[AusNOG] Telstra Insanity?

Beeson, Ayden abeeson at csu.edu.au
Thu Oct 11 16:48:30 EST 2018


The latency checks are the dead giveaway here, when it splits from 3 results to 2/1 you know you are getting equal cost split.

Cheers,
Ayden


From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Benoit Page-Guitard <benoit.page at hostopia.com.au>
Date: Thursday, 11 October 2018 at 11:50 am
To: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>
Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Insanity?

Hi Skeeve,

As Brad said, that's just ECMP working its multipath magic.

It looks like your network has two connections into Telstra's network (one each off chw-edge901 and ken-edge901), which are of unequal path lengths as seen from the perspective of your local machine (with the last hop on your network on the way to ken-edge901 not shown in the above output).

ECMP combined with a low number of UDP probes (and thus insufficient randomnness to pluck all possible paths out of the woodwork) can lead to extremely confusing ECMP traceroutes.


Try running an ICMP trace instead to get a solid idea of what (one) of your paths is like:

  $ sudo traceroute -I 1.1.1.1


Regards,

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On 10 October 2018 at 19:54, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com<mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
Hey all,

Does anyone understand this... it hurts my brain.

Skeeve-Faqtory-27:~ skeeve.stevens$ traceroute 1.1.1.1
traceroute to 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  x.x.x.10 (x.x.x.10)  0.949 ms  0.615 ms  0.585 ms
 2  x.x.x.1 (x.x.x.1)  1.169 ms  1.106 ms  1.022 ms

 3  172.18.208.9 (172.18.208.9)  19.487 ms  19.802 ms  19.576 ms
 4  172.18.66.197 (172.18.66.197)  20.170 ms
    172.18.66.193 (172.18.66.193)  20.538 ms  19.848 ms
 5  bundle-ether4.chw-edge901.sydney.telstra.net<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZmMTk0NWM1YjA5MzBlMDE4Mj01QkJFOUU1OV82MzYyN18xNDA3NV8xJiZmM2ViMDE5ZDVmZWU1N2E9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZidW5kbGUtZXRoZXI0JTJFY2h3LWVkZ2U5MDElMkVzeWRuZXklMkV0ZWxzdHJhJTJFbmV0> (203.50.12.108)  20.093 ms  20.163 ms  21.795 ms
 6  bundle-ether2.ken-edge901.sydney.telstra.net<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZmMTk0NWM1YjBmMzBlODE1Mz01QkJFOUU1OV82MzYyN18xNDA3NV8xJiY2M2ViMDE5ZDVmZWU1N2E9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZidW5kbGUtZXRoZXIyJTJFa2VuLWVkZ2U5MDElMkVzeWRuZXklMkV0ZWxzdHJhJTJFbmV0> (203.50.11.102)  20.296 ms  19.528 ms
    bundle-ether13.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZmMTk0NWM1YjBjMmRhZDEzMz01QkJFOUU1OV82MzYyN18xNDA3NV8xJiYwNjRmODFlZGRlOWI5N2I9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZidW5kbGUtZXRoZXIxMyUyRWNody1jb3JlMTAlMkVzeWRuZXklMkV0ZWxzdHJhJTJFbmV0> (203.50.11.98)  21.252 ms
 7  bundle-ether1.chw-edge902.sydney.telstra.net<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZmMTk0NWM1YjBjMzBlMDE4Mj01QkJFOUU1OV82MzYyN18xNDA3NV8xJiZmM2ViMDE5ZDVmZWU1N2E9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZidW5kbGUtZXRoZXIxJTJFY2h3LWVkZ2U5MDIlMkVzeWRuZXklMkV0ZWxzdHJhJTJFbmV0> (203.50.11.101)  19.891 ms
    bundle-ether13.ken-core10.sydney.telstra.net<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZmMTk0NWM1YjBjMmRhZDFiMz01QkJFOUU1OV82MzYyN18xNDA3NV8xJiZkN2RmODFlZGRlOWI5N2I9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZidW5kbGUtZXRoZXIxMyUyRWtlbi1jb3JlMTAlMkVzeWRuZXklMkV0ZWxzdHJhJTJFbmV0> (203.50.11.94)  22.118 ms  21.234 ms
 8  bundle-ether2.ken-edge902.sydney.telstra.net<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZmMTk0NWM1YjBmMzBlODE1Mz01QkJFOUU1OV82MzYyN18xNDA3NV8xJiY2M2ViMDE5ZDVmZWU1N2E9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZidW5kbGUtZXRoZXIyJTJFa2VuLWVkZ2U5MDIlMkVzeWRuZXklMkV0ZWxzdHJhJTJFbmV0> (203.50.11.104)  19.428 ms  20.432 ms
    bundle-ether1.ken-edge902.sydney.telstra.net<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZmMTk0NWM1YjBjMzBlODE1Mz01QkJFOUU1OV82MzYyN18xNDA3NV8xJiY2M2ViMDE5ZDVmZWU1N2E9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZidW5kbGUtZXRoZXIxJTJFa2VuLWVkZ2U5MDIlMkVzeWRuZXklMkV0ZWxzdHJhJTJFbmV0> (203.50.11.97)  20.719 ms
 9  clo2241682.lnk.telstra.net<http://antispam.csu.edu.au:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZiZGNlMTc0NTUzNzVhZDA0Mz01QkJFOUU1OV82MzYyN18xNDA3NV8xJiZkN2ZhNjA5YzBmYWYyMjQ9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZjbG8yMjQxNjgyJTJFbG5rJTJFdGVsc3RyYSUyRW5ldA==> (144.130.174.50)  20.385 ms  20.533 ms  20.532 ms
10  one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1)  20.224 ms  19.687 ms  19.703 ms

It looks like it going to Chatswood, Kent St and back and forwards. It is odd.

...Skeeve

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