[AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP

Thu Jul 16 16:53:25 EST 2020

Hi Stephen,

  Have you looked at another side - of perhaps sitting the SIM in an 
Android phone, on charge, and mounted indefinitely - with using a 
web-based app like Android Messages (or other SMS apps that allow you to 
login through web to get your messages etc on desktop) - then just 
call-forward always on the voice side to a SIP landing number? I'm sure 
you could also get an app (or have one developed cheap from india) that 
can package up the SMS/MMS and email it to you also - and even back the 
other way if you email it back auto sends it out.

  Not sure how 'multi-user' this will be, depends on the app and if it 
allows multiple sessions at once through the web, and it will possibly 
incur call-forward costs on the Voice side - and you can present your 
MSN as CLID on the outbound leg when required (if this is still allowed).

Thanks,
Joe

On 16/07/2020 4:33 pm, Stephen wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> They are particularly keen on keeping their numbers - will the 
> redirect cover SMS/MMS as well, or only voice? Additionally they want 
> to keep receiving calls on these same numbers, so it may not work - 
> but nonetheless, still keen to hear your response.
>
> As far as for received calls, they would be looking to actually 
> receive and talk with someone - either by redirect to another number, 
> or by actually receiving the call on a SIP trunk etc. Unfortunately 
> sounds like it may not work with you guys in this instance, but if 
> not, will definitely file it away for future reference :) Thanks!
>
> On 16 Jul 2020, at 14:50, john.h at welcorp.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen
>>
>> We at can handle inbound and outbound MMS and SMS through virtual 
>> MSISDN's, and will deliver the MMS payload via email, so you don’t 
>> have to "login" to get the MMS. Many older longcodes aren't capable 
>> of using this service so new numbers may be needed and a redirect if 
>> you need to keep your existing numbers.
>>
>> We can also terminate inbound VoIP, but we only do this with fixed 
>> line numbers, and not the same number as the SMS and MMS. Also 
>> interested to find out what you'd like to do with the call once 
>> received, eg - play a message, record a response or keypad input, and 
>> then email the response - something along those lines?
>>
>> So it all seems doable, unless you need the same mobile number to do 
>> SMS, MMS and inbound to SIP. Our solution would be inbound SMS and 
>> MMS to one number, inbound voice to another number. Hope you find the 
>> right solution.
>>
>> Cheers
>> John
>>
>> John Hoffman
>> CEO
>> WEL Corporation Pty Ltd
>> Mob/Cell +61 (0)427 185 038
>> www.welcorp.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Cameron 
>> Murray
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2020 2:27 PM
>> To: Stephen <ausnog at privanon.me>
>> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP
>>
>> We came up with a simple solution for this however not for MMS just 
>> the SMS side.
>>
>> A Small Teltonika IOT router with a $1/m SIM card from TPG. Teltonika 
>> has a built in SMS > Email feature. We looked at many options which 
>> were Hundreds of dollars per year and we got away with this for 
>> $1/Month + the initial hardware which in out case we already had.
>>
>> Keen to see what you come up with that covers MMS also.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:48 PM Stephen <ausnog at privanon.me> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Nathan,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply - not sure if that was separately directed just 
>>> at Shaun for the mobile aspect, or also at my original request, but 
>>> just to clarify I’ve spoken with Maxotel, and they offer every 
>>> aspect of the above except for MMS (currently just a feature 
>>> request). Cheers!
>>>
>>> On 16 Jul 2020, at 13:08, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Shaun,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe Maxotel may also offer a Mobile product like this as well, 
>>> it may be worth reaching out to Alex and the team and checking in on 
>>> what they can offer, they’ve got a pretty solid service.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)
>>>
>>> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Shaun
>>> Deans
>>> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2020 1:26 PM
>>> To: Stephen <ausnog at privanon.me>
>>> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I currently use an AU Mobile number hosted with Twilio and route the 
>>> inbound SMS to email (via a webhook) and our inbound calls are 
>>> routing in via SIP.
>>>
>>> Twilio's MMS in Australia is converted to an SMS by the carrier with 
>>> an embedded URL and password in the SMS. You then log into a mini 
>>> site hosted by the carrier and download the MMS attachment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With a bit of code, the login to the site could be scraped and you 
>>> could have your SMS to Email and Sip calls.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If your interested in scoping something out I can certainly assist you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Shaun Deans
>>> M: 041 880 4195
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:33 PM Stephen <ausnog at privanon.me> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Been looking for a solution that will allow us to either
>>>
>>> a) Pop some SIM cards in a device, or
>>> b) Port mobile numbers over to a VoIP provider
>>>
>>> And upon doing so, receive calls to SIP, and SMS+MMS to email. I can’t
>>> really find any products that can do this, and Twilio has confirmed
>>> they can’t do it (MMS specifically) - same with Maxotel. Most
>>> providers seem to do VoIP + SMS, but not MMS. Most devices I’ve found
>>> will either do calls but not MMS+SMS, or MMS+SMS to email but no calls.
>>>
>>> Can anyone make some suggestions around possible products? Or am I
>>> restricted to putting permanent redirects on the mobile numbers with
>>> and
>>> SMS+MMS receiving device? If so, are there any “industry standard”
>>> ones here? Specifically it’s 3 SIM cards that we need to support.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
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