[AusNOG] Telstra NB-IOT with NIDD

[Jonathan Brewer]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021, at 8:56 AM, John Edwards wrote:
> History has not been kind to wireless protocols beyond basic IP.

Low Power Wide Area Network (LPWAN) protocols exist because the idea of adding an IP header (even a compressed header) to a two-byte data payload is absurd and wasteful of power and radio resources. 

LPWAN protocols enable battery-powered devices to run in the field for ten years at a time. They enable base stations to support device densities of 100k / km^2 in IMT-Advanced, and 1m/km^2 in IMT-2020.

The devices connected by LPWAN protocols not only don't need end-to-end connectivity to the Internet, they don't want it.

I've built test 6LoWPAN networks. I've read IETF LPWAN working group docs and attended their sessions at two meetings. It's not appropriate for all devices, especially battery-powered environmental sensors.

IP everything is a pointless hill to die on - if you don't like the idea of NIDD on Telstra's nbIoT network, just leave it.

-JB


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> WiMax had IPv4, IPv6, PPPoE and ethernet frames as protocol types in the specifications, but vendors only ever implemented IPv4 and put the rest as "coming soon".
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> LTE had IPv6 as an additional licence charge from some vendors. 
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> If you are a carrier, would you rather spend to build more sites to improve coverage and adoption of the basic protocol, or burn budget for fewer sites by supporting a niche protocol at additional cost? As these are just software features that can be implemented on the same hardware, the decision can be kicked down the road indefinitely.
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> John
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> On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 at 10:46, Chris Fulton <chrisfulton1 at bigpond.com> wrote:
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>> Hi All,
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>> If possible can someone can provide details on Telstras progress and planning on deploying Non IP Data Delivery with NB-IoT Modems. 
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>> We're jumping the gun and would like to add support for NIDD with out remote devices. We would like to have an understanding of how it might look to push data to the device.
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>> Regards,
>> Chris Fulton
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