[AusNOG] Is there such thing as peering with Telstra in Australia

[Nathan Brookfield]

Hi Paul,

Transit from AS1221 is actually quite reasonably priced as well, in most cases better pricing than the other 3 Tier 1's.

Nathan Brookfield
Chief Executive Officer

Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
http://www.simtronic.com.au

On 2 Mar 2017, at 16:16, James Andrewartha <trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

Hi Paul,

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Paul Holmanskikh wrote:
> 
> Is there any way to peer with Telsta AS1221 within Australia? They are not
> present on any IX in Australia. But it seems the only way to peer with Telstra
> is to buy transit from them.But transit from Telstra costs absolutely insane
> money. I'm looking for peering because Telstra's customers generates good
> amount of traffic on our transit links.

No. Since you're not a member of the Gang of Four, Telstra has no 
obligation or desire to peer with you (or anyone else). Some history:

http://blog.internode.on.net/2011/05/16/peering-policy-gaps-nbn/

"Historically, the ACCC recognised this problem in 1998 and took 
enforcement action to require peering between IP networks. However, the 
determination made at the time was fatally flawed. The ACCC decided 
(incorrectly) at the time that the (then) dominant four players had to 
peer – but no requirement was placed upon those four to peer with anyone 
else, ever. All subsequent requests and attempts to peer with Telstra and 
Optus since then have been rejected by those network providers."

See also https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-costs-around-the-world/

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