[AusNOG] *STOP THREAD* AUSNOG Mailing List Dissapointment

[david at hughes.id]

May I please suggest that if you don't agree with Daniel's views or assessment that you respond to him off-list, else he will be the cause of exactly what he is unhappy about.  Remember, every email to the list goes to several thousand inboxes.

As we all know, the mailing list is reactively monitored and we try to let things run their own course unless they are clearly out of line.  The list has been very well behaved of late (thanks everyone!) and while some posts may not be strictly related to running our networks, they have been beneficial or of interest to list members.  Perhaps not all list members, but certainly some.


Thanks

David
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> On 6 Dec 2022, at 10:44 pm, Daniel A <da2355281 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Time to vent.... -
> 
> I've been on the mailing list for years. Read thousands of emails, replied to less than a handful, never started a new thread. I go to the events. It's a great community. But this list is getting on my nerves and I want to vent.
> 
> This mailing list is meant to be for people who run networks or manage networks to talk to other people who run or manage networks. Its meant for discussion about topics relevant to what we do technically and professionally as network operators. Its meant to provide a forum to discuss a complex technical issue and coordinate cooperation between parties. Its meant for introducing an idea that others might not have thought about.
> 
> Over the years I've seen many interesting and useful discussions around BGP leaks, CloudFlare taking down the internet, AAPT/TPG Radius issues causing widespread problems, and those occasional Facebook/Google problems which remind us that we all have problems from time to time. I've seen genuine discussion resulting in problems being solved between network operators and people being able to contact those in the know who can help. There have also been some genuinely interesting posts about things we as an industry should learn about, haven't considered before, and so much more. Amazing. This is what we need to do for each other as a community of like minded people in the industry.
> 
> However, there is a lot of junk.
> 
> I don't come here for -
> 
> - Questions about Microsoft 365. This is an MSP problem. Speak to your service provider, your licensing partner, or log a support ticket with Microsoft.
> - Anything, whatsoever, coming from someone who doesnt run a network. Being a small web hosting provider with a couple of servers in a rack at GSU and some borrowed IP space doesn't count. Essentially, if you don't own an AS and IP space, you're an end user, not a network operator. Watch, read, learn... but your queries/concerns/problems are between you and your provider.
> - Job advertisements. Seek.com.au <http://seek.com.au/> is where you should post your ads. It's also where you should look for a job (or LinkedIn).
> - Bitching about other people's businesses. Don't like them, take it up with them, or better yet focus on your own.
> 
> As I said, this mailing list is meant to be about network operators, talking to other network operators, about technical issues and interesting tech relevant to what we do. It's not a job forum. Its not  place for non-network operators to look for support, its not for bitching, its not for indepth debate about sexual harrasment law. 
> 
> Tech talk for techs in the business of operating networks. That's what this is. 
> 
> For the quiet list members, like myself, can we not just stay on topic?
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