[AusNOG] Victorian Police - internal assistance??

[Edward Savage]

I’ve had this happen a handful of times.

I figure they spend their day helping others, in these cases almost always
assisting people in urgent need of care and help, and so in turn I can
spare the five minutes it takes to give them a rudimentary understanding of
what they need to progress in their task.

They don’t know (or honestly care) what an IP address is, they just want to
respond as quickly as possible.  It’s exactly the same as how I wouldn’t
know how to help the person they’re tracking down and would need to reach
out for help.

To each their own, and maybe some compassion.

/2cents

Edward

On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 at 12:40 Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:

> I seem to remember it was from a teleco  type division as well.  I think
> it was just a mistake when they did the whois and just could not
> understand that the info they had was not correct.
>
> I must have been wrong I did have that IP I just could not find it sort
> of thing.   (I wish I had that much address space)
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
> On 30/8/17 12:35 pm, Nikolai Lusan wrote:
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> > On Wed, 2017-08-30 at 11:14 +1000, Matt Perkins wrote:
> >> I had the WA Police contact us once asking for details for an IP that
> >> was not even with us. When I sent them a polite fax (it was fax back
> >> then) that the IP was with XYZ ISP not us. They sent me a stern letter
> >> saying if i did not co-operate they would get a court order.
> > Back in the day I used to get regular requests from QLD Police asking if
> X
> > or Y (normally came through as a list of names) was a customer of our
> ISP.
> > Pretty sure it was a group investigating child sex crimes. They seemed to
> > be looking for which ISP's a person might be using so that they could get
> > appropriate court orders to monitor what people were doing online
> > (assumedly someone had committed a crime and they were looking to gather
> > evidence).
> >
> > Although asking for details for information on an IP you had nothing to
> do
> > with seems a bit of a stretch. As far back as the mid 1990's most police
> > forces have had competent computer crimes units they could have sought
> > advice/support from to help them request the right information from the
> > right people. It also seems a bit odd that wanted information without a
> > court order, since mostly you can't hand over that kind of information
> > without a court order (it's not that you are trying to impede and
> > investigation, but that you have to have your butt covered legally).
> >
> > - --
> > Nikolai Lusan <nikolai at lusan.id.au>
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