[AusNOG] Sexual Harassment at AUSNOG Industry Events

Peter Tonoli peter+ausnog at metaverse.org
Mon Oct 1 13:34:31 EST 2018


 From Bevan's initial email, it appears so. If you've got a better  
suggestion, I'm sure we're all open to hearing it?

LCA's CoC isn't limited to issues of a sexual nature however: TL;DR  
they just want everyone to have a good time at their events.

Cheers,


Quoting Matt Harlum <matt at cactuar.net>:

> Do people really need a Code of Conduct to tell them not to be sex offenders?
>
>> On 1 Oct 2018, at 1:26 pm, Peter Tonoli <peter+ausnog at metaverse.org> wrote:
>>
>> To keep on charter, perhaps we need to look at preventing these  
>> issues in future?
>>
>> Looking at the AusNOG website, and the AusNOG 2018 conference sites  
>> - they appear, through my cursory look, to be devoid of a code of  
>> conduct, or similar. Perhaps, as a community, a good start would be  
>> implementing a Code of Conduct - an example I can think of is Linux  
>> Australia's, at https://linux.conf.au/attend/code-of-conduct/ .
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Peter.
>>
>>
>> Quoting Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I tend to agree with Paul - if the list charter means we can't discuss a
>>> bloody serious issue about how some of our community behave (and the fact
>>> that this behaviour is inappropriate), then I don't think I want to be on
>>> this list any more.
>>>
>>> Sweep this sort of thing under the carpet (and make no mistake, that's
>>> EXACTLY what the "STOP THREAD" was doing), and you're just enabling it to
>>> continue.
>>>
>>> If such behaviour was reported within the ITPA membership and the
>>> accusation was found to be true, the perpetrator would be excluded from the
>>> organisation. Period.
>>>
>>> I guess we find ourselves at a point where we find out what sort of group
>>> AusNOG wants to be.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 10:07, Paul Wilkins  
>>>> <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Where large chunks of our lives are winding up on line, I find it
>>>> problematic where discussion of endemic problems get ruled outside the
>>>> terms of service. It leaves the problem to fester. Discussion should be
>>>> legitimate where there's no names, so no libel.
>>>>
>>>> Also, the police will only involve themselves in instances of criminal
>>>> behaviour. Most inappropriate workplace behaviour falls short and they
>>>> won't be interested.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Paul Wilkins
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 12:46, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Bevan*,
>>>>>
>>>>> Any allegation of sexual harassment is a very serious matter and I
>>>>> encourage you to raise these issues with the appropriate  
>>>>> authorities.  The
>>>>> police are in the best position to deal with such allegations.   If I can
>>>>> be of any assistance please don’t hesitate to contact me  
>>>>> directly, off-list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *To the members of the list* - I’m sure any of you would agree that any
>>>>> form of sexual harassment is not acceptable.   As such, there is  
>>>>> no reason
>>>>> for you to follow-up to Bevan’s post.  There is nothing to debate here.
>>>>> Please note that this is a STOP THREAD post.  Please see the list charter
>>>>> below if you do not understand your obligations with relation to a STOP
>>>>> THREAD.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>> ...
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