[AusNOG] Anyone have any ancient Bay 5000/5399's lying around?

[Matthew Moyle-Croft]

> On 21 Sep 2019, at 4:05 pm, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> It's super drole that for whatever billions have been invested globally in internet security products, having a CLID tied to a physical line offers a level of security that's both physical and out of band, that's unattainable with SHA/PKI/DH etc up to your eye balls.

CLID isn’t really secure. Search for “Using SS7 to spoof CLID” and weep.

MMC

> 
> The advantage of CLID over SMS being you can make the process hands free and accessible through a serial port. Offer an accessible way to authenticate against a CLID, and the business model looks increasingly less crazy and more something useful to do with your time.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Paul Wilkins
> 
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 21:30, Tom Storey <tom at snnap.net <mailto:tom at snnap.net>> wrote:
> I did something similar at home a couple of years ago, using some Cisco routers, a bunch of BRI/PRI VIC/VWIC/NM modules and an NM-30DM. I got good old fasioned "56K" dialup working, but there was so much chatter from modern web based services that it was useless for loading websites, and even after I shut Chrome down it was still useless so maybe even modern OSes are too chatty?
> 
> My setup was something like an 1800 with an external dialup modem on the AUX port connected to a 3800 with an FXS (or was it FXO, I keep getting those two confused) VIC, VWIC'd via E1 over to another 3800 with a PRI NM and terminating on the NM-30DM. I'd also attempted to get ISDN working, but it seems that the combination of ISDN WIC/V(W)IC cards I used werent capable of exchanging data calls.
> 
> Maybe my setup wasnt 100% quite right, I got bored after some days of debugging failed ISDN data calls and packed it all away. Maybe I'd give it another shot if I could figure out how to get ISDN going. :-)
> 
> 
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 00:00, Rob Thomas <xrobau at gmail.com <mailto:xrobau at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I was reminiscing on derpbook, and realised that it would be a
> RIDICULOUSLY insane idea to try to recreate a 56k dialup ISP in 2020.
> So I'm going to do it.
> 
> To further this plan, I'm hoping that someone has some old Bay
> 5000/5399's lying around that they paid megabucks for and are now
> worth less than nothing, that they want to donate to a good home.
> 
> If one happens to be in Brisbane, that would be even better, because
> I'm heading down there for Comicon this weekend, and I could pick it
> up then!
> 
> If not, maybe some old Cisco devices? Or whatever those TNT devices
> were? Something that takes a PRI in one end and makes modem sounds at
> it, basically.
> 
> --Rob
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