[AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

[Robert Hudson]

The amendments were not passed.  Labor decided it was too hard to work
through them, so they just approved it without the amendments.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 14:57, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well firstly, it looked like wishful thinking for a long time that Home
> Affairs would alter the Bill at all, or take any notice at all of the
> public and industry opinions. Yet here we are, with 50 pages of amendments
> passed virtually sight unseen on the final sitting day. This was the direct
> result of Home Affairs intransigence, in running a consultation process
> which meant asking for submissions, then ramming through the Bill they
> wanted.
>
> I guess it's interesting to ask who the "government" is. Dutton introduced
> the Bill, and his parliamentary eligibility is in question. The government
> of today may not be the government that administers this Bill. In fact,
> Labor can pass amendments to this Bill even now if they can get the
> requisite cross bench support.
>
> I don't think we the People, or industry, need to accept the Bill as it
> is. It was only passed as an expedient because the LEAs made the argument
> it was better to pass the Bill and subsequently amend, rather then leave
> them without the powers over Christmas.
>
> Here is the Bill that passed.
> <http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r6195_aspassed/toc_pdf/18204b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
>
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 12:25, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the thought that the government would even consider the
>> amendments now that the bill is passed is, at best, wishful thinking, no
>> matter what the PJCIS says (and in fact, I'm sure DOHA and the intelligence
>> agencies will be petitioning hard to not weaken the powers at all).
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 11:20, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> PJCIS are continuing their work and will report on the amendments *3
>>> April 2019*. They are yet to determine if they will seek public comment
>>> on the amendments.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Paul Wilkins
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 at 11:07, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/12/2018 09:00, Paul Wilkins wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Australia's war on encryption: the sweeping new powers rushed into law
>>>> - The Guardian, Paul Karp
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/dec/08/australias-war-on-encryption-the-sweeping-new-powers-rushed-into-law>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Amendments also introduce a new range of safeguards
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/05/coalitions-deal-with-labor-on-cracking-encrypted-messages-what-it-means-for-you>
>>>> including the requirement that “technical capability notices” require the
>>>> sign-off of both the attorney general and communications minister".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> roflmfao ... they call.... this.... a.... safe...guard..... hahahaha
>>>> HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Noel Butler
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