahh, quality network planning right there, let's land two submarine
> >> cables 10's of km apart and then have them at least partially follow
> >> the same path on land...
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/widespread-telecommunications-and-internet-outage-in-tasmania/100871822
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of DaZZa
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2022 11:07 AM
> >> > To: Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
> >> > Cc: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> >> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
> >> >
> >> > Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated
> MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss (50%
> plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.
> >> >
> >> > Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.
> >> >
> >> > DaZZa
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on
> services in Hobart?
> >> > >
> >> > > I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne
> offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And
> staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet
> services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Kind Regards,
> >> > >
> >> > > Christopher Barnes
> >> > >
> >> > > e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > AusNOG mailing list
> >> > > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> >> > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > veg?e?tar?i?an:
> >> > Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or
> ride _______________________________________________
> >> > AusNOG mailing list
> >> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> >> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > AusNOG mailing list
> >> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> >> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> AusNOG mailing list
> >> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> >> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From pgroom at gmail.com  Tue Mar  1 16:07:31 2022
From: pgroom at gmail.com (Phill Groom)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 16:07:31 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAGq70SK66ypGg_Y3iPQGSRrObiJp0CK4qu241bKuofhWPnPObg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
 <e8607f0bd3bf4a9fb221dd62d7711328@IHM-CAM-E13M02.prdhosting.local>
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 <CAGq70SKbABmjRLDZf97decmuGP0mx-h11Do=0=QtbNFOn5Me2A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CANVAu-oV3OjbHWZfVL2wSOAwdkFtfiV=mHrXjJnufYrvX6UFfQ@mail.gmail.com>

The earth is a single point of failure...

On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 16:05, Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You could say that quality network planning makes dual events like this
> very rare :)
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:59 PM Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ah, I see ABC have updated the article now (originally suggested both
>> cuts were in Frankston), glad to hear that they are diverse paths on
>> land. Bit of an unfortunate coincidence that we had two Fibre Seeking
>> Backhoes on either side of Bass Strait at the same time.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:42 PM Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> > 2 separate faults in 2 locations (one in TAS, one in VIC) on 2 diverse
>> paths....
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:36 PM Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ahh, quality network planning right there, let's land two submarine
>> >> cables 10's of km apart and then have them at least partially follow
>> >> the same path on land...
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/widespread-telecommunications-and-internet-outage-in-tasmania/100871822
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of DaZZa
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2022 11:07 AM
>> >> > To: Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
>> >> > Cc: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
>> >> >
>> >> > Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated
>> MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss (50%
>> plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.
>> >> >
>> >> > Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.
>> >> >
>> >> > DaZZa
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage
>> on services in Hobart?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne
>> offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And
>> staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet
>> services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Kind Regards,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Christopher Barnes
>> >> > >
>> >> > > e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > AusNOG mailing list
>> >> > > AusNOG at ausnog.net
>> >> > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > veg?e?tar?i?an:
>> >> > Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or
>> ride _______________________________________________
>> >> > AusNOG mailing list
>> >> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
>> >> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > AusNOG mailing list
>> >> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
>> >> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> AusNOG mailing list
>> >> AusNOG at ausnog.net
>> >> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From brad at bradleyamm.com  Tue Mar  1 16:06:42 2022
From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 05:06:42 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
In-Reply-To: <CAGq70SK66ypGg_Y3iPQGSRrObiJp0CK4qu241bKuofhWPnPObg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACTt9v=cmNN5fuqdMAAXTu_6ojn60aSrcdO0pMzSj1WHWNWeJg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMpV8Mq7gD85+B-YDkEV+XCX0by916NXeMmfT_a=GryjF=+cbw@mail.gmail.com>
 <e8607f0bd3bf4a9fb221dd62d7711328@IHM-CAM-E13M02.prdhosting.local>
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 <CAGq70SKbABmjRLDZf97decmuGP0mx-h11Do=0=QtbNFOn5Me2A@mail.gmail.com>
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________________________________
From: Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 1:05:11 PM
To: Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com>
Cc: Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com>; Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?

You could say that quality network planning makes dual events like this very rare :)

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:59 PM Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com<mailto:jrandombob at darkglade.com>> wrote:
Ah, I see ABC have updated the article now (originally suggested both
cuts were in Frankston), glad to hear that they are diverse paths on
land. Bit of an unfortunate coincidence that we had two Fibre Seeking
Backhoes on either side of Bass Strait at the same time.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:42 PM Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com<mailto:russell3901 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> 2 separate faults in 2 locations (one in TAS, one in VIC) on 2 diverse paths....
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:36 PM Jrandombob <jrandombob at darkglade.com<mailto:jrandombob at darkglade.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Ahh, quality network planning right there, let's land two submarine
>> cables 10's of km apart and then have them at least partially follow
>> the same path on land...
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:02 PM Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com<mailto:brad at bradleyamm.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-01/widespread-telecommunications-and-internet-outage-in-tasmania/100871822
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of DaZZa
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2022 11:07 AM
>> > To: Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com<mailto:chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>>
>> > Cc: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
>> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Widespread outage Hobart?
>> >
>> > Only two additional data points, but I've got a couple of dedicated MPLS endpoints in tassie which are experiencing serious packet loss (50% plus) and delay (at least double normal RTT's) at the moment.
>> >
>> > Something is rotten in the state of Apples, I suspect.
>> >
>> > DaZZa
>> >
>> > On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 at 13:55, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com<mailto:chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Sorry for the vague title. Anyone else experiencing total outage on services in Hobart?
>> > >
>> > > I've got an Optus data service between Hobart and Melbourne offline. At the same time the backup Telstra NBN service went offline. And staff working from home in Hobart are reporting their home internet services are down but their 4G/5G services are ok.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Kind Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Christopher Barnes
>> > >
>> > > e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com<mailto:chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > AusNOG mailing list
>> > > AusNOG at ausnog.net<mailto:AusNOG at ausnog.net>
>> > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > veg?e?tar?i?an:
>> > Ancient tribal slang for the village idiot who can't hunt, fish or ride _______________________________________________
>> > AusNOG mailing list
>> > AusNOG at ausnog.net<mailto:AusNOG at ausnog.net>
>> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > AusNOG mailing list
>> > AusNOG at ausnog.net<mailto:AusNOG at ausnog.net>
>> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at ausnog.net<mailto:AusNOG at ausnog.net>
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au  Tue Mar  1 18:25:47 2022
From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 07:25:47 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] OOB connectivity in Darwin
Message-ID: <8039cba5d7174d9b9201aabf907b4875@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>

Hi All,

I'm looking for OOB connectivity in Darwin.

We don't need a lot of bandwidth, just reliable connectivity for accessing equipment.

Many thanks


Darren.
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From kijush.maharjan at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 18:03:47 2022
From: kijush.maharjan at gmail.com (kijush.maharjan at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 12:48:47 +0545
Subject: [AusNOG] DHCPv6
Message-ID: <E483D897-E8EE-4AC0-BAAE-C7B1A31A8395@gmail.com>

Hello all,

In DHCPv6, CPE is frequently requesting for option 24 - Domain search list but BNG is not configured for this option. 

Is it mandatory for DHCPv6 to have Option24 enabled in CPEs? 

Do anyone have experience on configuring option24 in juniper?


Regards,
Kijush



From craig at askings.com.au  Wed Mar  2 20:15:22 2022
From: craig at askings.com.au (Craig Askings)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 19:15:22 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] DHCPv6
In-Reply-To: <E483D897-E8EE-4AC0-BAAE-C7B1A31A8395@gmail.com>
References: <E483D897-E8EE-4AC0-BAAE-C7B1A31A8395@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <77802F0E-1E91-48F1-9854-9D5E3D6BF2C7@askings.com.au>

Are you using the Juniper BNG as a DHCPv6 server or a DHCPv6 relay?

> On 2 Mar 2022, at 5:04 pm, kijush.maharjan at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?Hello all,
> 
> In DHCPv6, CPE is frequently requesting for option 24 - Domain search list but BNG is not configured for this option. 
> 
> Is it mandatory for DHCPv6 to have Option24 enabled in CPEs? 
> 
> Do anyone have experience on configuring option24 in juniper?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Kijush
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog


From markzzzsmith at gmail.com  Wed Mar  2 21:08:58 2022
From: markzzzsmith at gmail.com (Mark Smith)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 21:08:58 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] DHCPv6
In-Reply-To: <E483D897-E8EE-4AC0-BAAE-C7B1A31A8395@gmail.com>
References: <E483D897-E8EE-4AC0-BAAE-C7B1A31A8395@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO42Z2yCp63sXqanvUWxNJgk_HvbMpaqF7XsWgwRuz_AGg7uBQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2 Mar 2022, 18:04 , <kijush.maharjan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> In DHCPv6, CPE is frequently requesting for option 24 - Domain search list
> but BNG is not configured for this option.
>
> Is it mandatory for DHCPv6 to have Option24 enabled in CPEs?


CPEs can ask for it, if you don't supply it that should be okay.

DNS search lists exist so end-users can do something like type "mail", the
search domain is appended, to end up with mail.example.com.

For an ISP that doesn't really work, it's better to reject it as an invalid
domain name, since if a customer submits "mail" by itself, they probably
don't mean "mail.<ispdomain>.com.au."

You can supply "." if you want to provide an option answer in the interests
of pedantry and best end-user experience ;-)

Regards,
Mark.



>
> Do anyone have experience on configuring option24 in juniper?
>
>
> Regards,
> Kijush
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From ausnog at outlook.com  Thu Mar  3 21:57:13 2022
From: ausnog at outlook.com (Steel Bite Pro)
Date: 3 Mar 2022 02:57:13 -0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Tooth And Gum problems? You're Lacking THIS Essential
	Vitamin!
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From kijush.maharjan at gmail.com  Thu Mar  3 22:41:24 2022
From: kijush.maharjan at gmail.com (kijush.maharjan at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 17:26:24 +0545
Subject: [AusNOG] DHCPv6
In-Reply-To: <77802F0E-1E91-48F1-9854-9D5E3D6BF2C7@askings.com.au>
References: <E483D897-E8EE-4AC0-BAAE-C7B1A31A8395@gmail.com>
 <77802F0E-1E91-48F1-9854-9D5E3D6BF2C7@askings.com.au>
Message-ID: <22EDBF5A-FD21-443A-80D1-5A93DD39551D@gmail.com>

Hi Craig,

Yes we are using Juniper BNG as DHCPv6 server. 



> On 2 Mar 2022, at 15:00, Craig Askings <craig at askings.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Are you using the Juniper BNG as a DHCPv6 server or a DHCPv6 relay?
> 
>> On 2 Mar 2022, at 5:04 pm, kijush.maharjan at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello all,
>> 
>> In DHCPv6, CPE is frequently requesting for option 24 - Domain search list but BNG is not configured for this option. 
>> 
>> Is it mandatory for DHCPv6 to have Option24 enabled in CPEs? 
>> 
>> Do anyone have experience on configuring option24 in juniper?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Kijush
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at ausnog.net
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> 


From kijush.maharjan at gmail.com  Thu Mar  3 22:42:37 2022
From: kijush.maharjan at gmail.com (kijush.maharjan at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 17:27:37 +0545
Subject: [AusNOG] DHCPv6
In-Reply-To: <CAO42Z2yCp63sXqanvUWxNJgk_HvbMpaqF7XsWgwRuz_AGg7uBQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E483D897-E8EE-4AC0-BAAE-C7B1A31A8395@gmail.com>
 <CAO42Z2yCp63sXqanvUWxNJgk_HvbMpaqF7XsWgwRuz_AGg7uBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DD88443A-090F-4FB7-B077-1B82A9E72738@gmail.com>

Hi Mark,

Thank you for your reply. 

That means if CPEs don?t get Option24 from BNG, it should stay quiet or it will just ask Option24 in solicit? 

Can there be multiple solicits for a single session?


Regards,
Kijush


> On 2 Mar 2022, at 15:53, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022, 18:04 , <kijush.maharjan at gmail.com <mailto:kijush.maharjan at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> In DHCPv6, CPE is frequently requesting for option 24 - Domain search list but BNG is not configured for this option. 
> 
> Is it mandatory for DHCPv6 to have Option24 enabled in CPEs?
> 
> CPEs can ask for it, if you don't supply it that should be okay.
> 
> DNS search lists exist so end-users can do something like type "mail", the search domain is appended, to end up with mail.example.com <http://mail.example.com/>.
> 
> For an ISP that doesn't really work, it's better to reject it as an invalid domain name, since if a customer submits "mail" by itself, they probably don't mean "mail.<ispdomain>.com.au."
> 
> You can supply "." if you want to provide an option answer in the interests of pedantry and best end-user experience ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> Mark.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Do anyone have experience on configuring option24 in juniper?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Kijush
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From marcus at hostcorp.com.au  Sat Mar  5 23:42:08 2022
From: marcus at hostcorp.com.au (Marcus Emanuel)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 12:42:08 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Comms gear, deep underwater, floods.
Message-ID: <SYCP282MB0302170C6833D06F196648599A069@SYCP282MB0302.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Gentlemen and Ladies,

I?ve been on this list for almost two decades, helped out where i can, and have run a small Australian AS network over this time to date.

We have all seen disasters, and responded accordingly, rerouted traffic, held SLA?s and basically found a way for packets to get from A to B because thats what we do.

Northern rivers NSW and SE QLD (Where I live) copped what is labelled a 1 in 500 year high water event this week.
I dont care so much for the statistics, but the general consensus of this group is that in one way or another? we are all ?preppers?? we build resilient systems to withstand the worst conceivable disasters. We are always looking over our shoulder.

If there has been a thread on this list covering our region already, Apologies for the ?noise? but the following river bound regions have failed in basic comms risk mitigation, directly endangering lives through broken emergency comms networks.

Some are listed below:
NBN PoI region: Grafton (grafton to Qld border)
Cell/Mobile backhaul: wherever Telstra sends its cell routes, from northern rivers NSW presumably on a similar trajectory to NBN, back to sydney for handoff. Optus sent techs to shoot their backhaul via sat, while Telstra seemingly sat on its hands it seems all week to date. People have been isolated and without emergency comms for almost 7days.

I expect to see more of this, but critical infrastructure has no place adjacent to flood prone rivers. I hope we can learn and adapt.

Anyway, the first of what will be a lot of submerged comms gear has made its way to me today from lismore NSW. I have seen dust before,  But i?m seeing red dirt sludge 3mm thick inside equipment that endured 10M deep flooded rivers inside servers, routers, switches?

I am attempting to bathe, ultrasonic clean, dry and repower some of this gear and hoping for the best.

What i am reaching out for here, is potentially some retired comms gear that may help bring hundreds of businesses and networks back online as they rebuild.
 I have a mountain of it in Melbourne, but if anyone in brisbane/goldcoast/sydney is willing to offer some retired gear (switches, servers, routers) to the cause it will be a blessing.

I will find a simple way to register support and ways to get it to us, but this goes out as a 6 day in ?help!? to the Ausnog group.

Thank you in advance. I will update with how to donate and related logistics soon.

Cheers,
Marcus.










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From simon at attwell.net  Mon Mar  7 09:59:21 2022
From: simon at attwell.net (Simon Attwell)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 08:59:21 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra outage in Gladstone, QLD
Message-ID: <CAJvD_sWieZ+HwDvfh-Gh0MgX17kN314Uob2QuEux+b-TvpeeuA@mail.gmail.com>

Morning All,

Telstra is currently experiencing difficulties in Gladstone, QLD, it
started last night around 19:54 (UTC +10) during thunderstorm activity.
Apparently, loss of power to an exchange which is affecting both fixed line
and mobile services.
Telstra says "service affected by loss of power to Gladstone exchange -
refer CONEN1600364" for at least some of our affected fixed line services.
Current ETR is 12 hours.

Regards

- Simon
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From glipschitz at summitinternet.com.au  Mon Mar  7 10:26:03 2022
From: glipschitz at summitinternet.com.au (Greg Lipschitz)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2022 23:26:03 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] NextDC S1 Power Issue
Message-ID: <MEYP282MB25970C76543A6C1482D7389D82079@MEYP282MB2597.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi All,

Seems that NextDC has suffered a power issue on a circuit.
We have seen some equipment showing single PSU fail.

NextDC have confirmed that they are investigating.
They have asked if you can open a ticket with your rack ID if you are experiencing issues.

Hope this saves you chasing your tail if you're wondering what may have happened.

Cheers,
Greg

[cid:1fb4c0fc-e587-4694-ae27-84dc75bb8d7a]

Greg Lipschitz | Founder & CEO | Summit Internet
glipschitz at summitinternet.com.au
summitinternet.com.au
1300 049 749
Unit 2, 31-39 Norcal Road, Nunawading VIC 3131
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From russell3901 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  7 10:44:04 2022
From: russell3901 at gmail.com (Russell Langton)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 10:44:04 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra outage in Gladstone, QLD
In-Reply-To: <CAJvD_sWieZ+HwDvfh-Gh0MgX17kN314Uob2QuEux+b-TvpeeuA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJvD_sWieZ+HwDvfh-Gh0MgX17kN314Uob2QuEux+b-TvpeeuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGq70SKwx8ScnUUnc-UusDPQi2MnKxGHY=-VE2dqHXLoZ0M3gQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Simon,

Power has been restored, please let me know if your services have not been
restored.

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 9:59 AM Simon Attwell <simon at attwell.net> wrote:

> Morning All,
>
> Telstra is currently experiencing difficulties in Gladstone, QLD, it
> started last night around 19:54 (UTC +10) during thunderstorm activity.
> Apparently, loss of power to an exchange which is affecting both fixed
> line and mobile services.
> Telstra says "service affected by loss of power to Gladstone exchange -
> refer CONEN1600364" for at least some of our affected fixed line services.
> Current ETR is 12 hours.
>
> Regards
>
> - Simon
>
> _______________________________________________
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From smalev at hotmail.com  Mon Mar  7 15:14:59 2022
From: smalev at hotmail.com (Serge Malev)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 04:14:59 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Internet services in Ukraine
Message-ID: <PS1PR04MB28377E434D10D87FEA8B018DCF089@PS1PR04MB2837.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Hi. Sorry if this is off topic but I think this is quite relevant and, definitely, important.
There is a group of ICT professionals trying to make sure that Internet based services in Ukraine continue to work.
If you would like to contribute here is an invite link to a WhatsApp group chat. I can help with information of further involvement.

https://chat.whatsapp.com/KuBxilMYQlSGPqx2bvUex1

Thank you.


From tom at snnap.net  Mon Mar  7 21:41:06 2022
From: tom at snnap.net (Tom Storey)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 10:41:06 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
In-Reply-To: <a5605e72b24f4324941a2e7db77fdae0@juneks.com.au>
References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au>
 <CAC5zRjNvXv7=EUxNvOj8kTD-tizUN3wjSj7jN7Ni=cHUQQ0YQQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPrfDLUCFUtD1mp=WM57oaDtd9d_fueHgW8fAyEic3j3CN03qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <39855CB5-C582-42FE-9E0D-FD94A7B01FF9@mmc.com.au>
 <CAKznZ5wsyyLjikKmWYbxzGW85-hEo__60D7yiaX-i=DF3d8sZw@mail.gmail.com>
 <a5605e72b24f4324941a2e7db77fdae0@juneks.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAFDgZgWukBNB02xJ0ov_L7y7WzkaRhvrPDknbEvfWS9qkiUtbA@mail.gmail.com>

Are they really that sophisticated? I mean, if you look at the class of
scammer that someone like Jim Browning manages to crack, they are basically
just working out of spreadsheets.

On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 at 03:21, Michael Junek <michael at juneks.com.au> wrote:

> Automatic machine detection is all based on the timing and cadence of the
> sounds these days. The older answering machine detection was more accurate
> because it?d listen for the click of the tape engaging, whereas digital
> doesn?t have that ?tell-tale? sign.
>
>
>
>    - If you start talking immediately after the call connects, and it
>    continues, that?s more likely to be flagged as an answering machine. You
>    then get thrown for re-dial in a couple of hours.
>    - If it detects a short silence, then a short word or words, followed
>    by silence ? for example ? ?Hello?? ? then it assumes you?re a human and
>    connects you through.
>    - Fax tones are picked up with the answer sound, these are flagged as
>    ?fax machine? and your generally not called again.
>    - Dead silence is marked as silence, and it often assumes there was an
>    issue in connecting ? so it?ll retry you again. Second or third silence
>    calls to the same number are generally no longer tried again.
>
>
>
>    - Often 3 simultaneous calls for every agent are connected and tried ?
>    as the detection takes a few seconds ? it?s based on a predictive algorithm
>    that guesses when the next agent will be available based on the metrics. If
>    it detects that you are a human, and if no agent becomes available, the
>    call is generally disconnects, but you have been marked as a human, and a
>    viable number.
>
>
>
> All these rules are configurable by the dialler admin, so no one can tell
> what the retry interval will be
>
>
>
> If you?re connected, and end up speaking to someone, they can also mark
> the outcome ? answering machine, disconnection, silence etc ? and the
> configured rules will generally take effect.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Jamie Lovick
> *Sent:* Saturday, 26 February 2022 14:07
> *To:* Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au>
> *Cc:* <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
>
>
>
> They seem to listen for common greetings, I typically answer stating my
> name, and it doesn't trigger, it just hangs up after a few seconds.
>
>
>
> Jamie
>
> --
> Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant
> AU <-> +61-4-1479-1681
> US <-> +1-8018-4-52643 (JAMIE)
> Em <-> jalovick at doof.org
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022, 1:58 PM Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au> wrote:
>
> A lot of auto-dialers listen for that and will mark you as a fax machine
> and take your number out of the pool. Also will normally be a short call so
> to Rob?s point it?ll get marked.
>
>
>
> Last one I talked to I just said ?Do you really want to do this?? and they
> hung up immediately on me.
>
>
>
> MMC
>
>
>
> On 24 Feb 2022, at 6:41 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I just answer all calls and say nothing.  Actual legit people can?t take
> the silence and go ?Uhhh hello??  Scammers think they hit voicemail or
> something and hangup at the 4 second mark.
>
>
>
> I answer easy 10 calls a day, 9 of them hang up at 4 seconds.
>
>
>
> ?DG
>
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 7:10 pm, Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can I *please* encourage everyone to answer any suspicious call, wait
> a few seconds, and then hang up. This does a couple of things.
>
> 1. It tells us (the carriers) that it's a suspicious call. We have
> reports on short-length calls, and if one of our clients is making 10k
> calls a day, of which 80% are 2 seconds long, that rings many MANY
> alarm bells.
> 2. Even if it's a carrier who is fast asleep, they're still going to
> charge the scammer for an answered call. No-one's getting free calls,
> no matter who they're dealing with. Answering the call, even for a few
> seconds, means it's costing them money.
>
> If it's NOT a scam call, and it's a real person, they'll call back. If
> it's a scam call, the auto-dialler will mark it as 'scammed', and move
> on to the next person.
>
> Feel free to share this around - this isn't rocket science, but if
> people don't know, they're not going to do it.
>
> tl;dr: Answer the scam call, wait 2 seconds at least, hang up.
>
> --Rob
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about
> > critical warning messages seen from my account recently".
> > Alex had a moderate Indian accent.
> >
> > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa.
> >
> > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up
> > scammed.
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
> --
>
> Damien Gardner Jnr
> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust
> rendrag at rendrag.net -  http://www.rendrag.net/
> --
> We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
>  We ran to the sounds of thunder.
> We danced among the lightning bolts,
>  and tore the world asunder
>
> _______________________________________________
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> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From shaun at kadeo.com.au  Mon Mar  7 22:07:25 2022
From: shaun at kadeo.com.au (Shaun Deans)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 22:07:25 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
In-Reply-To: <CAC5zRjNvXv7=EUxNvOj8kTD-tizUN3wjSj7jN7Ni=cHUQQ0YQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au>
 <CAC5zRjNvXv7=EUxNvOj8kTD-tizUN3wjSj7jN7Ni=cHUQQ0YQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier
networks and in software what ponders me is...

If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why
can't a carrier (source or destination) ?

I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
"free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to
carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR
is faked but logs would show it originating.

But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?

The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network
coming back inbound will help immensely.

As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out
pro-bono on a project.

That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack
the code.

Just 2c

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022, 19:10 Rob Thomas, <xrobau at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can I *please* encourage everyone to answer any suspicious call, wait
> a few seconds, and then hang up. This does a couple of things.
>
> 1. It tells us (the carriers) that it's a suspicious call. We have
> reports on short-length calls, and if one of our clients is making 10k
> calls a day, of which 80% are 2 seconds long, that rings many MANY
> alarm bells.
> 2. Even if it's a carrier who is fast asleep, they're still going to
> charge the scammer for an answered call. No-one's getting free calls,
> no matter who they're dealing with. Answering the call, even for a few
> seconds, means it's costing them money.
>
> If it's NOT a scam call, and it's a real person, they'll call back. If
> it's a scam call, the auto-dialler will mark it as 'scammed', and move
> on to the next person.
>
> Feel free to share this around - this isn't rocket science, but if
> people don't know, they're not going to do it.
>
> tl;dr: Answer the scam call, wait 2 seconds at least, hang up.
>
> --Rob
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about
> > critical warning messages seen from my account recently".
> > Alex had a moderate Indian accent.
> >
> > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa.
> >
> > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up
> > scammed.
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From mmatters at ausnetservers.net.au  Mon Mar  7 23:38:08 2022
From: mmatters at ausnetservers.net.au (Matthew Matters)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 12:38:08 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Disney+ Noc Contact
Message-ID: <dc84c64adfbe4518988c6741c35e30d5@ausnetservers.net.au>

Is there anyone on list that works at Disney+ or has a contact that can reach out to me re Disney+ completely black holing traffic from 103.39.248.0/24 and blaming the customer and wanting them to contact their ISP.


All trace routes i do is once it hits their network the traffic is dropped


Tried to chat to customer service who is more interested in trying to get me to troubleshoot their own issue and then when that does not work they just end the chat, even after i tell them i am an ISP / the network operator.


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From spoofer-info at caida.org  Wed Mar  9 05:00:14 2022
From: spoofer-info at caida.org (CAIDA Spoofer Project)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 10:00:14 -0800
Subject: [AusNOG] Spoofer Report for AusNOG for Feb 2022
Message-ID: <1646762414.369708.3446.nullmailer@caida.org>

In response to feedback from operational security communities,
CAIDA's source address validation measurement project
(https://spoofer.caida.org) is automatically generating monthly
reports of ASes originating prefixes in BGP for systems from which
we received packets with a spoofed source address.
We are publishing these reports to network and security operations
lists in order to ensure this information reaches operational
contacts in these ASes.

This report summarises tests conducted within aus.

Inferred improvements during Feb 2022:
 none inferred

Source Address Validation issues inferred during Feb 2022:
ASN    Name                           First-Spoofed Last-Spoofed
7545   TPG-INTERNET-AP                   2016-11-11   2022-02-23
45671  AS45671-NET-AU                    2020-08-18   2022-02-26
133326 RIN                               2022-02-22   2022-02-28
136994 SOUTHERNPHONE                     2022-02-27   2022-02-27

Further information for these tests where we received spoofed
packets is available at:
https://spoofer.caida.org/recent_tests.php?country_include=aus&no_block=1

Please send any feedback or suggestions to spoofer-info at caida.org

From chad at cpkws.com.au  Wed Mar  9 19:47:45 2022
From: chad at cpkws.com.au (Chad Kelly)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 08:47:45 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
Message-ID: <ME3PR01MB6878073134F9BE48B48E84B1FD0A9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers. 
>From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network level once these changes go through. 
I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out. 
>From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network level.
Unless the number is on a Telstra account. 
This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.

Regards Chad. 

From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au>
To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
Message-ID:
	<CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...

If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?

I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
"free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.

But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?

The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.

As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.

That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.

Just 2c

From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Wed Mar  9 20:08:09 2022
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 09:08:09 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
In-Reply-To: <ME3PR01MB6878073134F9BE48B48E84B1FD0A9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
References: <ME3PR01MB6878073134F9BE48B48E84B1FD0A9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1930D64E-E3D2-4425-AE56-94A2A231ABBF@iperium.com.au>

Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(

It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe it will solve much SPAM calling.

They?ll just avoid Telstra :(

On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:

?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers. 
From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network level once these changes go through. 
I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out. 
From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network level.
Unless the number is on a Telstra account. 
This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.

Regards Chad. 

From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au>
To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
Message-ID:
   <CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...

If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?

I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
"free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.

But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?

The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.

As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.

That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.

Just 2c
_______________________________________________
AusNOG mailing list
AusNOG at ausnog.net
https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

From sean at agius.id.au  Sat Mar 12 10:00:35 2022
From: sean at agius.id.au (Sean Agius (Personal))
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 23:00:35 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
In-Reply-To: <1930D64E-E3D2-4425-AE56-94A2A231ABBF@iperium.com.au>
References: <ME3PR01MB6878073134F9BE48B48E84B1FD0A9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
 <1930D64E-E3D2-4425-AE56-94A2A231ABBF@iperium.com.au>
Message-ID: <ME3P282MB264328F1391B1458E5571D40C50C9@ME3P282MB2643.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be affected by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the Telstra network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling Party B. A lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather than their own business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then Diversion, then Calling Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to the root network(s) that allowed the spam/scam call to take place.

As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.

Regards, Sean.

-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...

Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(

It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe it will solve much SPAM calling.

They?ll just avoid Telstra :(

On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:

?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers. 
From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network level once these changes go through. 
I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out. 
From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network level.
Unless the number is on a Telstra account. 
This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.

Regards Chad. 

From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au>
To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
Message-ID:
   <CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...

If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?

I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
"free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.

But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?

The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.

As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.

That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.

Just 2c
_______________________________________________
AusNOG mailing list
AusNOG at ausnog.net
https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
_______________________________________________
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AusNOG at ausnog.net
https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

From chad at cpkws.com.au  Sat Mar 12 12:32:28 2022
From: chad at cpkws.com.au (Chad Kelly)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 01:32:28 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
In-Reply-To: <ME3P282MB264328F1391B1458E5571D40C50C9@ME3P282MB2643.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ME3PR01MB6878073134F9BE48B48E84B1FD0A9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
 <1930D64E-E3D2-4425-AE56-94A2A231ABBF@iperium.com.au>
 <ME3P282MB264328F1391B1458E5571D40C50C9@ME3P282MB2643.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <ME3PR01MB68780877CC44AEC4130AB17AFD0D9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Yeah it definitely looks like a plan that won't work as it was intended. 
The question then becomes what is the solution to this as it's an ongoing issue. I guess particularly with mobiles it would be making sure that Sim Cards aren't taken over by scammer's using info that they have found on things like hacked facebook accounts to port the numbers out. 
Though a the majority of the scams are done from overseas. 
Regards Chad.

Chad Kelly 
Manager 
CPK Web Services 
Phone 03 52730246
Web https://www.cpkws.com.au


-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au> 
Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2022 10:01 AM
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...

The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be affected by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the Telstra network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling Party B. A lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather than their own business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then Diversion, then Calling Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to the root network(s) that allowed the spam/scam call to take place.

As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.

Regards, Sean.

-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...

Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(

It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe it will solve much SPAM calling.

They?ll just avoid Telstra :(

On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:

?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers. 
From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network level once these changes go through. 
I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out. 
From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network level.
Unless the number is on a Telstra account. 
This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.

Regards Chad. 

From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au>
To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
Message-ID:
   <CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...

If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?

I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
"free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.

But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?

The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.

As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.

That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.

Just 2c
_______________________________________________
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AusNOG at ausnog.net
https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From xrobau at gmail.com  Sat Mar 12 13:04:09 2022
From: xrobau at gmail.com (Rob Thomas)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 12:04:09 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
In-Reply-To: <ME3P282MB264328F1391B1458E5571D40C50C9@ME3P282MB2643.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <ME3PR01MB6878073134F9BE48B48E84B1FD0A9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
 <1930D64E-E3D2-4425-AE56-94A2A231ABBF@iperium.com.au>
 <ME3P282MB264328F1391B1458E5571D40C50C9@ME3P282MB2643.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <CAC5zRjNzy70kYq-fn5itseKcF0_CsUvGWw8xHZAMAhAsp_f5ug@mail.gmail.com>

This is TRIVIALLY solvable by Australia implementing SHAKEN/STIR, which is
a very simple JWT based assertion of Caller.

https://stir.tel has all the info.

In fact, I have a POC Certificate Authority in place for Australia, and
written most of the code for a complete attestation and verification
system, which is, or soon will be, open sourced as the reference code for
the standard.

Sadly, Telstra would have to move into the 2000s and stop requiring
ISDN/SS7 for peering, and move to SIP, like the rest of the world.



On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, 9:00 am Sean Agius (Personal), <sean at agius.id.au>
wrote:

> The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems
> that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be
> affected by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the
> Telstra network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling
> Party B. A lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather
> than their own business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then
> Diversion, then Calling Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to
> the root network(s) that allowed the spam/scam call to take place.
>
> As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this
> gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.
>
> Regards, Sean.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
> To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
>
> Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can
> use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(
>
> It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe
> it will solve much SPAM calling.
>
> They?ll just avoid Telstra :(
>
> On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
>
> ?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will
> prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers.
> From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers
> being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the
> scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the
> internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network
> level once these changes go through.
> I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this
> will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from
> the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out.
> From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make
> outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network
> level.
> Unless the number is on a Telstra account.
> This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.
>
> Regards Chad.
>
> From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au>
> To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
> Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> Message-ID:
>    <CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier
> networks and in software what ponders me is...
>
> If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer
> why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?
>
> I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
> "free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to
> carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR
> is faked but logs would show it originating.
>
> But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?
>
> The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network
> coming back inbound will help immensely.
>
> As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out
> pro-bono on a project.
>
> That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack
> the code.
>
> Just 2c
> _______________________________________________
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> AusNOG at ausnog.net
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From shaun at kadeo.com.au  Sat Mar 12 15:01:00 2022
From: shaun at kadeo.com.au (Shaun Deans)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:01:00 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] =?utf-8?q?=22Telstra=22_scammers_still_at_it=2E=2E=2E?=
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Message-ID: <e8d7ea72-e4cd-3825-68bb-846f1bd052f5@kadeo.com.au>

>>?
>>?This is TRIVIALLY solvable by Australia implementing SHAKEN/STIR, which is a
very simple JWT based assertion of Caller.
>>

** Mic Drop **




---


Won't take long and T will be the only network left with 'their way' anyway.
I've seen it happen in so many other verticals.



With the lack of physical PSTN a 'Phone Number (eg 0412341234)' will be less
required as SIP already has to address built-in with SIP URI's.
They only use numbers before the @ because that's what the 'old world used'.?
An email is a valid SIP URI with the right server side config.


Regular?Sally Smith won't care how their phone / tablet / toaster connects to
their mate as long as they can thing the thing?on their phone / tablet / toaster
and their mate picks up and they cant?chat about going for a burger!


The fact they doesn't get SPAM calls will only be a bonus (and a product
differentiation between T and New Age Inc)


---


Rob:

As previously mentioned I'd love to assist with Dev if you are open to it
Feel free to ping me the repo off list.

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On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 1:05 PM Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is TRIVIALLY solvable by Australia implementing SHAKEN/STIR, which is a
> very simple JWT based assertion of Caller.
> 
> 
> https://stir.tel [https://stir.tel] has all the info.
> 
> 
> In fact, I have a POC Certificate Authority in place for Australia, and
> written most of the code for a complete attestation and verification system,
> which is, or soon will be, open sourced as the reference code for the
> standard.
> 
> 
> Sadly, Telstra would have to move into the 2000s and stop requiring ISDN/SS7
> for peering, and move to SIP, like the rest of the world.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, 9:00 am Sean Agius (Personal), <sean at agius.id.au
> [sean at agius.id.au]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems
> > that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be affected
> > by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the Telstra
> > network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling Party B. A
> > lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather than their own
> > business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then Diversion, then Calling
> > Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to the root network(s) that
> > allowed the spam/scam call to take place.
> > 
> > As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this
> > gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.
> > 
> > Regards, Sean.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net [ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net]> On
> > Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
> > Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
> > To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au [chad at cpkws.com.au]>
> > Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net [ausnog at ausnog.net]
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> > 
> > Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can
> > use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(
> > 
> > It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe it
> > will solve much SPAM calling.
> > 
> > They?ll just avoid Telstra :(
> > 
> > On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au [chad at cpkws.com.au]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > ?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will
> > prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers.
> > From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers
> > being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the
> > scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the
> > internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network
> > level once these changes go through.
> > I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will
> > be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the
> > gaining? ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out.
> > From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make
> > outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network
> > level.
> > Unless the number is on a Telstra account.
> > This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.
> > 
> > Regards Chad.
> > 
> > From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au [shaun at kadeo.com.au]>
> > To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com [xrobau at gmail.com]>
> > Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net [ausnog at lists.ausnog.net]>"
> > <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net [ausnog at lists.ausnog.net]>
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> > Message-ID:
> > ? ?<CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com
> > [CA%2BkVNc811wfDMqREiwoK%2BZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > 
> > Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier
> > networks and in software what ponders me is...
> > 
> > If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why
> > can't a carrier (source or destination) ?
> > 
> > I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
> > "free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to
> > carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is
> > faked but logs would show it originating.
> > 
> > But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?
> > 
> > The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network
> > coming back inbound will help immensely.
> > 
> > As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out
> > pro-bono on a project.
> > 
> > That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack
> > the code.
> > 
> > Just 2c
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From chad at cpkws.com.au  Sat Mar 12 16:05:20 2022
From: chad at cpkws.com.au (Chad Kelly)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 05:05:20 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
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Hi Ahh so its basically DMark or Dkim but for phone numbers.
It actually looks like a good system.
If a few major providers rolled this out in Australia Telstra would eventually be forced to.
While they are at it Telstra could get rid of zones for phone numbers as well it?s Voip so its all internet based now a days anyway so you should be able to move numbers more easily oh and they should let you split numbers from a 100 range as well, like the majority of providers.
Well they might still have some legacy PSTN services in regional areas but most of those have been switched.
Regards Chad.

Chad Kelly
Manager
CPK Web Services
Phone 03 52730246
Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
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From: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2022 1:04 PM
To: Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au>
Cc: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>; AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...

This is TRIVIALLY solvable by Australia implementing SHAKEN/STIR, which is a very simple JWT based assertion of Caller.

https://stir.tel has all the info.

In fact, I have a POC Certificate Authority in place for Australia, and written most of the code for a complete attestation and verification system, which is, or soon will be, open sourced as the reference code for the standard.

Sadly, Telstra would have to move into the 2000s and stop requiring ISDN/SS7 for peering, and move to SIP, like the rest of the world.



On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, 9:00 am Sean Agius (Personal), <sean at agius.id.au<mailto:sean at agius.id.au>> wrote:
The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be affected by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the Telstra network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling Party B. A lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather than their own business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then Diversion, then Calling Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to the root network(s) that allowed the spam/scam call to take place.

As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.

Regards, Sean.

-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au<mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>>
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...

Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(

It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe it will solve much SPAM calling.

They?ll just avoid Telstra :(

On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au<mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>> wrote:

?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers.
From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network level once these changes go through.
I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out.
From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network level.
Unless the number is on a Telstra account.
This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.

Regards Chad.

From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au<mailto:shaun at kadeo.com.au>>
To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com<mailto:xrobau at gmail.com>>
Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...

If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?

I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
"free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.

But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?

The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.

As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.

That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.

Just 2c
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From brad at bradleyamm.com  Sat Mar 12 21:19:09 2022
From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:19:09 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
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Telstra are clinging onto zones and exchange areas. Dad moved across the road. Was with Telstra and phone was provided on the nbn modem via voip. Wouldn?t let him keep the number as he was moving to a different exchange area.

Moved my iiNet connection few years ago. They didn?t care what exchange zone the SIP number was in. Was fine.

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:05:20 PM
To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>; Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...


Hi Ahh so its basically DMark or Dkim but for phone numbers.

It actually looks like a good system.

If a few major providers rolled this out in Australia Telstra would eventually be forced to.

While they are at it Telstra could get rid of zones for phone numbers as well it?s Voip so its all internet based now a days anyway so you should be able to move numbers more easily oh and they should let you split numbers from a 100 range as well, like the majority of providers.

Well they might still have some legacy PSTN services in regional areas but most of those have been switched.

Regards Chad.



Chad Kelly

Manager

CPK Web Services

Phone 03 52730246

Web https://www.cpkws.com.au

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From: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2022 1:04 PM
To: Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au>
Cc: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>; AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...



This is TRIVIALLY solvable by Australia implementing SHAKEN/STIR, which is a very simple JWT based assertion of Caller.



https://stir.tel has all the info.



In fact, I have a POC Certificate Authority in place for Australia, and written most of the code for a complete attestation and verification system, which is, or soon will be, open sourced as the reference code for the standard.



Sadly, Telstra would have to move into the 2000s and stop requiring ISDN/SS7 for peering, and move to SIP, like the rest of the world.







On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, 9:00 am Sean Agius (Personal), <sean at agius.id.au<mailto:sean at agius.id.au>> wrote:

The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be affected by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the Telstra network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling Party B. A lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather than their own business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then Diversion, then Calling Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to the root network(s) that allowed the spam/scam call to take place.

As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.

Regards, Sean.

-----Original Message-----
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au<mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>>
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...

Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(

It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe it will solve much SPAM calling.

They?ll just avoid Telstra :(

On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au<mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>> wrote:

?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers.
From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network level once these changes go through.
I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out.
From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network level.
Unless the number is on a Telstra account.
This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.

Regards Chad.

From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au<mailto:shaun at kadeo.com.au>>
To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com<mailto:xrobau at gmail.com>>
Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
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Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...

If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?

I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
"free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.

But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?

The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.

As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.

That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.

Just 2c
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From davidtradconsulting at gmail.com  Sun Mar 13 11:28:23 2022
From: davidtradconsulting at gmail.com (David Trad)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 10:28:23 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
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Correct me if I am wrong here, but these scammers and the copious amounts
of these calls only exist because the ones supplying them the wholesale
termination, choose not to terminate their services, I do know for a fact
they do get reported when one is able to track down the origination owner.

If anything, there needs to be better reporting mechanisms on identifying
the suppliers (Based on number ownership) and having the ability to notify
them and report this breach of the ACT, and to also block the entire number
block that these scammers are using, including the virtual mobile numbers
they are using now instead of FNN's

This all comes down to responsibility and respect for the market,
which clearly there is little of these days because it is all about the
revenue, and scam calls are increasing in significant numbers, averaging
8-10 a day from these asshats is becoming unbearable, and my number
blocking list on my mobile has become substantially long. I know for a fact
so has many others who use either Apple or Samsung inbuilt systems to do
spam identification are the same.

Cut their revenue by blocking them at the carrier/wholesale level, and all
of a sudden, they disappear, once the money is no longer there, then people
wisen up because it would have an effect on the legitimate side of their
business no doubt.

Personal Opinion of course :)

Cheers,


David Trad



On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 8:19 PM Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com> wrote:

> Telstra are clinging onto zones and exchange areas. Dad moved across the
> road. Was with Telstra and phone was provided on the nbn modem via voip.
> Wouldn?t let him keep the number as he was moving to a different exchange
> area.
>
> Moved my iiNet connection few years ago. They didn?t care what exchange
> zone the SIP number was in. Was fine.
>
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Chad Kelly <
> chad at cpkws.com.au>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:05:20 PM
> *To:* Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>; Sean Agius (Personal) <
> sean at agius.id.au>
> *Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
>
>
> Hi Ahh so its basically DMark or Dkim but for phone numbers.
>
> It actually looks like a good system.
>
> If a few major providers rolled this out in Australia Telstra would
> eventually be forced to.
>
> While they are at it Telstra could get rid of zones for phone numbers as
> well it?s Voip so its all internet based now a days anyway so you should be
> able to move numbers more easily oh and they should let you split numbers
> from a 100 range as well, like the majority of providers.
>
> Well they might still have some legacy PSTN services in regional areas but
> most of those have been switched.
>
> Regards Chad.
>
>
>
> Chad Kelly
>
> Manager
>
> CPK Web Services
>
> Phone 03 52730246
>
> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
>
>
>
> *From:* Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 12 March 2022 1:04 PM
> *To:* Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au>
> *Cc:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; Chad Kelly <
> chad at cpkws.com.au>; AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
>
>
>
> This is TRIVIALLY solvable by Australia implementing SHAKEN/STIR, which is
> a very simple JWT based assertion of Caller.
>
>
>
> https://stir.tel has all the info.
>
>
>
> In fact, I have a POC Certificate Authority in place for Australia, and
> written most of the code for a complete attestation and verification
> system, which is, or soon will be, open sourced as the reference code for
> the standard.
>
>
>
> Sadly, Telstra would have to move into the 2000s and stop requiring
> ISDN/SS7 for peering, and move to SIP, like the rest of the world.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, 9:00 am Sean Agius (Personal), <sean at agius.id.au>
> wrote:
>
> The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems
> that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be
> affected by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the
> Telstra network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling
> Party B. A lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather
> than their own business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then
> Diversion, then Calling Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to
> the root network(s) that allowed the spam/scam call to take place.
>
> As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this
> gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.
>
> Regards, Sean.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
> To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
>
> Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can
> use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(
>
> It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe
> it will solve much SPAM calling.
>
> They?ll just avoid Telstra :(
>
> On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
>
> ?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will
> prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers.
> From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers
> being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the
> scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the
> internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network
> level once these changes go through.
> I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this
> will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from
> the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out.
> From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make
> outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network
> level.
> Unless the number is on a Telstra account.
> This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.
>
> Regards Chad.
>
> From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au>
> To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
> Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> Message-ID:
>    <CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier
> networks and in software what ponders me is...
>
> If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer
> why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?
>
> I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
> "free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to
> carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR
> is faked but logs would show it originating.
>
> But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?
>
> The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network
> coming back inbound will help immensely.
>
> As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out
> pro-bono on a project.
>
> That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack
> the code.
>
> Just 2c
> _______________________________________________
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From mmc at mmc.com.au  Sun Mar 13 12:58:09 2022
From: mmc at mmc.com.au (Matthew Moyle-Croft)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 12:28:09 +1030
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
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References: <ME3PR01MB6878073134F9BE48B48E84B1FD0A9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: <750CB539-0FF6-456D-B2E8-D419159EBDB4@mmc.com.au>



> On 12 Mar 2022, at 12:02 pm, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Yeah it definitely looks like a plan that won't work as it was intended. 

Unless the intention is another effective moat around voice and trying to get business to go ?oh, only Telstra voice works?. 

Nah, Telstra have NEVER gamed the regulatory system using technical means before. That wouldn?t be it ...

MMC

> The question then becomes what is the solution to this as it's an ongoing issue. I guess particularly with mobiles it would be making sure that Sim Cards aren't taken over by scammer's using info that they have found on things like hacked facebook accounts to port the numbers out. 
> Though a the majority of the scams are done from overseas. 
> Regards Chad.
> 
> Chad Kelly 
> Manager 
> CPK Web Services 
> Phone 03 52730246
> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au> 
> Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2022 10:01 AM
> To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> 
> The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be affected by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the Telstra network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling Party B. A lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather than their own business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then Diversion, then Calling Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to the root network(s) that allowed the spam/scam call to take place.
> 
> As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.
> 
> Regards, Sean.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
> To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> 
> Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(
> 
> It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe it will solve much SPAM calling.
> 
> They?ll just avoid Telstra :(
> 
> On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers. 
> From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network level once these changes go through. 
> I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out. 
> From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network level.
> Unless the number is on a Telstra account. 
> This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.
> 
> Regards Chad. 
> 
> From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au>
> To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
> Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> Message-ID:
>   <CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...
> 
> If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?
> 
> I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
> "free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.
> 
> But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?
> 
> The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.
> 
> As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.
> 
> That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.
> 
> Just 2c
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From chad at cpkws.com.au  Sun Mar 13 15:42:27 2022
From: chad at cpkws.com.au (Chad Kelly)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 04:42:27 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
In-Reply-To: <750CB539-0FF6-456D-B2E8-D419159EBDB4@mmc.com.au>
References: <ME3PR01MB6878073134F9BE48B48E84B1FD0A9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
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 <ME3P282MB264328F1391B1458E5571D40C50C9@ME3P282MB2643.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Yeah wouldn't surprise me.


Chad Kelly 
Manager 
CPK Web Services 
Phone 03 52730246
Web https://www.cpkws.com.au


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au> 
Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2022 12:58 PM
To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
Cc: Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au>; Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...



> On 12 Mar 2022, at 12:02 pm, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Yeah it definitely looks like a plan that won't work as it was intended. 

Unless the intention is another effective moat around voice and trying to get business to go ?oh, only Telstra voice works?. 

Nah, Telstra have NEVER gamed the regulatory system using technical means before. That wouldn?t be it ...

MMC

> The question then becomes what is the solution to this as it's an ongoing issue. I guess particularly with mobiles it would be making sure that Sim Cards aren't taken over by scammer's using info that they have found on things like hacked facebook accounts to port the numbers out. 
> Though a the majority of the scams are done from overseas. 
> Regards Chad.
> 
> Chad Kelly 
> Manager 
> CPK Web Services 
> Phone 03 52730246
> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au> 
> Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2022 10:01 AM
> To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> 
> The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be affected by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the Telstra network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling Party B. A lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather than their own business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then Diversion, then Calling Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to the root network(s) that allowed the spam/scam call to take place.
> 
> As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.
> 
> Regards, Sean.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
> To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> 
> Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(
> 
> It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe it will solve much SPAM calling.
> 
> They?ll just avoid Telstra :(
> 
> On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers. 
> From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network level once these changes go through. 
> I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out. 
> From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network level.
> Unless the number is on a Telstra account. 
> This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.
> 
> Regards Chad. 
> 
> From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au>
> To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>
> Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
> Message-ID:
>   <CA+kVNc811wfDMqREiwoK+ZkZnqMoQgNnkwbeO4n6_23v_bhw0Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...
> 
> If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?
> 
> I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
> "free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.
> 
> But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?
> 
> The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.
> 
> As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.
> 
> That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.
> 
> Just 2c
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> _______________________________________________
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From chad at cpkws.com.au  Sun Mar 13 15:59:39 2022
From: chad at cpkws.com.au (Chad Kelly)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 04:59:39 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
In-Reply-To: <SG2PR03MB44242A77F46F4E21597D7A3DAD0D9@SG2PR03MB4424.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <ME3PR01MB6878073134F9BE48B48E84B1FD0A9@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
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I also don?t care where the number was based as long as the monthly bill gets paid.
It?s pretty old technology even focusing on Exchanges given everything is based on state and regional based connectivity with the NBN POI model which doesn?t look like changing ever.
Not to mention half the time with NBN you end up connected to a node several KMs away from your closest one given how the network is designed.
Regards Chad.


Chad Kelly
Manager
CPK Web Services
Phone 03 52730246
Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
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From: Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com>
Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2022 9:19 PM
To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>; Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com>; Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...

Telstra are clinging onto zones and exchange areas. Dad moved across the road. Was with Telstra and phone was provided on the nbn modem via voip. Wouldn?t let him keep the number as he was moving to a different exchange area.

Moved my iiNet connection few years ago. They didn?t care what exchange zone the SIP number was in. Was fine.

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net>> on behalf of Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au<mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 1:05:20 PM
To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com<mailto:xrobau at gmail.com>>; Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au<mailto:sean at agius.id.au>>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...


Hi Ahh so its basically DMark or Dkim but for phone numbers.

It actually looks like a good system.

If a few major providers rolled this out in Australia Telstra would eventually be forced to.

While they are at it Telstra could get rid of zones for phone numbers as well it?s Voip so its all internet based now a days anyway so you should be able to move numbers more easily oh and they should let you split numbers from a 100 range as well, like the majority of providers.

Well they might still have some legacy PSTN services in regional areas but most of those have been switched.

Regards Chad.



Chad Kelly

Manager

CPK Web Services

Phone 03 52730246

Web https://www.cpkws.com.au

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From: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com<mailto:xrobau at gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, 12 March 2022 1:04 PM
To: Sean Agius (Personal) <sean at agius.id.au<mailto:sean at agius.id.au>>
Cc: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>>; Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au<mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>>; AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...



This is TRIVIALLY solvable by Australia implementing SHAKEN/STIR, which is a very simple JWT based assertion of Caller.



https://stir.tel has all the info.



In fact, I have a POC Certificate Authority in place for Australia, and written most of the code for a complete attestation and verification system, which is, or soon will be, open sourced as the reference code for the standard.



Sadly, Telstra would have to move into the 2000s and stop requiring ISDN/SS7 for peering, and move to SIP, like the rest of the world.







On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, 9:00 am Sean Agius (Personal), <sean at agius.id.au<mailto:sean at agius.id.au>> wrote:

The proposed implementation by Telstra is flawed. For example, PBX systems that use any type of forward (Sim ring/Unconditional etc.), will be affected by the dropping of that call (If the call forward target is on the Telstra network); unless the forwarded call CLI is presented as Calling Party B. A lot of our clients prefer to know who is calling them, rather than their own business DID. If authorisation was done on PAI, then Diversion, then Calling Number, then there is enough data to backtrack to the root network(s) that allowed the spam/scam call to take place.

As stated, there will be a general consensus to avoid Telstra if/when this gets implemented and starts affecting legitimate use case scenarios.

Regards, Sean.

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Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2022 8:08 PM
To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au<mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>>
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...

Nope it won?t and that?s not what it?s doing, it?s the opposite?. You can use Telstra CLI?s on other networks without an issue :(

It?s going to cause a massive cluster that?s for sure but I don?t believe it will solve much SPAM calling.

They?ll just avoid Telstra :(

On 9 Mar 2022, at 19:48, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au<mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>> wrote:

?Hi Just on this, the Telstra preventing CLIRs I am pretty sure this will prevent the scammers from using any Telstra numbers.
From what I understand the changes will prevent the use of Telstra numbers being used as caller IDs from outside of their network, previously the scammers have been able to use random mobile numbers they have found on the internet as the caller ID this will no longer be permitted on the network level once these changes go through.
I understand from an ISP point of view that the only exception to this will be approved port out requests where Telstra has signed paperwork from the gaining  ISP to say the customer has approved to port their number out.
From how I understand this is being rolled out all other requests to make outbound calls from random Telstra numbers will be blocked at the network level.
Unless the number is on a Telstra account.
This should help significantly with cutting down the amount of scam calls.

Regards Chad.

From: Shaun Deans <shaun at kadeo.com.au<mailto:shaun at kadeo.com.au>>
To: Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com<mailto:xrobau at gmail.com>>
Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it...
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Random thought experiment... as both someone who's worked in carrier networks and in software what ponders me is...

If my Google Phone app can detect a scammer and tell me before I answer why can't a carrier (source or destination) ?

I understand Google has a massive dataset which the humans feed (for
"free") every day. But I'm sure they just live to offer a service to carrier's for 'extreme scammers' back to carrier's. I understand the CLIR is faked but logs would show it originating.

But as someone else said the scammers' will still pay for the calls. ?

The current projects stopping of overstamping CLIRs outside the network coming back inbound will help immensely.

As someone with experience on both sides (Net & Dev) I'd love to geek out pro-bono on a project.

That said I'm sure Telstra has smarter gals & guys than me trying to crack the code.

Just 2c
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From david at hughes.id  Tue Mar 15 10:22:21 2022
From: david at hughes.id (david at hughes.id)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 09:22:21 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG Programme On-line
Message-ID: <B059B2F0-E197-4D09-A9E2-D8FBD7BEE6EE@hughes.id>

Good morning all,

With AusNOG 2021* only 3 weeks away it's a great time to share the programme.  Many thanks to all our speakers as our usual contingent of internationals hasn't been able to attend this year.  The programme is on the web site at :

	https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2021/programme


Regards,

David
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* AusNOG 2021 held in April 2022.

From bryn at wintonit.biz  Thu Mar 17 10:56:20 2022
From: bryn at wintonit.biz (Bryn Loftus)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 10:56:20 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Wisp around Robertson nsw
Message-ID: <24334C6C-BEB0-4105-8DBA-FE2D997A9C8E@wintonit.biz>

Looking for a provider around Robertson NSW

Sent from my iPhone


From drikusinaus at gmail.com  Thu Mar 17 12:15:09 2022
From: drikusinaus at gmail.com (Drikus Brits)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 12:15:09 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] HPE Synergy 12000 - Virtual Connect SE 100Gb F32 Module -
 Generic QSFP optics
Message-ID: <CANjKXcWG5tNNiePrriO=REj=uYX=rfQQCyiMT3r5iLNyCzjTRg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

Hoping to hear from operators in this group that have deployed HPE
Synergy 12k chassis, VC-100GB-F32 ic-modules and 40Gb generic optics
instead of genuine HPE/Finisar optics.

I'm having some issues with 3rd party optics (not fs.com ones) that
appear to corrupt the interconnect module/port and subsequently
require a restart of the interconnect module for it to correctly pick
up even genuine optic information.

What is the experience like with 3rd parties on these chassis,
workable or stay away?

Regards,
Drikus.

From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Thu Mar 17 14:48:08 2022
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 03:48:08 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
Message-ID: <MEYP282MB252030D5AEAFD9BD80A965C3DB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi Guys,

Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams etc in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world appears to be ending.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
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From shah.hardik at techflow.com.au  Thu Mar 17 14:49:45 2022
From: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au (Shah Hardik)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 03:49:45 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
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We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.

Still investigating.

Best regards,

Shah Hardik

Director

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From Bryce at unitech.com.au  Thu Mar 17 14:49:58 2022
From: Bryce at unitech.com.au (Bryce Mackiewicz)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 03:49:58 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
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We are seeing Azure and 365 connectivity down as well

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Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage

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Hi Guys,

Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams etc in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world appears to be ending.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

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From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Thu Mar 17 14:51:23 2022
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 03:51:23 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
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Things have just started to restore but was a good solid 10-15 minutes of reaching Microsoft for some users failing, thanks for the response, appreciate it.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

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From: Shah Hardik <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 2:50 PM
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Cc: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage

We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.

Still investigating.



Best regards,
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On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>> wrote:
Hi Guys,

Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams etc in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world appears to be ending.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

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e Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> |  w: iperium.com.au<http://iperium.com.au/>

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From matt at spectrum.com.au  Thu Mar 17 14:54:42 2022
From: matt at spectrum.com.au (Matt Perkins)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 14:54:42 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
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So i guess it's Office 264.99998 now

Matt


On 17/3/2022 2:51 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>
> Things have just started to restore but was a good solid 10-15 minutes 
> of reaching Microsoft for some users failing, thanks for the response, 
> appreciate it.
>
> *Nathan Brookfield
> *General Manager
>
> *p*: 02 4749 4949 | 1300 592 330? |
> *e*Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au 
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> *From:*Shah Hardik <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
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> *To:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> *Cc:* <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
>
> We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.
>
> Still investigating.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shah Hardik
>
> Director
>
> Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366
>
> Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009
>
> Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au | www.techflow.com.au 
> <http://t.sidekickopen05.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XZsd7g2vW6442zv2BF-FPW7fRL1x56dRC4d5gLDT02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techflow.com.au%2F&si=5046652182331392&pi=0b9b55a6-b67f-4bdb-bc52-508bd86a1dbf> 
>
>
> Sent via Superhuman <https://sprh.mn/?vip=shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield 
> <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> wrote:
>
>     Hi Guys,
>
>     Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams
>     etc in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world
>     appears to be ending.
>
>     *Nathan Brookfield**
>     *General Manager
>
>     *p*: 02 4749 4949 | 1300 592 330? |
>     *e*Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au
>     <mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> | *w*: iperium.com.au
>     <http://iperium.com.au/>
>
>     Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000
>
>
>     *Your Connectivity Distributor*
>
>     DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named
>     addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files
>     or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential
>     information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under
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>     contained in this document, by any person other than the
>     addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document
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>     are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any
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From drikusinaus at gmail.com  Thu Mar 17 16:32:15 2022
From: drikusinaus at gmail.com (Drikus Brits)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 16:32:15 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
In-Reply-To: <5e6e1984-ad47-5e19-f52f-50868e7040e0@spectrum.com.au>
References: <MEYP282MB252030D5AEAFD9BD80A965C3DB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <l0ugdp9x.9d1edaf2-b278-4d53-8a1c-3ea4b1564e14@we.are.superhuman.com>
 <MEYP282MB2520238E31A141AD96BF2A8ADB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <5e6e1984-ad47-5e19-f52f-50868e7040e0@spectrum.com.au>
Message-ID: <CANjKXcU9OQxqneC+0q=SC0oRmjPhw4Xx4Q_tsNzOcBDDQZ28Rg@mail.gmail.com>

We experienced it as well, Teams voice services dropped. I don't see
anything ito notifications popping up from MS side. Do we know if this was
via a particular IX that it was experienced?

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:55 PM Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:

> So i guess it's Office 264.99998 now
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 17/3/2022 2:51 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>
> Things have just started to restore but was a good solid 10-15 minutes of
> reaching Microsoft for some users failing, thanks for the response,
> appreciate it.
>
>
>
>
> *Nathan Brookfield *General Manager
>
> *p*: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
> *e* Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au |  *w*: iperium.com.au
>
> Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000
>
>
> *Your Connectivity Distributor*
>
> DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This
> electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto,
> contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and
> otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual
> property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the
> information contained in this document, by any person other than the
> addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error,
> please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any
> computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by
> reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are
> solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of
> Iperium.
>
> WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient
> should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses.
> Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted
> by this email.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Shah Hardik <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
> <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 17 March 2022 2:50 PM
> *To:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> *Cc:* <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
>
>
>
> We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.
>
>
>
> Still investigating.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shah Hardik
>
> Director
>
> Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366
>
> Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009
>
> Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au | www.techflow.com.au
> <http://t.sidekickopen05.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XZsd7g2vW6442zv2BF-FPW7fRL1x56dRC4d5gLDT02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techflow.com.au%2F&si=5046652182331392&pi=0b9b55a6-b67f-4bdb-bc52-508bd86a1dbf>
>
>
>
> Sent via Superhuman <https://sprh.mn/?vip=shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield <
> Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams etc in
> Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world appears to be
> ending.
>
>
>
> *Nathan Brookfield*
> General Manager
>
> *p*: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
> *e*Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au |  *w*: iperium.com.au
>
> Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000
>
>
> *Your Connectivity Distributor*
>
> DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This
> electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto,
> contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and
> otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual
> property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the
> information contained in this document, by any person other than the
> addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error,
> please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any
> computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by
> reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are
> solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of
> Iperium.
>
> WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient
> should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses.
> Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted
> by this email.
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From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Thu Mar 17 16:39:12 2022
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 05:39:12 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
In-Reply-To: <CANjKXcU9OQxqneC+0q=SC0oRmjPhw4Xx4Q_tsNzOcBDDQZ28Rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <MEYP282MB252030D5AEAFD9BD80A965C3DB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <l0ugdp9x.9d1edaf2-b278-4d53-8a1c-3ea4b1564e14@we.are.superhuman.com>
 <MEYP282MB2520238E31A141AD96BF2A8ADB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <5e6e1984-ad47-5e19-f52f-50868e7040e0@spectrum.com.au>
 <CANjKXcU9OQxqneC+0q=SC0oRmjPhw4Xx4Q_tsNzOcBDDQZ28Rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MEYP282MB2520B2995878F5C184565A9FDB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

We see them via Vocus so not using any of our Multilat?s and we don?t have a Bilat to them, I believe it looked like a DNS issue at the time.

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Drikus Brits
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 4:32 PM
To: Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage

We experienced it as well, Teams voice services dropped. I don't see anything ito notifications popping up from MS side. Do we know if this was via a particular IX that it was experienced?

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:55 PM Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au<mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:

So i guess it's Office 264.99998 now

Matt


On 17/3/2022 2:51 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
Things have just started to restore but was a good solid 10-15 minutes of reaching Microsoft for some users failing, thanks for the response, appreciate it.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
e Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> |  w: iperium.com.au<http://iperium.com.au>

Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000

[cid:image001.png at 01D83A1D.87CCFB10]
Your Connectivity Distributor

DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium.

WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.


From: Shah Hardik <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au><mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 2:50 PM
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au><mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Cc: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net><mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net><mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage

We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.

Still investigating.



Best regards,
Shah Hardik
Director
Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366
Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009
Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au<mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au> | www.techflow.com.au<http://t.sidekickopen05.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XZsd7g2vW6442zv2BF-FPW7fRL1x56dRC4d5gLDT02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techflow.com.au%2F&si=5046652182331392&pi=0b9b55a6-b67f-4bdb-bc52-508bd86a1dbf>

Sent via Superhuman<https://sprh.mn/?vip=shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>


On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>> wrote:
Hi Guys,

Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams etc in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world appears to be ending.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
eNathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> |  w: iperium.com.au<http://iperium.com.au/>

Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000

[cid:image001.png at 01D83A1D.87CCFB10]
Your Connectivity Distributor

DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium.

WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.



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        ABN 66 090 112 913      Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000

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From brad at bradleyamm.com  Thu Mar 17 17:02:16 2022
From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 06:02:16 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
In-Reply-To: <MEYP282MB2520B2995878F5C184565A9FDB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <MEYP282MB252030D5AEAFD9BD80A965C3DB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <l0ugdp9x.9d1edaf2-b278-4d53-8a1c-3ea4b1564e14@we.are.superhuman.com>
 <MEYP282MB2520238E31A141AD96BF2A8ADB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <5e6e1984-ad47-5e19-f52f-50868e7040e0@spectrum.com.au>
 <CANjKXcU9OQxqneC+0q=SC0oRmjPhw4Xx4Q_tsNzOcBDDQZ28Rg@mail.gmail.com>,
 <MEYP282MB2520B2995878F5C184565A9FDB129@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <SG2PR03MB44248E6467D07883F7C19A5FAD129@SG2PR03MB4424.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com>

It?s always DNS

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 1:39:12 PM
To: Drikus Brits <drikusinaus at gmail.com>; Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage


We see them via Vocus so not using any of our Multilat?s and we don?t have a Bilat to them, I believe it looked like a DNS issue at the time.



From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Drikus Brits
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 4:32 PM
To: Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage



We experienced it as well, Teams voice services dropped. I don't see anything ito notifications popping up from MS side. Do we know if this was via a particular IX that it was experienced?



On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:55 PM Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au<mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:

So i guess it's Office 264.99998 now

Matt



On 17/3/2022 2:51 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:

Things have just started to restore but was a good solid 10-15 minutes of reaching Microsoft for some users failing, thanks for the response, appreciate it.



Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
e Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> |  w: iperium.com.au<http://iperium.com.au>

Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000

[cid:image001.png at 01D83A1D.87CCFB10]
Your Connectivity Distributor

DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium.

WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.





From: Shah Hardik <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au><mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 2:50 PM
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au><mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Cc: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net><mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net><mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage



We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.



Still investigating.







Best regards,

Shah Hardik

Director

Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366

Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009

Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au<mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au> | www.techflow.com.au<http://t.sidekickopen05.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XZsd7g2vW6442zv2BF-FPW7fRL1x56dRC4d5gLDT02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techflow.com.au%2F&si=5046652182331392&pi=0b9b55a6-b67f-4bdb-bc52-508bd86a1dbf>



Sent via Superhuman<https://sprh.mn/?vip=shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>





On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>> wrote:

Hi Guys,



Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams etc in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world appears to be ending.



Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
eNathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> |  w: iperium.com.au<http://iperium.com.au/>

Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000

[cid:image001.png at 01D83A1D.87CCFB10]
Your Connectivity Distributor

DISCLAIMER: This document is intended solely for the named addressee. This electronic communication, which includes any files or attachments thereto, contains proprietary or confidential information and may be privileged and otherwise protected under copyright or other applicable intellectual property laws. The use, disclosure, copying or distribution of any of the information contained in this document, by any person other than the addressee, is strictly prohibited. If you received this document in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all the material from any computer. Confidentiality and legal privilege are not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Iperium.

WARNING: Computer viruses can be transmitted via email. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Iperium accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.





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From pete at mac.geek.nz  Thu Mar 17 17:39:30 2022
From: pete at mac.geek.nz (Pete Mundy)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:39:30 +1300
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
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Get the shirt!

https://redshirtjeff.com/listing/it-was-dns-shirt?product=211

:)

(sorry, very off topic)

> On 17/03/2022, at 7:02 PM, Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com> wrote:
> 
> It?s always DNS 


From chad at cpkws.com.au  Fri Mar 18 11:40:38 2022
From: chad at cpkws.com.au (Chad Kelly)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 00:40:38 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
Message-ID: <ME3PR01MB68782BE8B8E742B1F57B2F23FD139@ME3PR01MB6878.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>

Hi I didn't notice anything yesterday, however it was only 15 minutes or so which is still within the time limit of the SLA. 
That said all our Azure services are in Melbourne, as for Teams voice set it up as Hybrid if your services are critical seriously direct routing isn't that fantastic, I mean its not terrible but not great either, particularly if your running health care or anything critical Microsoft actually route traffic for it overseas before it hits the servers in Australia I found this out the hard way when servers in Singapore were failing last year causing calls to just be dropped, as in it would connect to the auto attendant go to the traffic management system to be put through to the SBC and re-routed but the call would just drop with a message saying it couldn't be connected. 
In typical Microsoft fashion  they overcomplicate what should be fairly straightforward routing.
This is why the SPLA program is still popular as not everything is suitable to go cloud native. 
Oh and if you are going to use Azure DNS use all 4 nameservers as they have 3 in Sydney and 1 in Melbourne or the other way around if your routing is in Melbourne basically you get a lot more redundancy. 
Regards Chad.

Chad Kelly 
Manager 
CPK Web Services 
Phone 03 52730246
Web https://www.cpkws.com.au


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 14:54:42 +1100
From: Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
To: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
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So i guess it's Office 264.99998 now

Matt


On 17/3/2022 2:51 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>
> Things have just started to restore but was a good solid 10-15 minutes 
> of reaching Microsoft for some users failing, thanks for the response, 
> appreciate it.
>
> *Nathan Brookfield
> *General Manager
>
> *p*: 02 4749 4949 | 1300 592 330? |
> *e*Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au
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> *From:*Shah Hardik <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
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> *To:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> *Cc:* <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
>
> We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.
>
> Still investigating.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shah Hardik
>
> Director
>
> Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366
>
> Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009
>
> Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au | www.techflow.com.au 
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> ow.com.au%2F&si=5046652182331392&pi=0b9b55a6-b67f-4bdb-bc52-508bd86a1d
> bf>
>
>
> Sent via Superhuman <https://sprh.mn/?vip=shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield 
> <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> wrote:
>
>     Hi Guys,
>
>     Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams
>     etc in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world
>     appears to be ending.
>
>     *Nathan Brookfield**
>     *General Manager
>
>     *p*: 02 4749 4949 | 1300 592 330? |
>     *e*Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au
>     <mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> | *w*: iperium.com.au
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 16:32:15 +1100
From: Drikus Brits <drikusinaus at gmail.com>
To: Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
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We experienced it as well, Teams voice services dropped. I don't see anything ito notifications popping up from MS side. Do we know if this was via a particular IX that it was experienced?

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:55 PM Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:

> So i guess it's Office 264.99998 now
>
> Matt
>
>
> On 17/3/2022 2:51 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>
> Things have just started to restore but was a good solid 10-15 minutes 
> of reaching Microsoft for some users failing, thanks for the response, 
> appreciate it.
>
>
>
>
> *Nathan Brookfield *General Manager
>
> *p*: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
> *e* Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au |  *w*: iperium.com.au
>
> Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000
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> *From:* Shah Hardik <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au> 
> <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 17 March 2022 2:50 PM
> *To:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> *Cc:* <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> 
> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
>
>
>
> We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.
>
>
>
> Still investigating.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Shah Hardik
>
> Director
>
> Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366
>
> Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009
>
> Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au | www.techflow.com.au 
> <http://t.sidekickopen05.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7
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> bf>
>
>
>
> Sent via Superhuman <https://sprh.mn/?vip=shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield < 
> Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams etc 
> in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world appears 
> to be ending.
>
>
>
> *Nathan Brookfield*
> General Manager
>
> *p*: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
> *e*Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au |  *w*: iperium.com.au
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 05:39:12 +0000
From: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
To: Drikus Brits <drikusinaus at gmail.com>, Matt Perkins
	<matt at spectrum.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage
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We see them via Vocus so not using any of our Multilat?s and we don?t have a Bilat to them, I believe it looked like a DNS issue at the time.

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Drikus Brits
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 4:32 PM
To: Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage

We experienced it as well, Teams voice services dropped. I don't see anything ito notifications popping up from MS side. Do we know if this was via a particular IX that it was experienced?

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:55 PM Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au<mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:

So i guess it's Office 264.99998 now

Matt


On 17/3/2022 2:51 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
Things have just started to restore but was a good solid 10-15 minutes of reaching Microsoft for some users failing, thanks for the response, appreciate it.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
e Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> |  w: iperium.com.au<http://iperium.com.au>

Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000

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From: Shah Hardik <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au><mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 2:50 PM
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au><mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Cc: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net><mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net><mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage

We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.

Still investigating.



Best regards,
Shah Hardik
Director
Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366 Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009
Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au<mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au> | www.techflow.com.au<http://t.sidekickopen05.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XZsd7g2vW6442zv2BF-FPW7fRL1x56dRC4d5gLDT02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techflow.com.au%2F&si=5046652182331392&pi=0b9b55a6-b67f-4bdb-bc52-508bd86a1dbf>

Sent via Superhuman<https://sprh.mn/?vip=shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>


On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>> wrote:
Hi Guys,

Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams etc in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world appears to be ending.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
eNathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> |  w: iperium.com.au<http://iperium.com.au/>

Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000

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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 06:02:16 +0000
From: Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com>
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>, Drikus Brits
	<drikusinaus at gmail.com>, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
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It?s always DNS

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2022 1:39:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage


We see them via Vocus so not using any of our Multilat?s and we don?t have a Bilat to them, I believe it looked like a DNS issue at the time.



From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Drikus Brits
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 4:32 PM
To: Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage



We experienced it as well, Teams voice services dropped. I don't see anything ito notifications popping up from MS side. Do we know if this was via a particular IX that it was experienced?



On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:55 PM Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au<mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:

So i guess it's Office 264.99998 now

Matt



On 17/3/2022 2:51 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:

Things have just started to restore but was a good solid 10-15 minutes of reaching Microsoft for some users failing, thanks for the response, appreciate it.



Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
e Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> |  w: iperium.com.au<http://iperium.com.au>

Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 2000

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From: Shah Hardik <shah.hardik at techflow.com.au><mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2022 2:50 PM
To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au><mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Cc: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net><mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net><mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Microsoft Outage



We are noticing some DNS issues with our azure platforms.



Still investigating.







Best regards,

Shah Hardik

Director

Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366

Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009

Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au<mailto:shah.hardik at techflow.com.au> | www.techflow.com.au<http://t.sidekickopen05.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XZsd7g2vW6442zv2BF-FPW7fRL1x56dRC4d5gLDT02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techflow.com.au%2F&si=5046652182331392&pi=0b9b55a6-b67f-4bdb-bc52-508bd86a1dbf>



Sent via Superhuman<https://sprh.mn/?vip=shah.hardik at techflow.com.au>





On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:48 PM, Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>> wrote:

Hi Guys,



Is anyone seeing an issue with connectivity to Office365 / Teams etc in Sydney, started approximately 5 minutes ago but the world appears to be ending.



Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
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From andrew at levart.com.au  Tue Mar 22 16:41:27 2022
From: andrew at levart.com.au (Andrew Simmonds)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 13:41:27 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
Message-ID: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>

Hi All,

Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?

Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down 
especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.

Cloudflare is giving errors such as:

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)

It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au

Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.

Best Regards,

<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
*Levart*
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021 <#> 	p:
m:
f:
e:
w: 	1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au
www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/>
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From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Tue Mar 22 16:42:30 2022
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 05:42:30 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
Message-ID: <MEYP282MB25204F9D1EA909E4E65C0921DB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Oh yeah, roughly around 1540hrs Sydney time it started?.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
e Nathan.brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.brookfield at iperium.com.au>  |  w: iperium.com.au

Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 200
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From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Andrew Simmonds
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:41 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken


Hi All,

Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?

Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.

Cloudflare is giving errors such as:

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)

It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au

Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.

Best Regards,
[cid:image002.png at 01D83E0B.C7E1DC60]<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021
p:
m:
f:
e:
w:
1300 538 278<tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463<tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003<tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
www.levart.com.au<https://www.levart.com.au/>

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From luke.t at tncrew.com.au  Tue Mar 22 16:44:18 2022
From: luke.t at tncrew.com.au (Luke Thompson)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 16:44:18 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
Message-ID: <18df8ec1-6706-6b29-872a-4e8177d9a68f@tncrew.com.au>

Seeing the same from 3.41pm Sydney time.

Cheers,

Luke Thompson
Operations Manager

The Network Crew Pty Ltd
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au


On 22/3/22 4:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?
>
> Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down 
> especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.
>
> Cloudflare is giving errors such as:
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
> ; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)
>
> It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:
>
> https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au
>
> Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> <https://www.levart.com.au/>
> Andrew Simmonds
> Systems Development Manager
> *Levart*
> 1A/18 Gibberd Road
> Balcatta WA 6021 <#> 	p:
> m:
> f:
> e:
> w: 	1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
> +61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
> +61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
> andrew at levart.com.au
> www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>
>
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From dirk at twofatmonkeys.com  Tue Mar 22 16:46:42 2022
From: dirk at twofatmonkeys.com (Two Fat Monkeys - Dirk Bermingham)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 05:46:42 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <MEYP282MB25204F9D1EA909E4E65C0921DB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <MEYP282MB25204F9D1EA909E4E65C0921DB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <f2a92016-370b-4eb6-83de-4613441ea20a@mtasv.net>

Ahhh, nothing like a broken dependency ruining an autonomous system??

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2022 4:43 PM
To: 'Andrew Simmonds' <andrew at levart.com.au>; 'ausnog at ausnog.net' <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken

Oh yeah, roughly around 1540hrs Sydney time it started?.

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

p: 02 4749 4949 |  1300 592 330  |
e Nathan.brookfield at iperium.com.au<mailto:Nathan.brookfield at iperium.com.au>  |  w: iperium.com.au

Suite 702, 82 Elizabeth Street, Sydney NSW 200
[cid:image001.png at 01D83E0C.11BEB470]
Your Telco Team
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From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Andrew Simmonds
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:41 PM
To: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken


Hi All,

Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?

Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.

Cloudflare is giving errors such as:

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)

It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au

Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.

Best Regards,
[cid:image002.png at 01D83E0C.11BEB470]<https://www.levart.com.au/>

Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021

p:
m:
f:
e:
w:

1300 538 278<tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463<tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003<tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
www.levart.com.au<https://www.levart.com.au/>


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From ausnog at seamoo.se  Tue Mar 22 16:50:33 2022
From: ausnog at seamoo.se (Seamus Ryan)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 05:50:33 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <18df8ec1-6706-6b29-872a-4e8177d9a68f@tncrew.com.au>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <18df8ec1-6706-6b29-872a-4e8177d9a68f@tncrew.com.au>
Message-ID: <SYBPR01MB59343C2D9F944989E2972CA9D0179@SYBPR01MB5934.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>

Yup, things breaking everywhere. Guess is something was being done to prepare for .AU launch and erm, fat fingered?

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
________________________________
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Luke Thompson <luke.t at tncrew.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:44:18 PM
To: Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au>; ausnog at ausnog.net <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken


Seeing the same from 3.41pm Sydney time.

Cheers,
Luke Thompson
Operations Manager

The Network Crew Pty Ltd
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au

On 22/3/22 4:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:

Hi All,

Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?

Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.

Cloudflare is giving errors such as:

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)

It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au

Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.

Best Regards,
[cid:part1.5zAL2XmR.slijeaAZ at tncrew.com.au]<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021
p:
m:
f:
e:
w:
1300 538 278<tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463<tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003<tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
www.levart.com.au<https://www.levart.com.au/>



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From francisfides at mailup.net  Tue Mar 22 16:56:31 2022
From: francisfides at mailup.net (francisfides at mailup.net)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 15:56:31 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <SYBPR01MB59343C2D9F944989E2972CA9D0179@SYBPR01MB5934.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <18df8ec1-6706-6b29-872a-4e8177d9a68f@tncrew.com.au>
 <SYBPR01MB59343C2D9F944989E2972CA9D0179@SYBPR01MB5934.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <6cacaac9-67a7-4345-952e-904b61b0f07b@www.fastmail.com>

>From my box in WA, USA:
Cloudflare below. Google failing right now for ing.com.au, but not downdetector.com.au.
Have fun everyone.

> username at hostname ~ $ nslookup 
> > server 1.1.1.1
> Default server: 1.1.1.1
> Address: 1.1.1.1#53
> > ing.com.au
> Server:         1.1.1.1
> Address:        1.1.1.1#53
> 
> ** server can't find ing.com.au: SERVFAIL
> > downdetector.com.au
> Server:         1.1.1.1
> Address:        1.1.1.1#53
> 
> ** server can't find downdetector.com.au: SERVFAIL
> > afr.com
> Server:         1.1.1.1
> Address:        1.1.1.1#53
> 
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name:   afr.com
> Address: 13.249.38.55
> Name:   afr.com
> Address: 13.249.38.44
> Name:   afr.com
> Address: 13.249.38.4
> Name:   afr.com
> Address: 13.249.38.18
> >

-- 
  
  francisfides at mailup.net



On Tue, Mar 22, 2022, at 15:50, Seamus Ryan wrote:
> Yup, things breaking everywhere. Guess is something was being done to prepare for .AU launch and erm, fat fingered?
>  
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> 
> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Luke Thompson <luke.t at tncrew.com.au>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:44:18 PM
> *To:* Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au>; ausnog at ausnog.net <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
>  
> Seeing the same from 3.41pm Sydney time.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Luke Thompson 
> Operations Manager 
> 
> The Network Crew Pty Ltd 
> https://thenetworkcrew.com.au
> 
> 
> 
> On 22/3/22 4:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?
>> 
>> Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.
>> 
>> Cloudflare is giving errors such as:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
>> ; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)
>> 
>> 
>> It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:
>> 
>> https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au
>> 
>> Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
 <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>> Andrew Simmonds
>> Systems Development Manager
>> *Levart*
>> 1A/18 Gibberd Road
>> Balcatta WA 6021
>> p:
>> m:
>> f:
>> e:
>> w:
>> 1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
>> +61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
>> +61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
>> andrew at levart.com.au
>> www.levart.com.au
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> AusNOG mailing list
>> AusNOG at ausnog.net
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From malz at jetlan.com  Tue Mar 22 16:59:45 2022
From: malz at jetlan.com (Mal)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 16:29:45 +1030
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <6cacaac9-67a7-4345-952e-904b61b0f07b@www.fastmail.com>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <18df8ec1-6706-6b29-872a-4e8177d9a68f@tncrew.com.au>
 <SYBPR01MB59343C2D9F944989E2972CA9D0179@SYBPR01MB5934.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
 <6cacaac9-67a7-4345-952e-904b61b0f07b@www.fastmail.com>
Message-ID: <6cad256b-ed8c-aab5-db6e-93044dcfd0fb@jetlan.com>


downdetector.com.au? is not a signed zone.

ing.com.au is not signed either.

But this one is:
https://dnsviz.net/d/apnic.com.au/dnssec/




On 22/03/2022 4:26 pm, francisfides at mailup.net wrote:
> From my box in WA, USA:
> Cloudflare below. Google failing right now for ing.com.au, but not
> downdetector.com.au.
> Have fun everyone.
>
>> username at hostname ~ $ nslookup
>> > server 1.1.1.1
>> Default server: 1.1.1.1
>> Address: 1.1.1.1#53
>> > ing.com.au
>> Server:???????? 1.1.1.1
>> Address:??????? 1.1.1.1#53
>>
>> ** server can't find ing.com.au: SERVFAIL
>> > downdetector.com.au
>> Server:???????? 1.1.1.1
>> Address:??????? 1.1.1.1#53
>>
>> ** server can't find downdetector.com.au: SERVFAIL
>> > afr.com
>> Server:???????? 1.1.1.1
>> Address:??????? 1.1.1.1#53
>>
>> Non-authoritative answer:
>> Name:?? afr.com
>> Address: 13.249.38.55
>> Name:?? afr.com
>> Address: 13.249.38.44
>> Name:?? afr.com
>> Address: 13.249.38.4
>> Name:?? afr.com
>> Address: 13.249.38.18
>> >
>
> --?
> ??
> ??francisfides at mailup.net <mailto:francisfides at mailup.net>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022, at 15:50, Seamus Ryan wrote:
>>
>> Yup, things breaking everywhere. Guess is something was being done to
>> prepare for .AU launch and erm, fat fingered?
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Luke Thompson
>> <luke.t at tncrew.com.au>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:44:18 PM
>> *To:* Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au>; ausnog at ausnog.net
>> <ausnog at ausnog.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Seeing the same from 3.41pm Sydney time.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Luke Thompson
>> Operations Manager
>>
>> The Network Crew Pty Ltd
>> https://thenetworkcrew.com.au
>>
>>
>> On 22/3/22 4:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:
>>
>>     Hi All,
>>
>>     Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?
>>
>>     Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains
>>     down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching
>>     resolvers etc.
>>
>>     Cloudflare is giving errors such as:
>>
>>
>>     ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>>     ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
>>     ; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)
>>
>>
>>     It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:
>>
>>     https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au
>>
>>     Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.
>>
>>     Best Regards,
>>
>>     <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>>
>>     Andrew Simmonds
>>     Systems Development Manager
>>     *Levart*
>>     1A/18 Gibberd Road
>>     Balcatta WA 6021
>>
>>     	
>>
>>     p:
>>     m:
>>     f:
>>     e:
>>     w:
>>
>>     	
>>
>>     1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
>>     +61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
>>     +61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
>>     andrew at levart.com.au <mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
>>     www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>
>>     AusNOG mailing list
>>
>>     AusNOG at ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at ausnog.net>
>>
>>     https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> AusNOG at ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at ausnog.net>
>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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>
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From simon at attwell.net  Tue Mar 22 17:00:02 2022
From: simon at attwell.net (Simon Attwell)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 16:00:02 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAJvD_sVyM9M9hnc7wZHzzFzY9JQR+0epvdodTvdahS6fLanEig@mail.gmail.com>

Yep,

OpenDNS / Cisco Umbrella customers are noticing too.
Pretty much all .au resolution starting to fail via that service.

- Simon

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 15:41, Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?
>
> Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down
> especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.
>
> Cloudflare is giving errors such as:
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
> ; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)
>
> It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:
>
> https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au
>
> Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.
>
> Best Regards,
> <https://www.levart.com.au/>
> Andrew Simmonds
> Systems Development Manager
> *Levart*
> 1A/18 Gibberd Road
> Balcatta WA 6021 <#m_-6691292245560964401_> p:
> m:
> f:
> e:
> w: 1300 538 278 <1300538278>
> +61 401 218 463 <+61401218463>
> +61 8 9382 8003 <+61893828003>
> andrew at levart.com.au
> www.levart.com.au
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
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From andrew at levart.com.au  Tue Mar 22 17:08:46 2022
From: andrew at levart.com.au (Andrew Simmonds)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 14:08:46 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
Message-ID: <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>

Just received a reply from the powers that be (auDA),

They are aware of the issue and are working on it.

Best Regards,

<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
*Levart*
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021 <#> 	p:
m:
f:
e:
w: 	1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au
www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/>

On 22/03/2022 1:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?
>
> Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down 
> especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.
>
> Cloudflare is giving errors such as:
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
> ; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)
>
> It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:
>
> https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au
>
> Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> <https://www.levart.com.au/>
> Andrew Simmonds
> Systems Development Manager
> *Levart*
> 1A/18 Gibberd Road
> Balcatta WA 6021 <#> 	p:
> m:
> f:
> e:
> w: 	1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
> +61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
> +61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
> andrew at levart.com.au
> www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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From pete at mac.geek.nz  Tue Mar 22 17:12:37 2022
From: pete at mac.geek.nz (Pete Mundy)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 19:12:37 +1300
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <6cad256b-ed8c-aab5-db6e-93044dcfd0fb@jetlan.com>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <18df8ec1-6706-6b29-872a-4e8177d9a68f@tncrew.com.au>
 <SYBPR01MB59343C2D9F944989E2972CA9D0179@SYBPR01MB5934.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>
 <6cacaac9-67a7-4345-952e-904b61b0f07b@www.fastmail.com>
 <6cad256b-ed8c-aab5-db6e-93044dcfd0fb@jetlan.com>
Message-ID: <2A112569-3116-4BCE-BE90-80E611B5F590@mac.geek.nz>


Ooo, Geoff's gonna love looking into this!

(Hi Geoff :)

> On 22/03/2022, at 6:59 PM, Mal <malz at jetlan.com> wrote:
> 
> But this one is:
> https://dnsviz.net/d/apnic.com.au/dnssec/

From chris.p.barnes at gmail.com  Tue Mar 22 17:13:45 2022
From: chris.p.barnes at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 17:13:45 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>
Message-ID: <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>

Umbrella is telling us the problem is resolved. Can you confirm through
AuDA Andrew?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:09, Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au> wrote:

> Just received a reply from the powers that be (auDA),
>
> They are aware of the issue and are working on it.
>
> Best Regards,
> <https://www.levart.com.au/>
> Andrew Simmonds
> Systems Development Manager
> *Levart*
> 1A/18 Gibberd Road
> Balcatta WA 6021 <#m_-2214405723309179352_> p:
> m:
> f:
> e:
> w: 1300 538 278 <1300538278>
> +61 401 218 463 <+61401218463>
> +61 8 9382 8003 <+61893828003>
> andrew at levart.com.au
> www.levart.com.au
> On 22/03/2022 1:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?
>
> Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down
> especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.
>
> Cloudflare is giving errors such as:
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
> ; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)
>
> It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:
>
> https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au
>
> Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.
>
> Best Regards,
> <https://www.levart.com.au/>
> Andrew Simmonds
> Systems Development Manager
> *Levart*
> 1A/18 Gibberd Road
> Balcatta WA 6021 <#m_-2214405723309179352_> p:
> m:
> f:
> e:
> w: 1300 538 278 <1300538278>
> +61 401 218 463 <+61401218463>
> +61 8 9382 8003 <+61893828003>
> andrew at levart.com.au
> www.levart.com.au
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing listAusNOG at ausnog.nethttps://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>


-- 
Kind Regards,

Christopher Barnes

e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
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From luke.t at tncrew.com.au  Tue Mar 22 17:22:50 2022
From: luke.t at tncrew.com.au (Luke Thompson)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 17:22:50 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>
 <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b8272150-0f1e-05b5-afcb-fe4219a50626@tncrew.com.au>

Services are coming back now. Thanks for the update.

It begs the question of where the .AU Status Page is...

Cheers,

Luke Thompson
Operations Manager

The Network Crew Pty Ltd
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au


On 22/3/22 5:13 pm, Chris Barnes wrote:
> Umbrella is telling us the problem is resolved. Can you confirm 
> through AuDA Andrew?
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:09, Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au> 
> wrote:
>
>     Just received a reply from the powers that be (auDA),
>
>     They are aware of the issue and are working on it.
>
>     Best Regards,
>
>     <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>     Andrew Simmonds
>     Systems Development Manager
>     *Levart*
>     1A/18 Gibberd Road
>     Balcatta WA 6021 <#m_-2214405723309179352_> 	p:
>     m:
>     f:
>     e:
>     w: 	1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
>     +61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
>     +61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
>     andrew at levart.com.au
>     www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>
>     On 22/03/2022 1:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:
>>
>>     Hi All,
>>
>>     Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?
>>
>>     Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains
>>     down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching
>>     resolvers etc.
>>
>>     Cloudflare is giving errors such as:
>>
>>     ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>>     ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
>>     ; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)
>>
>>     It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:
>>
>>     https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au
>>
>>     Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.
>>
>>     Best Regards,
>>
>>     <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>>     Andrew Simmonds
>>     Systems Development Manager
>>     *Levart*
>>     1A/18 Gibberd Road
>>     Balcatta WA 6021 <#m_-2214405723309179352_> 	p:
>>     m:
>>     f:
>>     e:
>>     w: 	1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
>>     +61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
>>     +61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
>>     andrew at levart.com.au
>>     www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>>
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     AusNOG mailing list
>>     AusNOG at ausnog.net
>>     https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>     _______________________________________________
>     AusNOG mailing list
>     AusNOG at ausnog.net
>     https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
>
>
> -- 
> Kind Regards,
>
> Christopher Barnes
>
> e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
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From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Tue Mar 22 17:22:54 2022
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 06:22:54 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>
 <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MEYP282MB252097DF471274765BFC92CBDB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

They may have a workaround but can confirm the root cause is not resolved.

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Chris Barnes
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 5:14 PM
To: Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au>
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken

Umbrella is telling us the problem is resolved. Can you confirm through AuDA Andrew?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:09, Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>> wrote:

Just received a reply from the powers that be (auDA),

They are aware of the issue and are working on it.

Best Regards,
[cid:image001.png at 01D83E11.75F36080]<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021
p:
m:
f:
e:
w:
1300 538 278<tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463<tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003<tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
www.levart.com.au<https://www.levart.com.au/>
On 22/03/2022 1:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:

Hi All,

Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?

Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.

Cloudflare is giving errors such as:

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)

It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au

Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.

Best Regards,
[cid:image001.png at 01D83E11.75F36080]<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021
p:
m:
f:
e:
w:
1300 538 278<tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463<tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003<tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
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From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Tue Mar 22 17:24:28 2022
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 06:24:28 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <MEYP282MB252097DF471274765BFC92CBDB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>
 <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <MEYP282MB252097DF471274765BFC92CBDB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <MEYP282MB2520E229F21F6F96D1C57DF8DB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I take that back ,just now they?ve started responding to requests!

Nathan Brookfield
General Manager

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From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Nathan Brookfield
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 5:23 PM
To: 'Chris Barnes' <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com>; 'Andrew Simmonds' <andrew at levart.com.au>
Cc: 'ausnog at ausnog.net' <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken

They may have a workaround but can confirm the root cause is not resolved.

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net>> On Behalf Of Chris Barnes
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 5:14 PM
To: Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>>
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken

Umbrella is telling us the problem is resolved. Can you confirm through AuDA Andrew?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:09, Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>> wrote:

Just received a reply from the powers that be (auDA),

They are aware of the issue and are working on it.

Best Regards,
[cid:image003.png at 01D83E11.ADB3FD90]<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021
p:
m:
f:
e:
w:
1300 538 278<tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463<tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003<tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
www.levart.com.au<https://www.levart.com.au/>
On 22/03/2022 1:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:

Hi All,

Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?

Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.

Cloudflare is giving errors such as:

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)

It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au

Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.

Best Regards,
[cid:image003.png at 01D83E11.ADB3FD90]<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021
p:
m:
f:
e:
w:
1300 538 278<tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463<tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003<tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
www.levart.com.au<https://www.levart.com.au/>


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From chris.p.barnes at gmail.com  Tue Mar 22 17:24:57 2022
From: chris.p.barnes at gmail.com (Chris Barnes)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 17:24:57 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <MEYP282MB252097DF471274765BFC92CBDB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>
 <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <MEYP282MB252097DF471274765BFC92CBDB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <CACTt9vmTmksb0vksxW+kyCyRamWTqN7AnVTwr25nn_aAJsAGjg@mail.gmail.com>

Brilliant, this is the answer I was looking for.

Thanks Brooky.

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:23, Nathan Brookfield <
Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> wrote:

> They may have a workaround but can confirm the root cause is not resolved.
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Chris Barnes
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2022 5:14 PM
> *To:* Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au>
> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
>
>
>
> Umbrella is telling us the problem is resolved. Can you confirm through
> AuDA Andrew?
>
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:09, Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> Just received a reply from the powers that be (auDA),
>
> They are aware of the issue and are working on it.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>
> Andrew Simmonds
> Systems Development Manager
> *Levart*
> 1A/18 Gibberd Road
> Balcatta WA 6021 <#m_8646272066089067195_m_-2214405723309179352_>
>
> p:
> m:
> f:
> e:
> w:
>
> 1300 538 278 <1300538278>
> +61 401 218 463 <+61401218463>
> +61 8 9382 8003 <+61893828003>
> andrew at levart.com.au
> www.levart.com.au
>
> On 22/03/2022 1:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?
>
> Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down
> especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.
>
> Cloudflare is giving errors such as:
>
> ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
> ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
> ; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)
>
> It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:
>
> https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au
>
> Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>
> Andrew Simmonds
> Systems Development Manager
> *Levart*
> 1A/18 Gibberd Road
> Balcatta WA 6021 <#m_8646272066089067195_m_-2214405723309179352_>
>
> p:
> m:
> f:
> e:
> w:
>
> 1300 538 278 <1300538278>
> +61 401 218 463 <+61401218463>
> +61 8 9382 8003 <+61893828003>
> andrew at levart.com.au
> www.levart.com.au
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
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>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Christopher Barnes
>
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>


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From woody at pch.net  Tue Mar 22 17:32:06 2022
From: woody at pch.net (Bill Woodcock)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 07:32:06 +0100
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <CACTt9vmTmksb0vksxW+kyCyRamWTqN7AnVTwr25nn_aAJsAGjg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>
 <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <MEYP282MB252097DF471274765BFC92CBDB179@MEYP282MB2520.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <CACTt9vmTmksb0vksxW+kyCyRamWTqN7AnVTwr25nn_aAJsAGjg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <15314607-7F49-4A5E-BBC1-5F8ABC676DB0@pch.net>

> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:23, Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> wrote:
> They may have a workaround but can confirm the root cause is not resolved.

It is now:

https://dnsviz.net/d/gov.au/YjlqwQ/dnssec/


                                -Bill

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From luke.t at tncrew.com.au  Tue Mar 22 17:44:28 2022
From: luke.t at tncrew.com.au (Luke Thompson)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 17:44:28 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <b8272150-0f1e-05b5-afcb-fe4219a50626@tncrew.com.au>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>
 <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <b8272150-0f1e-05b5-afcb-fe4219a50626@tncrew.com.au>
Message-ID: <a3a8500a-9ad1-7f8e-734c-b044427fd07d@tncrew.com.au>

We appear to be seeing a Return of the Removal of the RRSIGs...

Thoughts are with those working on it!

Cheers,

Luke Thompson
Operations Manager

The Network Crew Pty Ltd
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au


On 22/3/22 5:22 pm, Luke Thompson wrote:
>
> Services are coming back now. Thanks for the update.
>
> It begs the question of where the .AU Status Page is...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luke Thompson
> Operations Manager
>
> The Network Crew Pty Ltd
> https://thenetworkcrew.com.au
>
>
> On 22/3/22 5:13 pm, Chris Barnes wrote:
>> Umbrella is telling us the problem is resolved. Can you confirm 
>> through AuDA Andrew?
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:09, Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>     Just received a reply from the powers that be (auDA),
>>
>>     They are aware of the issue and are working on it.
>>
>>     Best Regards,
>>
>>     <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>>     Andrew Simmonds
>>     Systems Development Manager
>>     *Levart*
>>     1A/18 Gibberd Road
>>     Balcatta WA 6021 <#m_-2214405723309179352_> 	p:
>>     m:
>>     f:
>>     e:
>>     w: 	1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
>>     +61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
>>     +61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
>>     andrew at levart.com.au
>>     www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>>
>>     On 22/03/2022 1:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi All,
>>>
>>>     Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?
>>>
>>>     Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains
>>>     down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching
>>>     resolvers etc.
>>>
>>>     Cloudflare is giving errors such as:
>>>
>>>     ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
>>>     ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
>>>     ; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)
>>>
>>>     It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:
>>>
>>>     https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au
>>>
>>>     Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.
>>>
>>>     Best Regards,
>>>
>>>     <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>>>     Andrew Simmonds
>>>     Systems Development Manager
>>>     *Levart*
>>>     1A/18 Gibberd Road
>>>     Balcatta WA 6021 <#m_-2214405723309179352_> 	p:
>>>     m:
>>>     f:
>>>     e:
>>>     w: 	1300 538 278 <tel:1300538278>
>>>     +61 401 218 463 <tel:+61401218463>
>>>     +61 8 9382 8003 <tel:+61893828003>
>>>     andrew at levart.com.au
>>>     www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/>
>>>
>>>
>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>     AusNOG mailing list
>>>     AusNOG at ausnog.net
>>>     https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     AusNOG mailing list
>>     AusNOG at ausnog.net
>>     https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Christopher Barnes
>>
>> e. chris.p.barnes at gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au  Tue Mar 22 18:15:54 2022
From: Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au (Nathan Brookfield)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 07:15:54 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <a3a8500a-9ad1-7f8e-734c-b044427fd07d@tncrew.com.au>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au>
 <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au>
 <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <b8272150-0f1e-05b5-afcb-fe4219a50626@tncrew.com.au>
 <a3a8500a-9ad1-7f8e-734c-b044427fd07d@tncrew.com.au>
Message-ID: <ED8AD1BB-48B2-4D1E-8FB8-8FFE1075CEFB@iperium.com.au>

Flapping like a bird? No way in the hell it?s a coincidence that .au goes live in just over 40 hours!

On 22 Mar 2022, at 17:44, Luke Thompson <luke.t at tncrew.com.au> wrote:

?

We appear to be seeing a Return of the Removal of the RRSIGs...

Thoughts are with those working on it!

Cheers,

Luke Thompson
Operations Manager

The Network Crew Pty Ltd
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au


On 22/3/22 5:22 pm, Luke Thompson wrote:

Services are coming back now. Thanks for the update.

It begs the question of where the .AU Status Page is...

Cheers,

Luke Thompson
Operations Manager

The Network Crew Pty Ltd
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au


On 22/3/22 5:13 pm, Chris Barnes wrote:
Umbrella is telling us the problem is resolved. Can you confirm through AuDA Andrew?

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:09, Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>> wrote:

Just received a reply from the powers that be (auDA),

They are aware of the issue and are working on it.

Best Regards,

[cid:part1.i9qrPWVS.zyloDSSO at tncrew.com.au]<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021        p:
m:
f:
e:
w:      1300 538 278<tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463<tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003<tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
www.levart.com.au<https://www.levart.com.au/>
On 22/03/2022 1:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:

Hi All,

Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?

Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.

Cloudflare is giving errors such as:

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)

It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au

Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.

Best Regards,

[cid:part1.i9qrPWVS.zyloDSSO at tncrew.com.au]<https://www.levart.com.au/>
Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021        p:
m:
f:
e:
w:      1300 538 278<tel:1300538278>
+61 401 218 463<tel:+61401218463>
+61 8 9382 8003<tel:+61893828003>
andrew at levart.com.au<mailto:andrew at levart.com.au>
www.levart.com.au<https://www.levart.com.au/>



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From nick at nickbrown.id.au  Tue Mar 22 18:54:17 2022
From: nick at nickbrown.id.au (=?UTF-8?Q?Nick_Brown?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 07:54:17 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken
In-Reply-To: <ED8AD1BB-48B2-4D1E-8FB8-8FFE1075CEFB@iperium.com.au>
References: <78da1c3c-88d5-bd13-3b2e-6ef8e64dc370@levart.com.au> 
 <be572d43-e104-8907-59da-6b7242697add@levart.com.au> 
 <CACTt9vkpVzNHQaU_LKDBwMEJ=3oM6i7L410CFspZJATx-DwukQ@mail.gmail.com> 
 <b8272150-0f1e-05b5-afcb-fe4219a50626@tncrew.com.au> 
 <a3a8500a-9ad1-7f8e-734c-b044427fd07d@tncrew.com.au> 
 <ED8AD1BB-48B2-4D1E-8FB8-8FFE1075CEFB@iperium.com.au> 
 <D8A76477-EDC0-42F2-A2AA-FFBB8FA455F5@nickbrown.id.au>
Message-ID: <0101017fb09e94cd-4a973354-2db7-49c2-bbbb-d027e163c1fc-000000@us-west-2.amazonses.com>

If only the namespace was operated by some kind of Aus Registry.?

?
?
From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
Date: Tuesday, 22 March 2022 at 6:16 pm
To: Luke Thompson <luke.t at tncrew.com.au>
Cc: "ausnog at ausnog.net" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] .AU DNSSEC Broken

?
Flapping like a bird? No way in the hell it?s a coincidence that .au goes live in just over 40 hours!

On 22 Mar 2022, at 17:44, Luke Thompson <luke.t at tncrew.com.au> wrote:

?
We appear to be seeing a Return of the Removal of the RRSIGs...

Thoughts are with those working on it!

Cheers,

Luke Thompson 
Operations Manager 

The Network Crew Pty Ltd 
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au <https://thenetworkcrew.com.au> 


On 22/3/22 5:22 pm, Luke Thompson wrote:

Services are coming back now. Thanks for the update.

It begs the question of where the .AU Status Page is...

Cheers,

Luke Thompson 
Operations Manager 

The Network Crew Pty Ltd 
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au <https://thenetworkcrew.com.au> 


On 22/3/22 5:13 pm, Chris Barnes wrote:

Umbrella is telling us the problem is resolved. Can you confirm through AuDA Andrew?

?
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 17:09, Andrew Simmonds <andrew at levart.com.au <mailto:andrew at levart.com.au> > wrote:

Just received a reply from the powers that be (auDA),

They are aware of the issue and are working on it.

Best Regards,

 <https://www.levart.com.au/> 

Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021 

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	1300 538 278
+61 401 218 463
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andrew at levart.com.au <mailto:andrew at levart.com.au> 
www.levart.com.au <https://www.levart.com.au/> 

On 22/03/2022 1:41 pm, Andrew Simmonds wrote:

Hi All,

Anyone notice DNS chucking a wobbly from about 1pm Perth time today?

Seems to be bringing a whole bunch of our customer .au domains down especially clients using the Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 caching resolvers etc.

Cloudflare is giving errors such as:

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
; EDE: 10 (RRSIGs Missing): (for DNSKEY au., id = 34882)

It seems .AU may be missing RRSIG records:

https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au <https://dnssec-analyzer.verisignlabs.com/gov.au> 

Hopefully the powers that be are already aware of this.

Best Regards,

 <https://www.levart.com.au/> 

Andrew Simmonds
Systems Development Manager
Levart
1A/18 Gibberd Road
Balcatta WA 6021 

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	1300 538 278
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From dmatacz at cloudflare.com  Tue Mar 22 20:14:21 2022
From: dmatacz at cloudflare.com (Damian Matacz)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 17:14:21 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] AusNOG 2021 Ticket
Message-ID: <CAKZFBVzxCZFWcEqxcSuC0Kz-bj8ZdTyFkDOMZ4cYffa4CLQ-Zw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

If anyone has purchased a ticket for AusNOG and is no longer able to attend
can you please contact me off-list?  I'm keen to attend but wasn't able to
secure a ticket.

Thanks,

Damian
-- 

*Damian Matacz* | Network Strategy
+61 401 042 426
20 Martin Pl, North Sydney NSW 2000

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From save.vocea at icann.org  Wed Mar 23 09:12:26 2022
From: save.vocea at icann.org (Save Vocea)
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 22:12:26 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Invitation to join APAC DNS Forum next week
Message-ID: <345AF801-C118-4CD8-8190-331BB9320F71@icann.org>

Dear NOG list members,

The APAC DNS Forum will take place next week from Wed 30 Mar to Fri 1 Apr 2022. Everyone is welcomed to this virtual Forum co-organised by ICANN and MYNIC. It will feature a broad range of technical, security, industry, and other topics about the DNS specially tailored for the APAC region.

Please ensure you register [apacdnsforum.my]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/apacdnsforum.my/virtual/reg/__;!!PtGJab4!rsDjUiTI7rTcD1rtEL8ohPxkYfYt_r--zlR17jRsPRqPqgVZre1zEsPiL0B_61C35d6MAgM$> to access the virtual event platform and join sessions you would like to attend. Some highlights to mark your calendars for are:


  1.  Future of the DNS (30 Mar, 0100-0230 UTC) ? Featuring speakers like ICANN CEO G?ran Marby, APNIC Chief Scientist Geoff Huston, and Donuts Chief Strategy Officer Ram Mohan, join them on where they think the DNS is headed and the challenges they see.
  2.  On DNS abuse and collaboration avenues
     *   Establishing a Trusted Notifier Mechanism to Fight DNS Abuse (30 Mar, 0815-0915 UTC) ? A DotAsia-TWNIC collaboration against phishing.
     *   Globalising Efforts to Mitigate DNS Abuse (31 Mar, 0200-0300 UTC) ? Led by DNS Abuse Institute?s Graeme Bunton on the state of abuse and regional speakers will share local experiences in APAC.
  3.  Being a Registrant ? Things to Note (31 Mar, 0315-0415 UTC) ? Know registrant rights and responsibilities, and steps to protect your domain name. This session features our ICANN Chief Innovation and Information Officer Ashwin Rangan.
  4.  What?s Next for IDN Variants? (30 Mar, 0400-0530 UTC) ? Find out about ongoing IDN variant discussions and next steps for gTLDs and ccTLDs. Know the challenges from policy, manageability, and usability perspectives.

Check out more details on the event website: https://apacdnsforum.my/ [apacdnsforum.my]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/apacdnsforum.my/__;!!PtGJab4!rsDjUiTI7rTcD1rtEL8ohPxkYfYt_r--zlR17jRsPRqPqgVZre1zEsPiL0B_61C3HSeaRDU$>. Thank you very much and see you there!

Kind regards,
Save

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From ssarkis at unitedip.net.au  Wed Mar 23 15:43:03 2022
From: ssarkis at unitedip.net.au (Sam Sarkis-UIP)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 04:43:03 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] remote hands in Collingwood heights, WA
Message-ID: <b2300d0f944345a4bb861ca36368f1bb@unitedip.net.au>

Hi All,

Is there anyone available or able to recommend anyone in
Collingwood heights, WA   to attend site and be remote hands to assist in a firewall cutover.

We had someone else booked but typical Covid having us change plans.


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From paul at vitaldata.net  Wed Mar 23 17:35:42 2022
From: paul at vitaldata.net (Paul Willis)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 17:05:42 +1030
Subject: [AusNOG] remote hands in Collingwood heights, WA
In-Reply-To: <b2300d0f944345a4bb861ca36368f1bb@unitedip.net.au>
References: <b2300d0f944345a4bb861ca36368f1bb@unitedip.net.au>
Message-ID: <86942C3F-03BD-461A-BC37-403DF10BC90C@vitaldata.net>

I have a guy over there that I sometimes use for desktop support from my customers he seems pretty good and has been able to follow detailed instructions without any issues.

I?m not sure what his availability is like at the moment but I can check.

> On 23 Mar 2022, at 3:13 pm, Sam Sarkis-UIP <ssarkis at unitedip.net.au> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi All,
>  
> Is there anyone available or able to recommend anyone in
> Collingwood heights, WA   to attend site and be remote hands to assist in a firewall cutover.
>  
> We had someone else booked but typical Covid having us change plans.
>  
>  
> Thanks
>  
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From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au  Wed Mar 23 17:48:28 2022
From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 06:48:28 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] Secondary Transit provider at SY4 and ME1
Message-ID: <d73b94a7471547a2b3d7c7aae72a105d@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>

Afternoon,

We are looking for a new secondary transit provider at SY4 and ME1.

10G ports with a combination of commit and burst, ideally something we can adjust as required.

Service must be rock solid with good AU routes, path redundancy, meaningful SLAs and people who know how to support it.

This includes being able to fix routes between Sydney, Melbourne and Singapore when they are broken or not optimal.

Happy to talk with providers who can help.

Many thanks


Darren.
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From jenn at jenn.id.au  Wed Mar 23 17:54:40 2022
From: jenn at jenn.id.au (Jennifer Sims)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 17:54:40 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] Secondary Transit provider at SY4 and ME1
In-Reply-To: <d73b94a7471547a2b3d7c7aae72a105d@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
References: <d73b94a7471547a2b3d7c7aae72a105d@mbx05.ap.myhostedexchange.email>
Message-ID: <CA+k2KW3ZZ_KdQNfPcsOS+oEqKMGx_Gc59=ODE9sSmCKX00m5pQ@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure if its worth talking to the likes of ABB who have a presence in
most major DCs these days, especially now with their own fibre network?

[yes I'm a former footsoldier of ABB, however I look at your "Service must
be '' comments and it pretty much meets those requirements if its something
you can buy from their enterprise sales team].

On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 5:48 PM Darren Moss <Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au>
wrote:

> Afternoon,
>
>
>
> We are looking for a new secondary transit provider at SY4 and ME1.
>
>
>
> 10G ports with a combination of commit and burst, ideally something we can
> adjust as required.
>
>
>
> Service must be rock solid with good AU routes, path redundancy,
> meaningful SLAs and people who know how to support it.
>
>
>
> This includes being able to fix routes between Sydney, Melbourne and
> Singapore when they are broken or not optimal.
>
>
>
> Happy to talk with providers who can help.
>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> Darren.
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From david.dawson at apnic.net  Thu Mar 24 11:41:59 2022
From: david.dawson at apnic.net (David Dawson)
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 00:41:59 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] ISIF Asia 2022 grants open for applications
Message-ID: <SY4P282MB3732B7CE5F29FCEB41E7F9928E199@SY4P282MB3732.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi AUSNOG folks,

I just wanted to draw your attention to some grants on offer for
organizations working on Internet development in the Asia Pacific.
Projects can range from Internet infrastructure, to research, to
upskilling and helping communities be able to access the Internet.
Grants are between USD 30k and 150k, and there are a wide variety
of organizations that can apply.

We've had some great applications from Australia in previous years,

including an interesting project in 2021 connecting a remote Northern

Territory community.

Applications close May 15.

This year there are also grants for issues related to the
environmental impact of the Internet. More details and links below.

Thanks!
David Dawson
Senior Communications Coordinator | APNIC Foundation
david.dawson at apnic.net<mailto:david.dawson at apnic.net>

https://apnic.foundation/
https://isif.asia/

________________________________________________________________________



ISIF Asia 2022 grants open for applications

________________________________________________________________________



Applications are now open for the 2022 Information Society Innovation

Fund (ISIF Asia) grants cycle.



ISIF Asia empowers organizations across the Asia Pacific region

to research, design, and implement Internet-based solutions to solve

Internet development challenges that support community development and

growth.



Applications are open to public and private sector organizations,

academia, non-profits, and social enterprise organizations.



There are three thematic areas:



    -Inclusion: Initiatives that help ensure everyone has meaningful

    access to the Internet, online applications and services

    -Infrastructure: Initiatives to increase Internet speed, reduce

    maintenance and operational costs, and improve reliability and/or

    security

    -Knowledge: Initiatives that develop technical capacity and/or

    research around Internet network operations for technical and

    non-technical audiences



In 2022, ISIF Asia will also include grants across all three programs

to support innovative solutions to the environmental impact of the

Internet. The Ian Peter Grants for Internet and the Environment will

be made to commemorate the life and work of Ian Peter, Internet pioneer

and environmental activist.



    https://isif.asia/ian-peter-grants/



In addition, three small grants (USD 30,000 each) will be made available

across any program area to economies that have not previously received

ISIF Asia grants. A full list of economies that ISIF Asia has supported

is available at ISIF Asia.



    https://isif.asia/about-isif-asia/



Applications are open now until 15 May 2022 at 11:59 AM (UTC +10). For

application and selection criteria please familiarize yourself with the

Funding Portal, where you will be able to submit your application.



    https://isif.asia/apply/



ISIF Asia's IPv6 deployment grants remain open until funds are exhausted.



    https://isif.asia/infrastructure-ipv6/

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From joe at apcs.com.au  Mon Mar 28 08:56:21 2022
From: joe at apcs.com.au (Joseph Goldman)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 21:56:21 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] 7473 & 7474 contact
Message-ID: <em164c8c45-8c9b-488a-9295-b276933b6ba7@desktop-m708amf>

G'day list

  Is there a good communication channel for 'singtel' as a whole, i.e. 
some kind of NOC who has investigative authority into both 7473 and 
7474?

  I'm having a weird BGP issue where I 'believe' 7473 is holding a route 
that 7474 have withdrawn, and is screwing up BGP failover. 7474 
route-views server shows correct route but all LG's out in the world 
show a path via 7473 to 7474 still active (and loops around).
  Given they are 1 'conglomerate', I was hoping there's a way I could get 
it investigated without being pushed between 2 NOCs with blame shifting.

Thanks,
Joe
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From Bill.Walker2 at stantec.com  Mon Mar 28 09:07:36 2022
From: Bill.Walker2 at stantec.com (Walker, Bill (Christchurch))
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 22:07:36 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] 7473 & 7474 contact
In-Reply-To: <em164c8c45-8c9b-488a-9295-b276933b6ba7@desktop-m708amf>
References: <em164c8c45-8c9b-488a-9295-b276933b6ba7@desktop-m708amf>
Message-ID: <BY3PR06MB8147F9E85D85A8640B860A4CDE1C9@BY3PR06MB8147.namprd06.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Joe,

Did you try going through the front door? noc at singtel.com<mailto:noc at singtel.com> and noc at optus.com.au<mailto:noc at optus.com.au>?

Thanks,

Bill

Bill Walker | Manager, Regional Managed Operations | Stantec | Mobile: +64 21 241 7206


From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Joseph Goldman
Sent: Monday, 28 March 2022 10:56 am
To: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] 7473 & 7474 contact

G'day list

 Is there a good communication channel for 'singtel' as a whole, i.e. some kind of NOC who has investigative authority into both 7473 and 7474?

 I'm having a weird BGP issue where I 'believe' 7473 is holding a route that 7474 have withdrawn, and is screwing up BGP failover. 7474 route-views server shows correct route but all LG's out in the world show a path via 7473 to 7474 still active (and loops around).
 Given they are 1 'conglomerate', I was hoping there's a way I could get it investigated without being pushed between 2 NOCs with blame shifting.

Thanks,
Joe
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From tim.jones at nexthop.com.au  Mon Mar 28 09:27:05 2022
From: tim.jones at nexthop.com.au (Tim Jones)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 22:27:05 +0000
Subject: [AusNOG] 7473 & 7474 contact
In-Reply-To: <em164c8c45-8c9b-488a-9295-b276933b6ba7@desktop-m708amf>
References: <em164c8c45-8c9b-488a-9295-b276933b6ba7@desktop-m708amf>
Message-ID: <SYYP282MB1230101CF5334DAC087CB962DC1C9@SYYP282MB1230.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi Joe,

All thing Optus routing go through their vendor now. They have transferred issues to Singtel for me before:

routing at nka.optusvendor.com.au

YMMV.

Cheers,
Tim


From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net> on behalf of Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au>
Date: Monday, 28 March 2022 at 8:57 am
To: ausnog at ausnog.net <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: [AusNOG] 7473 & 7474 contact
G'day list

 Is there a good communication channel for 'singtel' as a whole, i.e. some kind of NOC who has investigative authority into both 7473 and 7474?

 I'm having a weird BGP issue where I 'believe' 7473 is holding a route that 7474 have withdrawn, and is screwing up BGP failover. 7474 route-views server shows correct route but all LG's out in the world show a path via 7473 to 7474 still active (and loops around).
 Given they are 1 'conglomerate', I was hoping there's a way I could get it investigated without being pushed between 2 NOCs with blame shifting.

Thanks,
Joe

Tim Jones|Sales Director
T:(02) 9011 1778M:0423 293 243
E:tim.jones at nexthop.com.au
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From ausnog at libertysys.com.au  Wed Mar 30 10:48:04 2022
From: ausnog at libertysys.com.au (Paul Gear)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:48:04 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] IPv6 between Internode and Amazon
Message-ID: <8fecdb39-2825-8323-cfb8-50f174996fb7@libertysys.com.au>

Hi all,

Does anyone know anything about the situation with broken IPv6 routing 
between Internode and Amazon?? It has been ongoing for over a week, and 
I've had no luck going through the front door of business support to get 
answers.

Thanks,
Paul


From xrobau at gmail.com  Wed Mar 30 11:41:22 2022
From: xrobau at gmail.com (Rob Thomas)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:41:22 +1000
Subject: [AusNOG] IPv6 between Internode and Amazon
In-Reply-To: <8fecdb39-2825-8323-cfb8-50f174996fb7@libertysys.com.au>
References: <8fecdb39-2825-8323-cfb8-50f174996fb7@libertysys.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAC5zRjMjgFgFJ_8KY3Ym4K1t+9QawvNVQjszkwenys8J8qFN0A@mail.gmail.com>

I had a quick chat with Paul, and it looks like either Amazon are not
accepting AS7545's (TPG) announcements of 2407:8800::/32, or TPG isn't
sending it to them.

   2.|-- 2407:8800:bf00:174:aec:f5ff:fe27:f292  0.0%    10 7.5  10.0
7.5  17.2   3.0
   3.|-- 2407:8800:a000:2000::5d5               0.0%    10 19.0
24.819.0  33.6   4.2
   4.|-- 2407:8800:bf00:7a:7ef8:80ff:feca:5cdb  0.0%    10 18.8
19.418.8  20.4   0.5
   5.|-- ???                                   100.0    10 0.0   0.0
0.0   0.0   0.0

Hop 5 should be AS15169 you would assume.  I can get there perfectly
happily via 1221, so it feels like a TPG issue to me!

--Rob


On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 09:48, Paul Gear <ausnog at libertysys.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know anything about the situation with broken IPv6 routing
> between Internode and Amazon?  It has been ongoing for over a week, and
> I've had no luck going through the front door of business support to get
> answers.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

From diosbejgli at gmail.com  Wed Mar 30 12:06:12 2022
From: diosbejgli at gmail.com (Andras Toth)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:06:12 +1100
Subject: [AusNOG] IPv6 between Internode and Amazon
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Greetings,

Amazon (AS16509) here, I've checked and we're accepting 2407:8800::/32 and
other more specific routes from the same range from AS7545 directly and
they are the best path.

Can someone please clarify what's the issue, and source and destination IPs
that you seem to have issues with? A full traceroute would be beneficial
too.

Thanks,
Andras


On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 11:41 AM Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had a quick chat with Paul, and it looks like either Amazon are not
> accepting AS7545's (TPG) announcements of 2407:8800::/32, or TPG isn't
> sending it to them.
>
>    2.|-- 2407:8800:bf00:174:aec:f5ff:fe27:f292  0.0%    10 7.5  10.0
> 7.5  17.2   3.0
>    3.|-- 2407:8800:a000:2000::5d5               0.0%    10 19.0
> 24.819.0  33.6   4.2
>    4.|-- 2407:8800:bf00:7a:7ef8:80ff:feca:5cdb  0.0%    10 18.8
> 19.418.8  20.4   0.5
>    5.|-- ???                                   100.0    10 0.0   0.0
> 0.0   0.0   0.0
>
> Hop 5 should be AS15169 you would assume.  I can get there perfectly
> happily via 1221, so it feels like a TPG issue to me!
>
> --Rob
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 09:48, Paul Gear <ausnog at libertysys.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Does anyone know anything about the situation with broken IPv6 routing
> > between Internode and Amazon?  It has been ongoing for over a week, and
> > I've had no luck going through the front door of business support to get
> > answers.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Paul
> >
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From joe at slampt.net  Thu Mar 31 14:37:19 2022
From: joe at slampt.net (Joe)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 11:37:19 +0800
Subject: [AusNOG] AUSNOG 2021 (not a typo) Lightning Talks
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Hey All, 

AUSNOG is next week and we have an hour at the end of Day 1 allocated to Lightning talks.
If you have something interesting to talk about and you think you can condense it into 5 minutes then let me know.
Slides are totally optional, if you choose to use slides please try to limit it to 2.

Cheers
Joe