[AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

Paul Wilkins paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 12 12:02:27 EST 2018


Matt, (IINAL)
But it appears on my reading that both 317ZG and more specifically the new
317ZGA would arguably prohibit this.

The (pending?) amendments are worth a read. Stronger terms on 317ZG and
importantly - *requirement for judicial approval of TCNs*.

317P (5)(2)(d) the designated communications provider has, if reasonably
practicable, been consulted and given a reasonable opportunity to make
submissions on whether the requirements to be imposed by the notice are
reasonable and proportionate and whether compliance with the notice is
practicable and technically feasible.


On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 at 11:30, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:

> It strikes me that all that will be needed is the phone manufacturers to
> put a screen capture and remote access ability on the phones. Then Law
> enforcement need to do is read the screens no need to involve the
> individual app makers at all.  They are after a wide and non savvy audience
> here. Looking over the shoulder of phone users is what we are talking
> about. I would say expect to see a boost in convictions of medium size drug
> distributors  and  small amateur terror type people.
>
> These are the same people that used sms before they just want that
> capability back.
>
> Matt
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> > On 12 Dec 2018, at 8:27 am, Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au>
> wrote:
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> >> On 12/12/2018 3:54 am, Scott Weeks wrote:
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> >> The Bill was passed on Thursday
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> >> Damn, I'm gonna need a bigger bag of popcorn!
> >> Waaaay bigger.  I can't wait to see how this
> >> plays out.
> >
> > We'll probably never know how this plays out, unless one of the major
> global brands
> > pulls out of the Australian market.
> >
> > Tech companies doing development in Aust will put in independent code
> reviews by an
> > offshore team to protect against onshore employees, or will quietly
> close Australian
> > development shops over years.  Some tech companies will move overseas -
> gradually,
> > over months and years.    Net result - lower demand for Australian IT
> staff, lower
> > export figures in the DFAT stats over years.
> >
> > Many 'component manufacturers or suppliers' will blithely carry on,
> unaware this might
> > apply to them at all until they receive a notice
> >
> > A massive data breach in 3 years time may not be traced back to a system
> change caused
> > as a result of a notice, or if an investigation does uncover the root
> cause, is likely
> > to be quietly hushed up.
> >
> > It'll take a massive ASIC-website-blocking-like event own-goal to
> generate demand for
> > popcorn. That or a majority of politicians starting to listen to experts
> rather than
> > agencies and repealing it, and there's precious few Andrew Wilkies
> around at the
> > moment so that's even less likely.
> >
> > P.
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