[AusNOG] [DKIM Failure] Re: Anyone knowledgeable from Mimecast here who can contact me off list?
noel.butler at ausics.net
Tue Oct 19 13:34:29 EST 2021
Ahhh, so it does indeed count through them all, that would explain the
extra lookups, first time I've ever heard of someone being rejected
because of it, but, until OP lets us know what the reject was for, we
On 19/10/2021 12:23, Two Fat Monkeys - Dirk Bermingham wrote:
> Whilst we're living on the edge here....
> To quote the RFC:
> "SPF implementations MUST limit the number of mechanisms and modifiers
> that do DNS lookups to at most 10 per SPF check, including any
> lookups caused by the use of the "include" mechanism or the
> "redirect" modifier. If this number is exceeded during a check, a
> PermError MUST be returned. The "include", "a", "mx", "ptr", and
> "exists" mechanisms as well as the "redirect" modifier do count
> against this limit. The "all", "ip4", and "ip6" mechanisms do not
> require DNS lookups and therefore do not count against this limit.
> The "exp" modifier does not count against this limit because the DNS
> lookup to fetch the explanation string occurs after the SPF record
> has been evaluated."
> Chris' SPF was even more borked earlier... Those includes need to be
> trimmed a bit further to comply...
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Noel Butler
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 1:11 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [AusNOG] Anyone knowledgeable from Mimecast
> here who can contact me off list?
> This is likely off topic for this list, but anyway, since I live on the
> By my count there is only 3 not 10 mechanism lookups (and show me an
> implementation that actually stops at 10), I'm not so sure they should
> be counting the includes includes/a/aaaa's either, only the include
> itself, as includes are typically out of your control (it has been a
> very long time since I read that RFC so may be wrong)
> Anyway, if that was the issue, it would have surfaced long before now
> If I was a betting man, I'd say DNS caching is the cause, if I was a
> betting man, I'd also be betting someone didnt drop a TTL when
> preparing for the change, so will have to wait till records refresh.
> Of course all this is assumption because OP never posted the actual
> error message.
> On 19/10/2021 09:07, Andrew Oakeley wrote:
>> If I was you; I would start by fixing your SPF.
>> This will show you the errors
>> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of
>> Christopher Scholfield
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 7:04 AM
>> To: 'AusNOG Mailing List' <ausnog at ausnog.net>
>> Subject: [AusNOG] Anyone knowledgeable from Mimecast here who can
>> contact me off list?
>> Yesterday we changed mail filters, Mimecast is the only email provider
>> that has been rejecting our emails due to SPF problems for the last 20
>> odd hours. Mimecast technical support has told me their customers who
>> aren't getting our emails need to contact them so their tech support
>> can explain how to bypass their mail filters for our mail server.
>> I'd rather work with someone at Mimecast to resolve the cause of the
> Noel Butlerimplimentation
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