[AusNOG] IPv6 excuses

[Mark Smith]

On 27 May 2016 at 16:15, Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:
> I wonder how long before the AG’s office realizes v6 can let them track
> usage of individual devices (for the data retention stuff), and mandates v6
> and the disabling of privacy extensions?
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Geoff discussed IPv6, privacy addresses and metadata retention quite
comprehensively in:


"Metadata Retention and the Internet"

http://telsoc.org/ajtde/2015-04-v3-n1/a4

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> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matthew
> Moyle-Croft
> Sent: Friday, 27 May 2016 2:30 PM
> To: Michael J. Carmody
> Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 excuses
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> Good work.  At the very least turning it on moves things forward.
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> Telstra have got dual stack for their residential NBN connections - so
> that’s a step forward.
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> I’m now living in the USA and both my mobile phone (Verizon in my case) and
> intert lnet (Comcast) are dual stacked.
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> MMC
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> On 26 May 2016, at 9:11 PM, Michael J. Carmody <michael at opusv.com.au> wrote:
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> As an engineer who just turned on dual-stack for a local residential ISP, we
> did it “just because”, and to be a good netizen, and for plain old
> curiousity.
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> Aside from a few tens of hours of engineering for build, test and deploy its
> pretty much cost neutral.
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> I was more afraid of additional support burden for the ISP, but this turned
> out to be a non-event (two cases in total of broken CPE just refusing to
> work with IPv6, and IPv4 breaking along with it)
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> Mind you some tangible double digit percentage are just saying “no thanks”
> during the IPCP session when offered IPv6.
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> I think about 5% of that customers transit is now native IPv6 since the
> switch over last month.
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> -Michael Carmody
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> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Aftab
> Siddiqui
> Sent: Friday, 27 May 2016 2:07 PM
> To: Mark Smith
> Cc: AusNOG Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 excuses
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> ISPs could create that incentive by making a dual IPv4/IPv6 stack
> service cheaper than a single IPv4 stack service. The answer to the
> "why" question above then becomes "because we get cheaper Internet
> access."
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> Here is the response from my residential ISP :)
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> [its an NBN 100/40 service]
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> Thank you for your e-mail.
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> We regret to inform you that we do not support native IPv6 for residential
> customers. However we can provide you an explicit 6 to 4 tunneling solution
> so that allows IPv6 packets to be transmitted over our IPv4 backbone.
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