[AusNOG] Basic question about fibre visual fault locators

[Mark Smith]

Who said this?

" as required *by law* to touch *any of this stuff*,"


On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 21:30, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:

> learn to read what people say, or are you just trolling, again as usual.
>
> ps again, its not a license, there is no such thing, but you'll understand
> that when you learn to read
>
>
> On 26/09/2020 19:57, Mark Smith wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 14:48, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>>
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020, 14:44 Nathan Brookfield, <
>> Nathan.Brookfield at internet.asn.au> wrote:
>>
>>> See you in the big house!
>>>
>>
>> I've also committed the crime of forgetting it was an ST connector. $610
>> patch lead today!
>>
>> Hopefully the judge will reduce my sentence since I haven't seen one of
>> those for at least 20 years.
>>
>>
>
> For those who might be wondering, it is perfectly legal to do fibre
> patching, and use any tools that would help diagnose fibre issues,
> including a VFL. You only get in trouble if you don't have a licence and
> try to fixed cabling work.
>
>
> Cabling Provider Rules
> https://www.acma.gov.au/cabling-provider-rules
>
> "Work must comply with the Wiring Rules - industry standard AS/CA
> S009:2013 Installation requirements for customer cabling.":
>
> AS/CA S009:2020 INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS FOR CUSTOMER CABLING (WIRING
> RULES)
> https://www.commsalliance.com.au/Documents/all/Standards/s009
>
> "This Standard applies to the installation and maintenance of fixed or
> concealed cabling or equipment that is connected, or is intended to be
> connected, to a telecommunications network, including any cord or cordage,
> or that part of any cord or cordage, that is connected as fixed or
> concealed cabling."
>
>
>>
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>>>
>>> On 26 Sep 2020, at 11:49, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Damn. Does that mean I'm not allowed to touch fibre patch leads anymore,
>>> and have been a criminal since 1990? I knew it felt wrong to be pushing
>>> hard on a $300 MM fibre patch lead to get it to engage on the SC connector,
>>> now I know why.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathan Brookfield
>>> Secretary
>>>
>>> Internet Association of Australia Inc
>>> http://www.internet.asn.au
>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 09:57, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you (or the staff member performing this) were ACMA registered
>>>> cabler and accredited for fibre, as required by law to touch any of this
>>>> stuff, you wouldnt be asking this question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25/09/2020 18:26, Rhys Hanrahan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a pretty basic question about VFLs. I haven't used one before
>>>> but we need to trace some existing old MMF at a site and am about to buy a
>>>> cheap VFL that has a universal connector for SC, ST, FC. We need LC as all
>>>> the patch leads convert to this.  But all the LC female to SC male
>>>> connectors I can see around are either SMF, significantly more expensive or
>>>> internationally shipped. Need to get my hands on this for next week.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I understand that in normal circumstances that mixing MMF and SMF spec
>>>> equipment would be a no go, *but would it be sufficient to use a SMF
>>>> adaptor just for the purposes of fault-finding/tracing in this case?*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was looking at an adaptor like this one, coupled with a separate
>>>> cheap VFL:
>>>> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SC-Male-to-LC-Female-Single-Mode-Fiber-Optic-Hybrid-Optical-Adaptor-Converter/353200623750
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This "looks" like it is the same adaptor all the VFLs are bundling in
>>>> with the tool anyway (but they are all being shipped internationally). Is
>>>> there any reason not to settle for this? Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rhys Hanrahan
>>>> Chief Information Officer
>>>> Nexus One Pty Ltd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> E: support at nexusone.com.au
>>>> P: +61 2 9191 0606
>>>> W: http://www.nexusone.com.au/
>>>> M: PO Box A356 Sydney South, NSW 1235
>>>> A: Level 12 227 Elizabeth St, Sydney NSW 2000
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>>>> Noel Butler
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