[AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.

[Bradley Amm]

Well if you have your IPWAN in NZ and the internet endpoint in Australia you can ;)

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From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 1:29 pm
To: John Edwards; mike at ozonline.com.au
Cc: AusNOG
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.

FYI:

Telstra and Optus do NOT allow WIFI calling while overseas. Which sucks.  I have US sim that does and it works fine so it’s a business not technical decision.

WIFI calling is such a tiny amount of data compared to almost all other uses it seems dumb to think about blocking it. Especially when people rely so much on mobile and a lot of in-building calling can suck pretty hard. (Heck, my multi-AP, Ubiquiti wifi at home gives me better in-home coverage than any of the telcos).

MMC

On 12 Oct 2019, at 1:54 pm, John Edwards <jaedwards at gmail.com<mailto:jaedwards at gmail.com>> wrote:

Every bit of territory that your "sworn competitor" gives up by putting call data on your network instead of their private mobile network is territory that it may never get back.

Imagine what WiFi calling is doing for International roaming revenue if every call now looks like a local origination.

Rejoice in this scenario and encourage a world where a 20 billion dollar LTE network or 100 year monopoly are not prerequisites to making mobile calls - it's one of the few places where you might get a level playing field for telecommunications services.

John


On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 09:44, <mike at ozonline.com.au<mailto:mike at ozonline.com.au>> wrote:
Hi All,

So Telstra mobile services increasingly seem to revert to using
Wifi calling even in the presence of decent signal strength.

If I were a CDN wanting to connect to Telstra IP,
they'd charge me for injecting traffic into their network or for transit,
and yet Telstra is injecting traffic into our our network to carry
some of their cell traffic, without payment or agreement.

Now you might say, sure, but we're doing that for our customers not
for Telstra. But Telstra themselves will charge CDNs for delivering
content
to Telstra's customers, something Telstra's end customers are presumably
already paying for. So yeah, we know in this industry what is good for the
goose is not always good for the gander.

Another point, Telstra, who are our sworn competitors, are using our
network for Wifi calling to supplement their mobile network. Presumably
this use of their competitor's networks reduces their capital investment
requirement and supports their revenue stream by raising the
quality of their coverage. Hence Telstra's use of their competitor's networks
enhances their ability to dominate the industry, again without
any kind of settlement to their competitor ISPs.

Thoughts?

Also, anyone have any thoughts about what ACL one might put in place
to block wifi calling if one was of a mind to?

Michael
Australia On Line.





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