[AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Michelle Sullivan michelle at sorbs.net
Tue Nov 27 09:52:21 EST 2018


Paul Wilkins wrote:
> If Dutton is in fact ineligible to sit, then so too is his motion to 
> introduce the Bill to Parliament. Or such is the stuff of dreams?

You are correct, if he is ineligible .. and *if he was at the time of 
the introduction* then it should be challenged as not validly 
introduced.. this will not be automatic though.

Michelle
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> Kind regards
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> Paul Wilkins
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> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 09:39, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     Seems Dutton is about to get a lesson in constitutional law:
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>     S44 (iv)  holds any office of profit under the Crown, or any
>     pension payable during the pleasure of the Crown out of any of the
>     revenues of the Commonwealth; or
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>     shall be incapable of being chosen or of sitting as a senator or a
>     member of the House of Representatives.
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>     Kind regards
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>     Paul Wilkins
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>     On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 10:34, Paul Wilkins
>     <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>         After the Department Home Affairs sitting on this Bill for
>         over a year and conducting industry consultation they claim is
>         confidential (ie: they have no one who'll go on record
>         supporting the Bill) suddenly it's a priority, and the
>         Minister for Home Affairs writes a wheedling letter to PJCIS
>         to pass the Bill before Christmas.
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>         The lack of public and industry consultation, the vague and
>         poor drafting, and then a sudden push to pass the Bill in a
>         couple of weeks, rather suggest a deliberate strategy to pass
>         a Bill that's out of all proportion to the need to combat
>         terrorism and serious crime in the context of rising use of
>         encryption.
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>         Rising use of encryption is hardly news to anyone. After all,
>         a rising tide lifts all boats.
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>         https://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=a46f0ed4-fc0d-4e95-bbd3-ef8fafe419ab&subId=663130
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>         Kind regards
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>         Paul Wilkins
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>         On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 13:56, Paul Wilkins
>         <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>>
>         wrote:
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>             /"In practice, if they balls-up the change request given
>             to the device manufacturer or app/website developer,
>             anything could happen."/
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>             Then you recall the obligation under the
>             Telecommunications Act 1997 for carriers to "do their best
>             to  protect networks and facilities". No such obligation
>             attaches to the Crown under the powers of the  Assistance
>             and Access Bill 2018.
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>             So, even if in the cases of misfeasance, non feasance, or
>             malfeasance on the part of the Crown or its  agents in the
>             implementation of TCNs/TANs/TARs, and their impact on
>             carriers businesses, liability rests, not with the Crown
>             as you might ingenuously assume, but with the carrier who
>             unwittingly acted as directed.
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>             Kind regards
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>             Paul Wilkins
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>             On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 06:38, Scott Weeks
>             <surfer at mauigateway.com <mailto:surfer at mauigateway.com>>
>             wrote:
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>                 ...the drafting certainly seems loose enough for a future
>                 government to establishthe machinery of a police state.
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>                 I'm seeing this in *NOG lists and elsewhere all over the
>                 world.  It's going to be an interesting next buncha years!
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>                 scott
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