Rhys Hanrahan rhys at nexusone.com.au
Fri Aug 28 13:30:41 EST 2020

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for this! I had no idea Vocus was an option so I’ll be reaching out to them.

It does seem like NBN are making things hard to try and keep out this riff raff (which I get), but it’s disappointing to hear that you’re still having trouble even after deciding to make all the necessary commitments.

We would probably be in the same boat – but from everything I’ve seen so far, even though we’re small, it would make overall business sense for us to go down this path given we can ultimately provide a better experience for our customers and us. I hope for both our sakes that you get through it okay!


From: Matthew Enger [mailto:m.enger at xi.com.au]
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN vNNI

Hi Rhys,

I would look at Vocus and Field Services Group while you are at it.

Keep in mind the NBN onboarding is time consuming.

They also have a ridiculous hurdle where they decide if they want you to onboard or not directly which I am currently fighting against so you may want to explore that before you go too far as it will take you months to get past.

For a public wholesale only network, they seem to try and shutdown anyone whom they consider small and push them to an aggregator even when I can show them it is commercially better for us to not to…

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Subject: [AusNOG] NBN vNNI

Hi Everyone,

Happy Friday.

We are looking at the feasibility of using NBN’s vNNI product so that we’re able to move to using NBNCo direct for our services. Thought I’d post here because there’s always a bunch of really insightful knowledge to be gained.

In particular, wondering if there’s any suggestions in terms of vNNI providers. It looks like there’s two main providers listed for this product (Superloop and Virtutel) – at least listed on NBN’s website. If anyone knows of others, I’d love to hear about it. Also wondering if anyone has any experiences with either that might sway me one way or another. I haven’t contacted either provider yet but I’m sure I’ll end up talking to both.

A key thing in our case is that we’d need to be able to aggregate back to EQX SY3 and ME1 only through the vNNI backhaul provider.

I’m also wondering if anyone has any experience on this and if there’s any feedback or suggestions. I am quite sure we’ll want to go down this path, provided we can make it work commercially but I’d be curious if anyone has any thoughts on at what point it made sense for them to move from an aggregator over to vNNI?

Thanks all!

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