[AusNOG] Promotional material at AusNOG Events.

Wed Aug 3 09:25:45 AEST 2022

Hi Tez,

It would be handy if the current board updated the web site to reflect 
some of this stuff. According to it, your still a board member.  
Obviously not your fault but for any of the new board members whomever 
they may be it would be nice to have accurate and updated info out there.

Matt

On 2/8/2022 9:16 pm, Terry Manderson wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> "A company limited by guarantee with a constitution that protects members"
>
> Yes, I was involved in that part before resigning as a board member - 11+ years was really quite enough and good governance suggests I should!! (and I have a few other fish to fry ;)
>
> "with directors holding directors insurance?" That is up to the AusNOG Inc board to answer.
>
> Of course there are other governance questions that should also be considered. Many of those are about what membership entails and a member's responsibility and liability might be, and also the liability of the board. I don't mean to disparage that move at all, I think it's a good one! - clarity is needed non the less and I'm sure David will provide that.
>
> I can only give my "thumbs up" to the move from a AusNOG PTY LTD to a AusNOG Inc (CLG).
>
> Cheers
> Terry
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> Terry Manderson, BComp MBA PhD MAICD
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>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 6:46 pm, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A company limited by guarantee with a constitution that protects members, with directors holding directors insurance?
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 5:45 pm Terry Manderson, <terry at terrym.net> wrote:
>> As i said,
>>
>> Ausnog is now a membership based CLG and true NFP (members are important) versus a PTY LTD with a Board holding the fiscal responsibility the risk and the outcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Terry
>> --
>> Mobile device, don't expect grammar.
>>
>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:42 pm, Shane Short <shane at short.id.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> If it’s always been a thing; what’s the catalyst for this sudden change in rules?
>>>
>>> I’ve had to tell *massive* multinational companies that no— you can’t be the only type of vendor at the event and no we won’t change our logo from red because that’s your competitions’s colour.
>>>
>>> I’m confident that if this particular sponsor isn’t happy to play ball, someone else will.
>>>
>>> -Shane
>>>
>>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 3:38 pm, Terry Manderson <terry at terrym.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> my opinion only..
>>>>
>>>> David is NOW giving you a view into the back room of the sausage factory as AusNOG becomes a true NFP with an established CLG. I think it has always been "a thing" 😉
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Terry
>>>> --
>>>> Mobile device, don't expect grammar.
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:24 pm, Shane Short <shane at short.id.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Terry,
>>>>>
>>>>> Having dealt extensively with multinational sponsors in the past, I understand where this is coming from— however there’s always a line of reason. I am however concerned that this hasn’t been an issue for a very long time now and it’s now suddenly come out of the blue, with little warning prior to the event and with a very very vague explanation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that AusNOG has historically had no issue attracting sponsors, if a sponsor is now suddenly unhappy with what’s been an established behaviour since inception, maybe their spot can be offered to someone who’s more understanding of the industry dynamic.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Shane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 3:13 pm, Terry Manderson <terry at terrym.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Brendan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will sound glib but having dealt with "sponsors" in & for other forums there is often an implicit ROI for those sponsors. Yes, while community is important, they are backed by corporate entities. Those entities want to know what is "in it for them". I've not as yet seen any of the entities say "oh, it's completely ok for my competitors to be able to share their merch at the event even though I paid up front to be there".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you would like you, or your employer to pay 100% of the per attendee fee to attend + flights + accomodation please pass on that info to David as a likely future sponsor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Terry
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mobile device, don't expect grammar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 2:56 pm, Brendan Halley <brendan at halley.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very disappointed to hear this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has removing this sponsor and letting one of the many companies willing to sponsor take their place? From what I understand there are quite a few big names willing to take a sponsorship slot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It shouldn't just be about what a sponsor wants when we're talking about an event built around an industry that functions more like a community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Brendan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 2:21 PM <david at hughes.id> wrote:
>>>>>>> Afternoon all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've been contacted by one of the sponsors of our conference in April about companies who aren't sponsors handing out promotional material, in particular branded t-shirts etc.  While everyone likes getting a bag full of free merch, we ask that attendees respect the financial commitment that our sponsors make towards funding the conference.  They cover almost half the cost and in return they get the right to promote themselves to all of you who attend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are not a sponsor please do not distribute swag to delegates at the conference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David, on behalf of the Board
>>>>>>> ...
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