From chen.lin at telemars.com.au Wed Feb 2 00:46:46 2022 From: chen.lin at telemars.com.au (Chen Lin) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:46:46 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] EOI for a free training opportunity - offered by TeleMARS - supported by APINIC Foundation Message-ID: Hello everyone, TeleMARS has initiated a brand-new training project on Network Data Analysis for Artificial Intelligence (AI) transformation. This project is supported by APINIC Foundation. It offers opportunities to Network Operations professionals to upskill in the subject of Network Data Analysis for AI Transformation at no cost. The introduction of this training project is enclosed for your review. If you have interest in the implementation of AI technologies or AIOps, we sincerely invite you to express your interest and provide feedback through this online form. Please feel free to ask any questions or provide feedback by sending emails to chen.lin at telemars.com.au. We appreciate your time and attention. 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We have put together a new Programme Committee comprising of the following folks: - Tashi from APNIC - Jocelyn from Amazon - Andrew from Khoo - Myself (Joe) EdgeIX We are currently going through the current submissions to ensure that presenters are able to present on the above dates. That said we would also like to give the opportunity for anyone else that was thinking about presenting but didn?t submit anything the first time around. Now is the chance to do this! If you are able to attend this AusNOG and want to talk about something happening in your world (NOG relevant of course) please send an email to programme at ausnog.net with the following info: Name Email Affiliation (if any) Presentation Title Abstract Slides would be great, if you already have a presentation ready to go otherwise we will request these a couple of weeks prior to the conference. Feel free to ping me if you have any questions. 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If you have interest in the implementation of AI technologies or AIOps, we sincerely invite you to express your interest and provide feedback through this online form. Please feel free to ask any questions or provide feedback by sending emails to chen.lin at telemars.com.au. We appreciate your time and attention. Kind Regards, Chen Lin Solution Architect chen.lin at telemars.com.au TeleMARS www.telemars.com.au 0413 715 632 [cid:5392cbab-232f-49b1-8b7a-3ffa4d475fbc] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook-5vv2yufy.png Type: image/png Size: 33694 bytes Desc: Outlook-5vv2yufy.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Inferred improvements during Jan 2022: none inferred Source Address Validation issues inferred during Jan 2022: ASN Name First-Spoofed Last-Spoofed 45671 AS45671-NET-AU 2020-08-18 2022-01-29 Further information for these tests where we received spoofed packets is available at: https://spoofer.caida.org/recent_tests.php?country_include=aus&no_block=1 Please send any feedback or suggestions to spoofer-info at caida.org From rahul at technowand.com.au Thu Feb 10 07:42:51 2022 From: rahul at technowand.com.au (Rahul Chawla) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 06:42:51 +1000 Subject: [AusNOG] Fixed wireless in Yarrabah Message-ID: Hello all, We have a customer in Yarrabah with an unreliable NBN Skymuster and hoping if there is a fixed wireless provider in the area please. Replies off-list please. 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Regards, ?- Guy -- Guy Ellis Mobile +61 419 398 234 AU 03 9489 6678 NZ 09 884 9756 www.traverse.com.au From matt at spectrum.com.au Fri Feb 11 15:52:51 2022 From: matt at spectrum.com.au (Matt Perkins) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 15:52:51 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] GSU Sydney Power isuse Message-ID: <29178b5f-c94f-9c79-43e8-a3795d95d9fa@spectrum.com.au> FYI, ?Looks to be some major power mojo going down at GSU Ultimo. started about 3.04 local. -- /* Matt Perkins Direct 02 8916 8101 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd. Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au ABN 66 090 112 913 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000 */ From Scott.McInness at datacom.com.au Fri Feb 11 16:19:51 2022 From: Scott.McInness at datacom.com.au (Scott McInness) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 05:19:51 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] GSU Sydney Power isuse In-Reply-To: <29178b5f-c94f-9c79-43e8-a3795d95d9fa@spectrum.com.au> References: <29178b5f-c94f-9c79-43e8-a3795d95d9fa@spectrum.com.au> Message-ID: Vocus just advised of a major incident related to a possible power issue in Ultimo. -----Original Message----- From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Matt Perkins Sent: Friday, 11 February 2022 3:23 PM To: ausnog mailing list Subject: [AusNOG] GSU Sydney Power isuse FYI, ?Looks to be some major power mojo going down at GSU Ultimo. started about 3.04 local. -- /* Matt Perkins Direct 02 8916 8101 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd. Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au ABN 66 090 112 913 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000 */ _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG at ausnog.net https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ausnog.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fausnog&data=04%7C01%7Cscott.mcinness%40datacom.com.au%7Cf30b6965e00844e5789c08d9ed1a71a9%7C866c7a4c8a594bd3ad9f8512a581efc0%7C0%7C0%7C637801520657632572%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=vcXbWQIA%2BNXHS61KVQjQX8GlUEqAdyBSVoCdOOZcBDQ%3D&reserved=0 From shah.hardik at techflow.com.au Fri Feb 11 16:30:07 2022 From: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au (Shah Hardik) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 05:30:07 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] GSU Sydney Power isuse In-Reply-To: References: <29178b5f-c94f-9c79-43e8-a3795d95d9fa@spectrum.com.au> Message-ID: We have a few cages in there on Level 2 and 4 and we are not impacted. I know GS is undergoing a planned 5 yearly maintenance on PDUs sequentially so and there was a notification we received last month alerting that during the maintenance one of the feeds would be brought down - reducing the redundancy from N+1 to N - so equipment connected to single PDU may see power failure. Fingers crossed though! Shah Best regards, Shah Hardik Director Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366 Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009 Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au ( shah.hardik at techflow.com.au ) | www.techflow.com.au ( http://t.sidekickopen05.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XZsd7g2vW6442zv2BF-FPW7fRL1x56dRC4d5gLDT02?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techflow.com.au%2F&si=5046652182331392&pi=0b9b55a6-b67f-4bdb-bc52-508bd86a1dbf ) Sent via Superhuman ( https://sprh.mn/?vip=shah.hardik at techflow.com.au ) On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 4:19 PM, Scott McInness < Scott.McInness at datacom.com.au > wrote: > > > > Vocus just advised of a major incident related to a possible power issue > in Ultimo. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AusNOG < ausnog-bounces@ ausnog. net ( ausnog-bounces at ausnog.net ) > > On Behalf Of Matt Perkins Sent: Friday, 11 February 2022 3:23 PM > To: ausnog mailing list < ausnog@ lists. ausnog. net ( > ausnog at lists.ausnog.net ) > Subject: [AusNOG] GSU Sydney Power isuse > > > > FYI, > > > > Looks to be some major power mojo going down at GSU Ultimo. started about > 3.04 local. > > > > -- > /* Matt Perkins > Direct 02 8916 8101 Spectrum Networks Ptd. 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Office 1300 133 299 >> matt at spectrum.com.au >> ABN 66 090 112 913 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney >> >> 2000 >> */ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG at ausnog.net >> >> https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ausnog.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fausnog&data=04%7C01%7Cscott.mcinness%40datacom.com.au%7Cf30b6965e00844e5789c08d9ed1a71a9%7C866c7a4c8a594bd3ad9f8512a581efc0%7C0%7C0%7C637801520657632572%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=vcXbWQIA%2BNXHS61KVQjQX8GlUEqAdyBSVoCdOOZcBDQ%3D&reserved=0 >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG at ausnog.net >> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -- Edward Um Mobile: +61 449 051 894 Sent on the run! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I know GS is undergoing a planned 5 yearly maintenance on PDUs sequentially so and there was a notification we received last month alerting that during the maintenance one of the feeds would be brought down - reducing the redundancy from N+1 to N - so equipment connected to single PDU may see power failure. Fingers crossed though! Shah Best regards, Shah Hardik Director Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366 Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009 Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au | www.techflow.com.au Sent via Superhuman On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 4:19 PM, Scott McInness > wrote: Vocus just advised of a major incident related to a possible power issue in Ultimo. -----Original Message----- From: AusNOG > On Behalf Of Matt Perkins Sent: Friday, 11 February 2022 3:23 PM To: ausnog mailing list > Subject: [AusNOG] GSU Sydney Power isuse FYI, Looks to be some major power mojo going down at GSU Ultimo. started about 3.04 local. -- /* Matt Perkins Direct 02 8916 8101 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd. Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au ABN 66 090 112 913 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000 */ _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG at ausnog.net https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.ausnog.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fausnog&data=04%7C01%7Cscott.mcinness%40datacom.com.au%7Cf30b6965e00844e5789c08d9ed1a71a9%7C866c7a4c8a594bd3ad9f8512a581efc0%7C0%7C0%7C637801520657632572%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=vcXbWQIA%2BNXHS61KVQjQX8GlUEqAdyBSVoCdOOZcBDQ%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG at ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG at ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Edward Um Mobile: +61 449 051 894 Sent on the run! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt at spectrum.com.au Fri Feb 11 17:27:07 2022 From: matt at spectrum.com.au (Matt Perkins) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2022 17:27:07 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] GSU Sydney Power isuse In-Reply-To: <4cad8b00-3e51-4b75-a1e8-d1a5ac6970df@datacom.com.au> References: <29178b5f-c94f-9c79-43e8-a3795d95d9fa@spectrum.com.au> <4cad8b00-3e51-4b75-a1e8-d1a5ac6970df@datacom.com.au> Message-ID: <2425c2c4-3351-f9e7-943e-f34ed4949460@spectrum.com.au> Yes restored a little while ago. GSU suffered a failure of all the adjacent floor changeover switches on the B rail the way i understand it. Matt On 11/2/2022 4:58 pm, Scott McInness wrote: > Update from Vocus 10 minutes ago, that power has been restored and > services should be as well. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Edward Um > *Sent:* Friday, 11 February 2022 4:08 pm > *To:* Shah Hardik > *Cc:* Scott McInness; ausnog mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] GSU Sydney Power isuse > > We are on level 4, and are affected by this outage > Friendly note: elevators are not working and people are stuck in the > lobby and cannot get up to their racks unless escorted via stairs > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 at 4:30 pm, Shah Hardik > wrote: > > We have a few cages in there on Level 2 and 4 and we are not impacted. > > I know GS is undergoing a planned 5 yearly maintenance on PDUs > sequentially so and there was a notification we received last > month alerting that during the maintenance one of the feeds would > be brought down - reducing the redundancy from N+1 to N - so > equipment connected to single PDU may see power failure. > > Fingers crossed though! > > Shah > > > Best regards, > > Shah Hardik > > Director > > Office: 1300 954 955 | Mobile: 0433 90 6366 > > Suite 17, Level 3, 55 Pyrmont Bridge Road, Pyrmont - 2009 > > > Email: shah.hardik at techflow.com.au > | www.techflow.com.au > > > > > Sent via Superhuman > > > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 4:19 PM, Scott McInness > wrote: > > Vocus just advised of a major incident related to a possible > power issue in Ultimo. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Matt > Perkins Sent: Friday, 11 February 2022 3:23 PM > To: ausnog mailing list Subject: > [AusNOG] GSU Sydney Power isuse > > FYI, > > ?Looks to be some major power mojo going down at GSU Ultimo. > started about 3.04 local. > > -- > /* Matt Perkins > Direct 02 8916 8101 Spectrum Networks Ptd. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > On 10 Feb 2022, at 7:42 am, Rahul Chawla wrote: > > Hello all, > > We have a customer in Yarrabah with an unreliable NBN Skymuster and hoping if there is a fixed wireless provider in the area please. > > Replies off-list please. > > Rahul Chawla > Operations > Technowand > > 1300 176 453 | 0413 698 818 > rahul at technowand.com.au > technowand.com.au > > We take away your technical burdens and spread SMILES _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Someone like Peter Poulos might be able to help. Plenty of tenure and lateral/etc movement, and he's within the AusNOG group on LinkedIn. https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-poulos-a1ba93152/ Good luck with it, and please report back with the outcome/contact/etc for the list's benefit. Cheers, Luke Thompson Operations Manager The Network Crew Pty Ltd https://thenetworkcrew.com.au On 12/2/22 12:33 pm, info wrote: > Hi All, > > I am reaching out, hopefully, to someone at Optus regarding SMS issues > with one of our customers. > > They are a large volume user of SMS services and currently using SMS > Global for their SMS service.? They have been having issues with some > Optus mobile users not being able to send SMS to their virtual?number > for last weeks.? Apparently, SMS Global uses Telstra gateway but they > are not able to help with Optus network issues? > > If someone from Optus network?can reach out to me off list that would > be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Choi > GCNetwork Services > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p2000c at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 10:12:48 2022 From: p2000c at gmail.com (info) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:12:48 +1000 Subject: [AusNOG] Optus SMS issues In-Reply-To: <2d527d68-1eeb-3ca8-adfa-ede46a877cfb@tncrew.com.au> References: <2d527d68-1eeb-3ca8-adfa-ede46a877cfb@tncrew.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Luke, Thanks for that... We will try Optus support channel but failing that will try to reach out to AusNOG members from Optus... Will report any outcome to the list. On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 11:58 AM Luke Thompson wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > You could try Gladys - not sure if her mailbox is set-up yet though... > > Jokes aside, noc at optus.net.au might work. However it used to report full: > https://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/2019-November/043675.html > > Aside from that one: ipadmin at optus.net.au and/or hostmaster at optus.net.au > Might find someone useful at: 1800 555 937 or 02 8082 7800 (experiment a > bit) > > Only yesterday we had Optus Live Chat explaining to a customer that Port > 25 is neither TCP nor UDP, and that port blocking isn't done by ISPs so > they wouldn't ask a Manager about it, so I'd say you're going to need to > get someone switched-on to avoid the layers of incompetence that seem to > exist within. > > Someone like Peter Poulos might be able to help. Plenty of tenure and > lateral/etc movement, and he's within the AusNOG group on LinkedIn. > https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-poulos-a1ba93152/ > > Good luck with it, and please report back with the outcome/contact/etc for > the list's benefit. > > Cheers, > Luke Thompson > Operations Manager > > The Network Crew Pty Ltd > https://thenetworkcrew.com.au > > On 12/2/22 12:33 pm, info wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am reaching out, hopefully, to someone at Optus regarding SMS issues > with one of our customers. > > They are a large volume user of SMS services and currently using SMS > Global for their SMS service. They have been having issues with some Optus > mobile users not being able to send SMS to their virtual number for last > weeks. Apparently, SMS Global uses Telstra gateway but they are not able > to help with Optus network issues? > > If someone from Optus network can reach out to me off list that would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Patrick Choi > GCNetwork Services > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing listAusNOG at ausnog.nethttps://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fireball961 at gmail.com Sun Feb 13 18:27:15 2022 From: fireball961 at gmail.com (Darren Geyer) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 18:27:15 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] Fixed wireless in Yarrabah In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Starlink I know someone in rural Vic that got it set up at home and loves it. Who knows might get free Prime. LOL *Darren* On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 07:43, Rahul Chawla wrote: > Hello all, > > We have a customer in Yarrabah with an unreliable NBN Skymuster and hoping > if there is a fixed wireless provider in the area please. > > Replies off-list please. > Rahul Chawla > > Operations > > Technowand > 1300 176 453 | 0413 698 818 > rahul at technowand.com.au > technowand.com.au > > We take away your technical burdens and spread SMILES > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Everything below the forwarding line up to but not including my sig, is the scam message. I removed the HTML version and nobbled the text link to prevent accidents. Regards, K. -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: AUSNOG To: Karl Auer Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Bit of a long shot but... Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:05:17 +0000 Regards! Good day! All requested data, and additional receipt can be found via this link: https://oraix.net/eimuxuqqsce/ooolexsdalrmod-erxm-siouxltrn -----Original Message----- On Sunday, 5 December 2021, 01:59 wrote: > On Sun, 2021-12-05 at 12:27 +1100, Giles Pollock wrote: > I'm fairly > sure > an email server hosting a client of mine > has been forgotten about > and has > managed to run out of disk space, > and I can't seem to get hold of > anyone > who recognises it actually > exists... Follow the money. It's > unlikely > anybody is running it for free. Regards, K. -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ > Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer GPG > fingerprint: 61A0 99A9 8823 3A75 871E 5D90 BADB B237 260C 9C58 Old > fingerprint: 2561 E9EC D868 E73C 8AF1 49CF EE50 4B1D CCA1 5170 > _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > _____________________________________________________________________ > _ This > email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. > For > more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com > _____________________________________________________________________ > _ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer From james.braunegg at micron21.com Wed Feb 16 13:13:36 2022 From: james.braunegg at micron21.com (James Braunegg) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 02:13:36 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] GIS Software Recommendations Message-ID: <5cd6c780390345ec8c007ab55ca52397@micron21.com> Dear All Just wondering if anyone has any recommendations for good GIS software (Commercial Software but also happy with Open Source) with detailed street / building maps across Australia for detailing fibre assets (Pit / pipe / cable etc) locations / management along with a good planning tool. 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John On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 12:43, James Braunegg wrote: > Dear All > > > > Just wondering if anyone has any recommendations for good GIS software > (Commercial Software but also happy with Open Source) with detailed street > / building maps across Australia for detailing fibre assets (Pit / pipe / > cable etc) locations / management along with a good planning tool. > > > > Kindest Regards > > > > *James Braunegg* > > [image: cid:image001.png at 01D280A4.01865B60] > > 1300 769 972 / 0488 997 207 <1300%20769%20972> > > *james at micron21.com * > > www.micron21.com/ > > [image: cid:image002.png at 01D280A4.01865B60] > > [image: cid:image003.png at 01D280A4.01865B60] > > > [image: cid:image004.png at 01D280A4.01865B60] > > Follow us on Twitter for important service > and system updates. > > This message is intended for the addressee named above. It may contain > privileged or confidential information. 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I removed the HTML version and nobbled the text link > to prevent accidents. > > Regards, K. > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: AUSNOG > To: Karl Auer > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Bit of a long shot but... > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 16:05:17 +0000 > > Regards! > > Good day! > All requested data, and additional receipt can be found via this link: > > > https://oraix.net/eimuxuqqsce/ooolexsdalrmod-erxm-siouxltrn > > -----Original Message----- > On Sunday, 5 December 2021, 01:59 wrote: >> On Sun, 2021-12-05 at 12:27 +1100, Giles Pollock wrote: > I'm fairly >> sure >> an email server hosting a client of mine > has been forgotten about >> and has >> managed to run out of disk space, > and I can't seem to get hold of >> anyone >> who recognises it actually > exists... Follow the money. It's >> unlikely >> anybody is running it for free. Regards, K. -- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> ~~ >> Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer GPG >> fingerprint: 61A0 99A9 8823 3A75 871E 5D90 BADB B237 260C 9C58 Old >> fingerprint: 2561 E9EC D868 E73C 8AF1 49CF EE50 4B1D CCA1 5170 >> _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ This >> email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. >> For >> more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ From bevan at slattery.net.au Fri Feb 18 17:46:55 2022 From: bevan at slattery.net.au (Bevan Slattery) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 16:46:55 +1000 Subject: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability In-Reply-To: <00719f74-e2e3-4703-ae68-f9d5267401f3@Spark> References: <00719f74-e2e3-4703-ae68-f9d5267401f3@Spark> Message-ID: <0f461a1b-4ea2-4bd7-b3a1-72f94817ef1d@Spark> Hi all, Keen to see from industry what the best sat service option/hardware is for one of my boats.??It?s a large research boat that heads a fair way out to see (Raine Island for example).??Being 100-300km off-shore the ocean gets a bit ?pitchy? :). Obviously something with Starlink is preferred (but also know a marinised version is later this year), but also keen to see what are the best rates/deals on more traditional satellite tech and bandwidth offers.??Hoping there?s peeps on here with some maritime capability or contacts. Cheers [b] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brad at bradleyamm.com Fri Feb 18 18:01:32 2022 From: brad at bradleyamm.com (Bradley Amm) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 07:01:32 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability In-Reply-To: <0f461a1b-4ea2-4bd7-b3a1-72f94817ef1d@Spark> References: <00719f74-e2e3-4703-ae68-f9d5267401f3@Spark>, <0f461a1b-4ea2-4bd7-b3a1-72f94817ef1d@Spark> Message-ID: Hi all. Interested in this too. We have teams go offshore for few days/ weeks doing surveys Get Outlook for iOS ________________________________ From: AusNOG on behalf of Bevan Slattery Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 2:46:55 PM To: ausnog at ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability Hi all, Keen to see from industry what the best sat service option/hardware is for one of my boats. It?s a large research boat that heads a fair way out to see (Raine Island for example). Being 100-300km off-shore the ocean gets a bit ?pitchy? :). Obviously something with Starlink is preferred (but also know a marinised version is later this year), but also keen to see what are the best rates/deals on more traditional satellite tech and bandwidth offers. Hoping there?s peeps on here with some maritime capability or contacts. Cheers [b] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tom.Minchin at csiro.au Fri Feb 18 19:18:33 2022 From: Tom.Minchin at csiro.au (Minchin, Tom (IM&T, Black Mountain)) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 08:18:33 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability In-Reply-To: <0f461a1b-4ea2-4bd7-b3a1-72f94817ef1d@Spark> References: <00719f74-e2e3-4703-ae68-f9d5267401f3@Spark> <0f461a1b-4ea2-4bd7-b3a1-72f94817ef1d@Spark> Message-ID: Hello, We use Home | Acutec - Communications, Entertainment & IT at Sea on the RV Investigator. It is ok had it for a while as then it was the only decent non military coverage for going down to the south pole area. It is VSAT. Big money each month. It?s a bundle of data/voice/handset. We are watching Starlink too for their marine version too. Tom From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery Sent: Friday, 18 February 2022 5:47 PM To: ausnog at ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability Hi all, Keen to see from industry what the best sat service option/hardware is for one of my boats. It?s a large research boat that heads a fair way out to see (Raine Island for example). Being 100-300km off-shore the ocean gets a bit ?pitchy? :). Obviously something with Starlink is preferred (but also know a marinised version is later this year), but also keen to see what are the best rates/deals on more traditional satellite tech and bandwidth offers. Hoping there?s peeps on here with some maritime capability or contacts. Cheers [b] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luke.t at tncrew.com.au Mon Feb 21 11:23:00 2022 From: luke.t at tncrew.com.au (Luke Thompson) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:23:00 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet Message-ID: Hi folks, For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work. We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we can transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good opportunity to replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The hand-off will be SFP+ rather than SFP. Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot failures, we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to have a bit of resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than single-core, and 1-4GB RAM rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for other services (VPN, DNS, etc). What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder. This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a fair while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right and repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and look to re-do it again fairly soon. One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them behind a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though would rather keep that for the DCs. Any and all insights much appreciated! Cheers, Luke Thompson Operations Manager The Network Crew Pty Ltd https://thenetworkcrew.com.au From jenn at jenn.id.au Mon Feb 21 11:29:18 2022 From: jenn at jenn.id.au (Jennifer Sims) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:29:18 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In a former life, I used to suggest supply of the below: https://mikrotik.com/product/CCR1009-7G-1C-1SplusPC I use one on my FTTP 1G connection and it copes quite happily. Jeen On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:23 AM Luke Thompson wrote: > Hi folks, > > For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office > environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work. > > We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we can > transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good opportunity to > replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The hand-off will be SFP+ > rather than SFP. > > Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's > recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot failures, > we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to have a bit of > resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than single-core, and 1-4GB RAM > rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for other services (VPN, DNS, etc). > > What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik > have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some > low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much > resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main > consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder. > > This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a fair > while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right and > repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and look to > re-do it again fairly soon. > > One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches > as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them behind > a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though would > rather keep that for the DCs. > > Any and all insights much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Luke Thompson > Operations Manager > > The Network Crew Pty Ltd > https://thenetworkcrew.com.au > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ubiquiti make some options, > > *chuckles* > >> likewise MikroTik have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. >> >> Any and all insights much appreciated! > > Here's one insight > > -- > Regards, > Noel Butler > > This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged > information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject to > copyright protected under international law. 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Mikrotik is what we have run and we recently lost hardware during a lightning strike, only to find out "the hard way" and that many many people also learnt the hardway, restoring a mikrotik backup to the same mikrotik model - doesn't always work. This is due to it having hard coded MAC addresses in its backup file to start with, just a reminder to ensure whichever direction you go, look into your DR methods and always keep a plaintext export of the configuration secured somewhere. We didn't, although Kind Regards, Mario Zuppini *P* 0405 650 930 *E* mario at fluffyduck.com.au *W* http://www.fluffyduck.com.au On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 at 10:23, Luke Thompson wrote: > Hi folks, > > For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office > environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work. > > We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we can > transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good opportunity to > replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The hand-off will be SFP+ > rather than SFP. > > Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's > recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot failures, > we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to have a bit of > resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than single-core, and 1-4GB RAM > rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for other services (VPN, DNS, etc). > > What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik > have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some > low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much > resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main > consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder. > > This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a fair > while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right and > repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and look to > re-do it again fairly soon. > > One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches > as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them behind > a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though would > rather keep that for the DCs. > > Any and all insights much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Luke Thompson > Operations Manager > > The Network Crew Pty Ltd > https://thenetworkcrew.com.au > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Obviously something with Starlink is preferred (but also know a marinised version is later this year), but also keen to see what are the best rates/deals on more traditional satellite tech and bandwidth offers. Hoping there?s peeps on here with some maritime capability or contacts. Cheers [b] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 08:18:33 +0000 From: "Minchin, Tom (IM&T, Black Mountain)" To: "ausnog at ausnog.net" Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello, We use Home | Acutec - Communications, Entertainment & IT at Sea on the RV Investigator. It is ok had it for a while as then it was the only decent non military coverage for going down to the south pole area. It is VSAT. Big money each month. It?s a bundle of data/voice/handset. We are watching Starlink too for their marine version too. Tom From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Bevan Slattery Sent: Friday, 18 February 2022 5:47 PM To: ausnog at ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability Hi all, Keen to see from industry what the best sat service option/hardware is for one of my boats. It?s a large research boat that heads a fair way out to see (Raine Island for example). Being 100-300km off-shore the ocean gets a bit ?pitchy? :). Obviously something with Starlink is preferred (but also know a marinised version is later this year), but also keen to see what are the best rates/deals on more traditional satellite tech and bandwidth offers. Hoping there?s peeps on here with some maritime capability or contacts. Cheers [b] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:23:00 +1100 From: Luke Thompson To: ausnog at ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Hi folks, For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work. We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we can transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good opportunity to replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The hand-off will be SFP+ rather than SFP. Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot failures, we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to have a bit of resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than single-core, and 1-4GB RAM rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for other services (VPN, DNS, etc). What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder. This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a fair while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right and repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and look to re-do it again fairly soon. One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them behind a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though would rather keep that for the DCs. Any and all insights much appreciated! Cheers, Luke Thompson Operations Manager The Network Crew Pty Ltd https://thenetworkcrew.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:29:18 +1100 From: Jennifer Sims To: Luke Thompson Cc: AusNOG Mailing List Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" In a former life, I used to suggest supply of the below: https://mikrotik.com/product/CCR1009-7G-1C-1SplusPC I use one on my FTTP 1G connection and it copes quite happily. Jeen On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:23 AM Luke Thompson wrote: > Hi folks, > > For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office > environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work. > > We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we > can transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good > opportunity to replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The > hand-off will be SFP+ rather than SFP. > > Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's > recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot > failures, we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to > have a bit of resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than > single-core, and 1-4GB RAM rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for other services (VPN, DNS, etc). > > What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik > have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some > low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much > resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main > consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder. > > This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a > fair while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right > and repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and > look to re-do it again fairly soon. > > One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches > as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them > behind a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though > would rather keep that for the DCs. > > Any and all insights much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Luke Thompson > Operations Manager > > The Network Crew Pty Ltd > https://thenetworkcrew.com.au > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: switch_comparison.png Type: image/png Size: 41727 bytes Desc: not available URL: ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:38:37 +1000 From: Noel Butler To: ausnog at ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet Message-ID: <69653db162dc1381fa20ddcff28883c3 at ausics.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" I realise you asked for router (bit slow today mondayitis on top of a cold and only 1 coffee) but the router differences are much the same, anyone who installs ubiquiti in anything more than a soho or some env, will regret it soon enough (fanbois and bandwagon jumpers excluded) cheers :) On 21/02/2022 10:34, Noel Butler wrote: > On 21/02/2022 10:23, Luke Thompson wrote: > >> What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, > > *chuckles* > >> likewise MikroTik have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. >> >> Any and all insights much appreciated! > > Here's one insight > > -- > Regards, > Noel Butler > > This Email, including attachments, may contain legally privileged > information, therefore at all times remains confidential and subject > to copyright protected under international law. 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The Mikrotik 10GBT SFP+ do 1/2.5/5/10G just fine (they do get wark) and FS optics also work fine. The 25G ports are also 10 capable as well so you get a lot of switch/router ports for your money. -----Original Message----- From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Luke Thompson Sent: Monday, 21 February 2022 1:23 pm To: ausnog at ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet Hi folks, For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work. We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we can transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good opportunity to replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The hand-off will be SFP+ rather than SFP. Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot failures, we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to have a bit of resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than single-core, and 1-4GB RAM rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for other services (VPN, DNS, etc). What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder. This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a fair while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right and repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and look to re-do it again fairly soon. One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them behind a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though would rather keep that for the DCs. Any and all insights much appreciated! Cheers, Luke Thompson Operations Manager The Network Crew Pty Ltd https://thenetworkcrew.com.au _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG at ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog From tony at wicks.co.nz Mon Feb 21 12:13:38 2022 From: tony at wicks.co.nz (Tony Wicks) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:13:38 +1300 Subject: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet In-Reply-To: <00d101d826c0$0fd0fb40$2f72f1c0$@wicks.co.nz> References: <00d101d826c0$0fd0fb40$2f72f1c0$@wicks.co.nz> Message-ID: <00d301d826c0$438ab610$caa02230$@wicks.co.nz> Warm, the optics get warm I mean to say. -----Original Message----- From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Tony Wicks Sent: Monday, 21 February 2022 2:12 pm To: 'Luke Thompson' Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet I use these https://mikrotik.com/product/ccr2004_1g_12s_2xs on our "Hyperfibre" 2/2G, 4/4G, 8/8G Connections here in NZ and they work very nicely (4% CPU load with a line rate 4Gb/s speedtest). Have one downstairs right now as my home router. The Mikrotik 10GBT SFP+ do 1/2.5/5/10G just fine (they do get wark) and FS optics also work fine. The 25G ports are also 10 capable as well so you get a lot of switch/router ports for your money. -----Original Message----- From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Luke Thompson Sent: Monday, 21 February 2022 1:23 pm To: ausnog at ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet Hi folks, For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work. We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we can transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good opportunity to replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The hand-off will be SFP+ rather than SFP. Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot failures, we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to have a bit of resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than single-core, and 1-4GB RAM rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for other services (VPN, DNS, etc). What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder. This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a fair while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right and repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and look to re-do it again fairly soon. One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them behind a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though would rather keep that for the DCs. Any and all insights much appreciated! Cheers, Luke Thompson Operations Manager The Network Crew Pty Ltd https://thenetworkcrew.com.au _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG at ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG at ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog From luke.t at tncrew.com.au Mon Feb 21 18:32:00 2022 From: luke.t at tncrew.com.au (Luke Thompson) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:32:00 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66753b5b-0ade-bf00-75e3-01b4f9dc01cf@tncrew.com.au> Many thanks to everyone who replied on- and off-list! Cheers, Luke Thompson Operations Manager The Network Crew Pty Ltd https://thenetworkcrew.com.au On 21/2/22 11:23 am, Luke Thompson wrote: > Hi folks, > > For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office > environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work. > > We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we > can transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good > opportunity to replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The > hand-off will be SFP+ rather than SFP. > > Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's > recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot > failures, we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to > have a bit of resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than > single-core, and 1-4GB RAM rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for > other services (VPN, DNS, etc). > > What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik > have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some > low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much > resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main > consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder. > > This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a > fair while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right > and repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and > look to re-do it again fairly soon. > > One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches > as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them > behind a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though > would rather keep that for the DCs. > > Any and all insights much appreciated! > > Cheers, > > Luke Thompson > Operations Manager > > The Network Crew Pty Ltd > https://thenetworkcrew.com.au > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog From steve at kararconsulting.com Mon Feb 21 20:26:27 2022 From: steve at kararconsulting.com (Steve Hille) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:26:27 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra 4G issue - Forestania Message-ID: Hi folks, I have a site in outback Western Australia (Forestania) where I run a 1941 with a 4G HWIC out to Telstra. Someone from Telstra was at site last week and now the network is unuseable, I can get pings through at like 5 second intervals, sometimes it gets a little better but it has become almost completely unuseable. 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Since we have limited capacity, please register here: https://academy.apnic.net/en/events?id=a0B2e000000StnAEAS The draft agenda for the RPKIathon is here for your reference: https://wiki.apnictraining.net/rpki-ausnog2021/agenda Looking forward to seeing you all in April. Cheers, -- Tashi (on behalf of APNIC) > On 9 Jul 2021, at 2:53 pm, Tashi Phuntsho wrote: > > Hi all, > > It's been more than a year since the last RPKI Deployathon at APRICOT > 2020, and since then, we've seen some great discussions and deployment in > AU - thanks to all the early adopters. > > The RPKI framework is still evolving; validators have come and gone; some > router vendors are still catching up; and most importantly, the majority of > routes originating from AU still do not have a covering ROA. > > As a result, APNIC is planning a full-day RPKI Deployathon in Sydney, on > Wednesday, 1 September, a day before AusNOG 2021 kicks off. 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I don't see why a Telstra tech would come to site for a 4G service in general unless they manage the connecting piece of equipment - in which case yeah you might need to spend some time with the entry level script followers to convince them to lodge a fault until it gets to higher level hands. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Steve Hille" To: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" Sent: 21/02/2022 8:26:27 PM Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra 4G issue - Forestania >Hi folks, > > > >I have a site in outback Western Australia (Forestania) where I run a >1941 with a 4G HWIC out to Telstra. > > > >Someone from Telstra was at site last week and now the network is >unuseable, I can get pings through at like 5 second intervals, >sometimes it gets a little better but it has become almost completely >unuseable. > > > >Calling the Telstra support line and going to someone in the Philipines >is going to get me exactly nowhere other than a headache, has anyone >got any thoughts on how to get to Telstra support that might actually >be able to help me? > > > >Cheers, > > > >Steve > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Discreetly positioned on block Professionally built, and well maintained. Data centre room itself would measure approx 5x5m - with a 3x5m reception/control area. Some racking included, but there is room for more. If something like that fills a need please let me know and I'll put you together with the new owner. Regards, David ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vk6ksj at westnet.com.au Thu Feb 24 13:58:42 2022 From: vk6ksj at westnet.com.au (Kai) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:28:42 +1030 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... Message-ID: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about critical warning messages seen from my account recently". Alex had a moderate Indian accent. I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up scammed. From siridar at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 14:10:04 2022 From: siridar at gmail.com (Scott Wilson) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 13:10:04 +1000 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... In-Reply-To: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: Mate, they're awful lately. They're also getting smarter. Last one I got, I told him I was AFP, international fraud division. He said he was from ASIO working undercover for Telstra... On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai wrote: > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about > critical warning messages seen from my account recently". > Alex had a moderate Indian accent. > > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. > > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up > scammed. > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitchkelly24 at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 14:11:25 2022 From: mitchkelly24 at gmail.com (Mitch Kelly) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 11:11:25 +0800 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... In-Reply-To: References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: I am working on a new "Lenny" Stay tuned! On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:10 AM Scott Wilson wrote: > Mate, they're awful lately. They're also getting smarter. Last one I got, > I told him I was AFP, international fraud division. He said he was from > ASIO working undercover for Telstra... > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai wrote: > >> Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about >> critical warning messages seen from my account recently". >> Alex had a moderate Indian accent. >> >> I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. >> >> Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up >> scammed. >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG at ausnog.net >> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From james at gray.net.au Thu Feb 24 17:24:54 2022 From: james at gray.net.au (James Gray) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 17:24:54 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... In-Reply-To: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: <435BA955-8515-4C77-AA67-ED152E1B9191@gray.net.au> On 24 Feb 2022, at 1:58 pm, Kai wrote: > > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about critical warning messages seen from my account recently". > Alex had a moderate Indian accent. > > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. > > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up scammed. I usually open with something like ?Oh no! That sounds serious? and act clueless; string them along for as long as I can. I figure if they?re wasting their time with me, they can?t be duping my elderly parents out of my inheritance! My record so far is upwards of 10 minutes. ? James -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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MK On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:25 PM James Gray wrote: > On 24 Feb 2022, at 1:58 pm, Kai wrote: > > > > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about > critical warning messages seen from my account recently". > > Alex had a moderate Indian accent. > > > > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. > > > > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up > scammed. > > I usually open with something like ?Oh no! That sounds serious? and act > clueless; string them along for as long as I can. I figure if they?re > wasting their time with me, they can?t be duping my elderly parents out of > my inheritance! My record so far is upwards of 10 minutes. > > ? > James_______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xrobau at gmail.com Thu Feb 24 19:09:43 2022 From: xrobau at gmail.com (Rob Thomas) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 18:09:43 +1000 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... In-Reply-To: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: Can I *please* encourage everyone to answer any suspicious call, wait a few seconds, and then hang up. This does a couple of things. 1. It tells us (the carriers) that it's a suspicious call. We have reports on short-length calls, and if one of our clients is making 10k calls a day, of which 80% are 2 seconds long, that rings many MANY alarm bells. 2. Even if it's a carrier who is fast asleep, they're still going to charge the scammer for an answered call. No-one's getting free calls, no matter who they're dealing with. Answering the call, even for a few seconds, means it's costing them money. If it's NOT a scam call, and it's a real person, they'll call back. If it's a scam call, the auto-dialler will mark it as 'scammed', and move on to the next person. Feel free to share this around - this isn't rocket science, but if people don't know, they're not going to do it. tl;dr: Answer the scam call, wait 2 seconds at least, hang up. --Rob On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai wrote: > > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about > critical warning messages seen from my account recently". > Alex had a moderate Indian accent. > > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. > > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up > scammed. > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog From rendrag at rendrag.net Thu Feb 24 19:11:59 2022 From: rendrag at rendrag.net (Damien Gardner Jnr) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 19:11:59 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... In-Reply-To: References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: I just answer all calls and say nothing. Actual legit people can?t take the silence and go ?Uhhh hello?? Scammers think they hit voicemail or something and hangup at the 4 second mark. I answer easy 10 calls a day, 9 of them hang up at 4 seconds. ?DG On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 7:10 pm, Rob Thomas wrote: > Can I *please* encourage everyone to answer any suspicious call, wait > a few seconds, and then hang up. This does a couple of things. > > 1. It tells us (the carriers) that it's a suspicious call. We have > reports on short-length calls, and if one of our clients is making 10k > calls a day, of which 80% are 2 seconds long, that rings many MANY > alarm bells. > 2. Even if it's a carrier who is fast asleep, they're still going to > charge the scammer for an answered call. No-one's getting free calls, > no matter who they're dealing with. Answering the call, even for a few > seconds, means it's costing them money. > > If it's NOT a scam call, and it's a real person, they'll call back. If > it's a scam call, the auto-dialler will mark it as 'scammed', and move > on to the next person. > > Feel free to share this around - this isn't rocket science, but if > people don't know, they're not going to do it. > > tl;dr: Answer the scam call, wait 2 seconds at least, hang up. > > --Rob > > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai wrote: > > > > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about > > critical warning messages seen from my account recently". > > Alex had a moderate Indian accent. > > > > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. > > > > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up > > scammed. > > _______________________________________________ > > AusNOG mailing list > > AusNOG at ausnog.net > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Dan.Whitford at anycast.com.au Fri Feb 25 09:05:37 2022 From: Dan.Whitford at anycast.com.au (Dan Whitford) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:05:37 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... In-Reply-To: <435BA955-8515-4C77-AA67-ED152E1B9191@gray.net.au> References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> <435BA955-8515-4C77-AA67-ED152E1B9191@gray.net.au> Message-ID: <34D6B342-9B88-48CB-9D91-358968677DE1@anycast.com.au> I had one the other day. ?I?m calling from Telstra International to let you know that someone is using your home internet connection without your knowledge. The good news is that we can provide a free firewall service so that you can?? Sounded like a ?boiler room? behind him ;-) Dan > On 24 Feb 2022, at 5:24 pm, James Gray wrote: > > On 24 Feb 2022, at 1:58 pm, Kai wrote: >> >> Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about critical warning messages seen from my account recently". >> Alex had a moderate Indian accent. >> >> I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. >> >> Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up scammed. > > I usually open with something like ?Oh no! That sounds serious? and act clueless; string them along for as long as I can. I figure if they?re wasting their time with me, they can?t be duping my elderly parents out of my inheritance! My record so far is upwards of 10 minutes. > > ? > James_______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au Fri Feb 25 18:42:10 2022 From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 07:42:10 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Easiest way to unlock many SIMs for OOB deployments Message-ID: Hi All, We have 49 Huawei E8372 devices locked to Telstra that we are migrating to Optus. These are OOB remote access dongles connected to remote site equipment. We've unlocked a few of these (which took close to 10 days) and they are working fine, however I am wondering what is the best way to unlock many at the same time. Happy to hear from others with a similar challenge. 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On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 17:42, Darren Moss wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > We have 49 Huawei E8372 devices locked to Telstra that we are migrating to Optus. > > > > These are OOB remote access dongles connected to remote site equipment. > > > > We?ve unlocked a few of these (which took close to 10 days) and they are working fine, however I am wondering what is the best way to unlock many at the same time. > > > > Happy to hear from others with a similar challenge. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Darren. > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog From Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au Fri Feb 25 19:38:18 2022 From: Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au (Darren Moss) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 08:38:18 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] Easiest way to unlock many SIMs for OOB deployments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah even if I could rock into Big W and buy 50 devices (highly unlikely), I would like to try and re-use the devices we have as many of them are 1 year or less in age. Cheers Regards, Darren Moss General Manager Cloud365 Australia Pty Limited Darren.Moss at cloud365.com.au +61 1800 888 365?x105 +61 3 9017 2287 Level 1, 1 Queens Road, Melbourne VIC 3004 www.cloud365.com.au This communication may contain confidential or privileged information intended solely for the individual or entity above. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, interfere with, disclose, copy or retain this email and you should notify the sender immediately by return email or by contacting our office. Opinions expressed may not represent an organisational view. Please consider the environment before printing. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Thomas Sent: Friday, 25 February 2022 7:08 PM To: Darren Moss Cc: AusNOG Mailing List Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Easiest way to unlock many SIMs for OOB deployments Oddly enough, you'll probably find it easier to just throw them away and buy new Optus ones. They're effectively free if you buy them from Big W. On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 17:42, Darren Moss wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > We have 49 Huawei E8372 devices locked to Telstra that we are migrating to Optus. > > > > These are OOB remote access dongles connected to remote site equipment. > > > > We?ve unlocked a few of these (which took close to 10 days) and they are working fine, however I am wondering what is the best way to unlock many at the same time. > > > > Happy to hear from others with a similar challenge. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Darren. > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog From kauer at biplane.com.au Fri Feb 25 19:46:52 2022 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 19:46:52 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] Easiest way to unlock many SIMs for OOB deployments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6630a2b10c6d742b191d522e29bd8634de1cdf47.camel@biplane.com.au> On Fri, 2022-02-25 at 08:38 +0000, Darren Moss wrote: > Yeah even if I could rock into Big W and buy 50 devices (highly > unlikely), I would like to try and re-use the devices we have as many > of them are 1 year or less in age. Quite apart from the disgusting wastefulness of discarding 50 perfectly good mobile phones... Send them to me if you do decide to discard them. I'm sure I can find better homes for them than the e-waste bin. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer From kauer at biplane.com.au Fri Feb 25 19:50:50 2022 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 19:50:50 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] Easiest way to unlock many SIMs for OOB deployments In-Reply-To: <6630a2b10c6d742b191d522e29bd8634de1cdf47.camel@biplane.com.au> References: <6630a2b10c6d742b191d522e29bd8634de1cdf47.camel@biplane.com.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 2022-02-25 at 19:46 +1100, Karl Auer wrote: > Quite apart from the disgusting wastefulness of discarding 50 > perfectly good mobile phones... s/mobile phones/dongles/ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer From rendrag at rendrag.net Fri Feb 25 20:20:35 2022 From: rendrag at rendrag.net (Damien Gardner Jnr) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 20:20:35 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] Easiest way to unlock many SIMs for OOB deployments In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dumb question, but have you tried the process at https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/414606 ? It looks somewhat involved, but I'm sure you could setup a few PC's for the steps to do a production line On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 18:42, Darren Moss wrote: > Hi All, > > > > We have 49 Huawei E8372 devices locked to Telstra that we are migrating to > Optus. > > > > These are OOB remote access dongles connected to remote site equipment. > > > > We?ve unlocked a few of these (which took close to 10 days) and they are > working fine, however I am wondering what is the best way to unlock many at > the same time. > > > > Happy to hear from others with a similar challenge. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Darren. > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ -- We rode on the winds of the rising storm, We ran to the sounds of thunder. We danced among the lightning bolts, and tore the world asunder -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fireball961 at gmail.com Fri Feb 25 23:01:05 2022 From: fireball961 at gmail.com (Darren Geyer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 23:01:05 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] Easiest way to unlock many SIMs for OOB deployments In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmc at mmc.com.au Sat Feb 26 13:58:34 2022 From: mmc at mmc.com.au (Matthew Moyle-Croft) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 13:28:34 +1030 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... In-Reply-To: References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> Message-ID: <39855CB5-C582-42FE-9E0D-FD94A7B01FF9@mmc.com.au> A lot of auto-dialers listen for that and will mark you as a fax machine and take your number out of the pool. Also will normally be a short call so to Rob?s point it?ll get marked. Last one I talked to I just said ?Do you really want to do this?? and they hung up immediately on me. MMC > On 24 Feb 2022, at 6:41 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote: > > I just answer all calls and say nothing. Actual legit people can?t take the silence and go ?Uhhh hello?? Scammers think they hit voicemail or something and hangup at the 4 second mark. > > I answer easy 10 calls a day, 9 of them hang up at 4 seconds. > > ?DG > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 7:10 pm, Rob Thomas > wrote: > Can I *please* encourage everyone to answer any suspicious call, wait > a few seconds, and then hang up. This does a couple of things. > > 1. It tells us (the carriers) that it's a suspicious call. We have > reports on short-length calls, and if one of our clients is making 10k > calls a day, of which 80% are 2 seconds long, that rings many MANY > alarm bells. > 2. Even if it's a carrier who is fast asleep, they're still going to > charge the scammer for an answered call. No-one's getting free calls, > no matter who they're dealing with. Answering the call, even for a few > seconds, means it's costing them money. > > If it's NOT a scam call, and it's a real person, they'll call back. If > it's a scam call, the auto-dialler will mark it as 'scammed', and move > on to the next person. > > Feel free to share this around - this isn't rocket science, but if > people don't know, they're not going to do it. > > tl;dr: Answer the scam call, wait 2 seconds at least, hang up. > > --Rob > > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai > wrote: > > > > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about > > critical warning messages seen from my account recently". > > Alex had a moderate Indian accent. > > > > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. > > > > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up > > scammed. > > _______________________________________________ > > AusNOG mailing list > > AusNOG at ausnog.net > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -- > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jalovick at doof.org Sat Feb 26 14:06:30 2022 From: jalovick at doof.org (Jamie Lovick) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:06:30 +1100 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... In-Reply-To: <39855CB5-C582-42FE-9E0D-FD94A7B01FF9@mmc.com.au> References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> <39855CB5-C582-42FE-9E0D-FD94A7B01FF9@mmc.com.au> Message-ID: They seem to listen for common greetings, I typically answer stating my name, and it doesn't trigger, it just hangs up after a few seconds. Jamie -- Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant AU <-> +61-4-1479-1681 US <-> +1-8018-4-52643 (JAMIE) Em <-> jalovick at doof.org On Sat, Feb 26, 2022, 1:58 PM Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: > A lot of auto-dialers listen for that and will mark you as a fax machine > and take your number out of the pool. Also will normally be a short call so > to Rob?s point it?ll get marked. > > Last one I talked to I just said ?Do you really want to do this?? and they > hung up immediately on me. > > MMC > > On 24 Feb 2022, at 6:41 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr > wrote: > > I just answer all calls and say nothing. Actual legit people can?t take > the silence and go ?Uhhh hello?? Scammers think they hit voicemail or > something and hangup at the 4 second mark. > > I answer easy 10 calls a day, 9 of them hang up at 4 seconds. > > ?DG > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 7:10 pm, Rob Thomas wrote: > >> Can I *please* encourage everyone to answer any suspicious call, wait >> a few seconds, and then hang up. This does a couple of things. >> >> 1. It tells us (the carriers) that it's a suspicious call. We have >> reports on short-length calls, and if one of our clients is making 10k >> calls a day, of which 80% are 2 seconds long, that rings many MANY >> alarm bells. >> 2. Even if it's a carrier who is fast asleep, they're still going to >> charge the scammer for an answered call. No-one's getting free calls, >> no matter who they're dealing with. Answering the call, even for a few >> seconds, means it's costing them money. >> >> If it's NOT a scam call, and it's a real person, they'll call back. If >> it's a scam call, the auto-dialler will mark it as 'scammed', and move >> on to the next person. >> >> Feel free to share this around - this isn't rocket science, but if >> people don't know, they're not going to do it. >> >> tl;dr: Answer the scam call, wait 2 seconds at least, hang up. >> >> --Rob >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai wrote: >> > >> > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about >> > critical warning messages seen from my account recently". >> > Alex had a moderate Indian accent. >> > >> > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. >> > >> > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up >> > scammed. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > AusNOG mailing list >> > AusNOG at ausnog.net >> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG at ausnog.net >> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> > -- > > Damien Gardner Jnr > VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust > rendrag at rendrag.net - http://www.rendrag.net/ > -- > We rode on the winds of the rising storm, > We ran to the sounds of thunder. > We danced among the lightning bolts, > and tore the world asunder > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at juneks.com.au Sat Feb 26 14:15:34 2022 From: michael at juneks.com.au (Michael Junek) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 03:15:34 +0000 Subject: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... In-Reply-To: References: <9e7457ee-976f-dda8-24c8-36e8102198ab@westnet.com.au> <39855CB5-C582-42FE-9E0D-FD94A7B01FF9@mmc.com.au> Message-ID: Automatic machine detection is all based on the timing and cadence of the sounds these days. The older answering machine detection was more accurate because it?d listen for the click of the tape engaging, whereas digital doesn?t have that ?tell-tale? sign. * If you start talking immediately after the call connects, and it continues, that?s more likely to be flagged as an answering machine. You then get thrown for re-dial in a couple of hours. * If it detects a short silence, then a short word or words, followed by silence ? for example ? ?Hello?? ? then it assumes you?re a human and connects you through. * Fax tones are picked up with the answer sound, these are flagged as ?fax machine? and your generally not called again. * Dead silence is marked as silence, and it often assumes there was an issue in connecting ? so it?ll retry you again. Second or third silence calls to the same number are generally no longer tried again. * Often 3 simultaneous calls for every agent are connected and tried ? as the detection takes a few seconds ? it?s based on a predictive algorithm that guesses when the next agent will be available based on the metrics. If it detects that you are a human, and if no agent becomes available, the call is generally disconnects, but you have been marked as a human, and a viable number. All these rules are configurable by the dialler admin, so no one can tell what the retry interval will be If you?re connected, and end up speaking to someone, they can also mark the outcome ? answering machine, disconnection, silence etc ? and the configured rules will generally take effect. From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Jamie Lovick Sent: Saturday, 26 February 2022 14:07 To: Matthew Moyle-Croft Cc: Subject: Re: [AusNOG] "Telstra" scammers still at it... They seem to listen for common greetings, I typically answer stating my name, and it doesn't trigger, it just hangs up after a few seconds. Jamie -- Jamie Lovick <-> IT Consultant AU <-> +61-4-1479-1681 US <-> +1-8018-4-52643 (JAMIE) Em <-> jalovick at doof.org On Sat, Feb 26, 2022, 1:58 PM Matthew Moyle-Croft > wrote: A lot of auto-dialers listen for that and will mark you as a fax machine and take your number out of the pool. Also will normally be a short call so to Rob?s point it?ll get marked. Last one I talked to I just said ?Do you really want to do this?? and they hung up immediately on me. MMC On 24 Feb 2022, at 6:41 pm, Damien Gardner Jnr > wrote: I just answer all calls and say nothing. Actual legit people can?t take the silence and go ?Uhhh hello?? Scammers think they hit voicemail or something and hangup at the 4 second mark. I answer easy 10 calls a day, 9 of them hang up at 4 seconds. ?DG On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 7:10 pm, Rob Thomas > wrote: Can I *please* encourage everyone to answer any suspicious call, wait a few seconds, and then hang up. This does a couple of things. 1. It tells us (the carriers) that it's a suspicious call. We have reports on short-length calls, and if one of our clients is making 10k calls a day, of which 80% are 2 seconds long, that rings many MANY alarm bells. 2. Even if it's a carrier who is fast asleep, they're still going to charge the scammer for an answered call. No-one's getting free calls, no matter who they're dealing with. Answering the call, even for a few seconds, means it's costing them money. If it's NOT a scam call, and it's a real person, they'll call back. If it's a scam call, the auto-dialler will mark it as 'scammed', and move on to the next person. Feel free to share this around - this isn't rocket science, but if people don't know, they're not going to do it. tl;dr: Answer the scam call, wait 2 seconds at least, hang up. --Rob On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 12:58, Kai > wrote: > > Just got a call on "0432 383 486" from "Alex Watson from Telstra, about > critical warning messages seen from my account recently". > Alex had a moderate Indian accent. > > I asked for his Telstra staff ID and he hung up. Hahaa. > > Just hope the next person they call doesn't think it's legit and end up > scammed. > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG at ausnog.net > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog _______________________________________________ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG at ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog -- Damien Gardner Jnr VK2TDG. Dip EE. 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