[AusNOG] FTTC

Beeson, Ayden abeeson at csu.edu.au
Wed May 1 11:37:34 EST 2019


That is spot on, but I haven’t seen a single quote come back that was in the price range you would actually consider going ahead with.

Admittedly that was for FTTN -> FTTP upgrades, but still I always got the feeling those “choices” were priced to make it unaffordable to regular consumers on purpose, meaning that quote price is effectively sunk money.

I’ll be very interested to see what the FTTC -> FTTP quotes come back at, it’s a lot less fibre length to run but still requires a lot of the same types of work in the end so I’m not expecting much.

Cheers,
Ayden


From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Philip Loenneker <Philip.Loenneker at tasmanet.com.au>
Date: Wednesday, 1 May 2019 at 10:07 am
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] FTTC

That’s a really good point.

If I recall correctly, if you then proceed with the technology switch, I believe that the cost of getting the quote will come off the final cost of the change.

Regards,
Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer | TasmaNet

From: Jake Anderson <yahoo at vapourforge.com>
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] FTTC

FTTC > FTTP "technology choice" switches are theoretically available if you're keen, that'll net you the 4 port NTD.
I haven't seen anybody get a price on one yet though, probably cost you $330 to find out.

On 1/5/19 9:01 am, Philip Loenneker wrote:
I remember asking them this same question, and I *think* they said you can, but I couldn’t see it in my notes… logic says that any copper pair could be used for FttC, however since they have gear in the pits that handle a limited number of services each, they may limit the number of services per premises. Obviously MDU would be a special case and should use FttB.

I do have a note that ordering FttC on inactive copper pairs has the same fees as FttN, which is around $300 once-off.

Regards,
Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer | TasmaNet

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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] FTTC

Is it possible to order more than one lead-in?


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On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:28 AM Philip Loenneker <Philip.Loenneker at tasmanet.com.au<mailto:Philip.Loenneker at tasmanet.com.au>> wrote:
From the horses mouth…
https://www.nbnco.com.au/residential/learn/network-technology/fibre-to-the-curb-explained-fttc<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZmZDk2MmIyMjVlMWY1ZGIyZj01Q0M4RTM0NF8yODcwM18xNDkyM18xJiY0YmYxOWE3MDUxYTJjODc9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGd3d3JTJFbmJuY28lMkVjb20lMkVhdSUyRnJlc2lkZW50aWFsJTJGbGVhcm4lMkZuZXR3b3JrLXRlY2hub2xvZ3klMkZmaWJyZS10by10aGUtY3VyYi1leHBsYWluZWQtZnR0Yw==>

But basically what Nathan said. You only get 1 ethernet port.

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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] FTTC

FTTC is VDSL to the DPU but the customer gets an Ethernet hand-off.

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Subject: [AusNOG] FTTC

Hey all,

FTTC... what actually is it? VDSL?

Can it support multiple services?

What sort of speeds can be attained on the NBN FTTC?

I understand that many Optus Cable people are being converted over to FTTC although it isn't entirely clear how this works.

Any ideas?

Thanks



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