[AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

[Mehmet Akcin]

“why not make it a logical map”

:-) This is planned, also Text only mode with no graphics is too.

Mehmet

On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:48 PM Ross Marston <ross at ramtech.net.au> wrote:

> Thanks for the explanation and your point of View Mahmet.
> Unfortunately it has only served to cement my previous concerns.  Please
> put My vote as “Thanks for the offer, but… No Thanks”.  From what you’ve
> written below, I remain unconvinced that you have considered the issues
> adequately.  If you really want this to happen in a functional manner, why
> not make it a logical map.  Not Physical.
> I do however appreciate the explanation, and I for one hope you find a way
> to use your entrepreneurial powers for good in the future.
>
> Best wishes.
> Ross Marston
>
>
> From: Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net>
> Date: Monday, 3 December 2018 at 7:21 am
> To: Ross Marston <ross at ramtech.net.au>
> Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)
>
> hi Ross,
>
> thank you for your message.
>
> As we have explained in our website , http://www.networkatlas.org
> -- Network Atlas is a crowd-sourced near real-time map of the global
> Internet infrastructure detailing the world's submarine and terrestrial
> networks in real time. I am not claiming we are network planning tool. We
> are visualization of what network links are operating, and what not. If a
> network link is down, what could be potential backup links people can find
> capacity, in addition to that visualizing datacenters, cities where network
> density (both from subsea and terrestrial stand point) will enable
> enterprises to acquire capacity rapidly.
>
> Network Atlas is only the platform which enables people who has capacity
> to visualize it in a way that it can be easily consumed by Enterprise,
> Government, and various other agencies. Operational Status, Network Density
> Points, and Diverse possibilities are what we are here to "HIGH LEVEL"
> display, and let people make decisions based on that. Network Fiber owners
> will be able add networks to the map, update listings with more accurate
> information and use the atlas' near real-time data to track outages and
> identify possible areas of expansion. How are we going to make this data
> "Near realtime?" similar to how Google Maps and Waze works. We provide
> platform and mechanisms for people to report operational status. At the end
> it's all up to to community to help support the initiative, we are going to
> have people in various parts of the world, who will be editors with access
> to change status of cables, or approve status change requests reporting an
> operational issue.
>
> One of the functions we are working on providing direct connection to the
> people who can buy a capacity on a given route. We do not take commission
> for this, we are not middle man (obviously we are the platform but once the
> connection is established, people can continue to talk directly and we want
> that, we want companies who do not know how to engage directly with sales
> team to find this map useful. In most of places, teams are too small to
> have dedicated procurement teams, engineers doing this work and getting
> frustrated. We are trying , I am not saying we will be successful here, to
> make it easy for them to request a quote., once you will go to website and
> say, I want capacity on this link, it will connect you to sales people who
> will respond you directly.In future releases we are planning humbly to
> "Design my route" function which basically you select pop A and pop B, and
> it will make a design recommendation based on information we have and will
> give you an option to request a quote.
>
> The members of this list are probably do not need to use this map for
> these type of things, but i can assure you , last 6 months i have spent so
> much time with Enterprises around the world, helping them transform their
> networks, and they are super interested and excited for a tool which can
> provide a service which otherwise was a blackbox in the past.
>
> We are intentionally in the state we are with some ambiguity because we
> are working with the community on how to develop our product and make it
> most useful to most amount of people. Perhaps it is a waste of time and
> money for me to work on this from many point of view, but i believe the
> product which I envision in 1 year (which I am still crafting every day
> with new ideas) is going to be useful to many (again , not saying to
> experts in here but those who are trying to become one, as a stepping
> stone, this too might be useful...)
>
> thank you for the opportunity to expand and explain more, perhaps I should
> create a FAQ in the website and put these answer, and more.
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 11:41 PM Ross Marston <mailto:ross at ramtech.net.au>
> wrote:
> Hi Mehmet,
> I must admit I am at somewhat of a loss to see the benefit of this product
> to anyone other than those who are either, bored and have nothing better to
> do than look at network maps, or those with an interest in harming those
> networks.  I'd be fascinated to hear your view on what it's imagined
> benefit is.  Any user of a supplier's physical network can get information
> from the supplier if needed.  No one else needs to know it IMO.
>
> In my experience so far in life, collating private, sensitive information
> and publishing it publicly, and easily searchable, is nearly always a
> recipe for future disaster.  In my work in InfoSec, I can assure you, I
> don't see any upsides to this sort of info being freely and easily in the
> public domain.  I must admit to also wondering if the developers of this
> product, have considered it's potential negative impact?
> Just my 2c worth...
>
> Kind regards
> Ross Marston
>
> --
Mehmet
+1-424-298-1903
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