[AusNOG] Prediction: Google et. al. may artificially penalise IPv4 clients

Mark Delany g2x at juliet.emu.st
Mon May 1 13:17:45 EST 2017


> > Exactly. The PR risk is huge. Regardless of their altruism, US-based
> > 800lb gorillas imposing their will on under-resourced non-US ISPs is
> > not a message you want sprayed all over the twitter-verse.
> >
> 
> These under-resourced ISPs may already be zombies.

Perhaps a better choice of wording on my part might be
lesser-resourced compared to google. I.e. all ISPs in AU.

> IPv6 has been coming for a very long time

I know. I was writing about it in AUUGN over 20 years ago.

> Punishing v4 recalcitrants is fundamentally unavoidable.

The full set of choices are reward, punish or wait.

One way of moving forward is to genuinely make v4 scarce. A rich
pro-ipv6 benefactor could buy up all the v4 space that comes available
so ISPs have no choice.

But that's not cheap as there is still a *lot* of v4 space out there,
eg, MIT, DOD, IBM, Xerox, Ford and HP all have /8s. At $10 per IP what
is that, hundreds of millions of dollars?

The reality is that v4 is actually not anywhere near in short supply
yet so we have a long way to go before v4 pricing is enough incentive
for ISPs.


Mark.


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