[AusNOG] Au IPv6 doubling?

Ivan Jukic ijukic13 at gmail.com
Fri May 6 09:14:25 EST 2016


When I first ready your email though it was the new MacBook Pro
announcement. Got excited. Then saw it was IPv6 only. Still awesome.


Cheers,
Ivan

On 6 May 2016 at 09:11, Russell Langton <russell3901 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hopefully this Apple announcement will help things along....
> https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=05042016a
> At WWDC 2015 we announced the transition to IPv6-only network services in
> iOS 9. Starting June 1, 2016 all apps submitted to the App Store must
> support IPv6-only networking.
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 6 May 2016 7:10 AM, "Mark Delany" <g2x at juliet.emu.st> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 06May16, Mark Smith allegedly wrote:
>> >
>> > > Possibly, and it doesn't matter.
>> > >
>> > > https://technet.microsoft.com/library/bb877979
>> > >
>> > > Every version of Windows since then has had a host firewall
>> >
>> > Exactly.
>> >
>> > I know this has been done to death, but the idea of an CPE firewall is
>> > becoming pretty meaningless as you have 10s or 100s of IP connected
>> > devices on the inside. All containing dubious software written by
>> > not-very-caring vendors, such as IP cameras that reach back outside
>> > the network to upload streams to dropbox.
>> >
>> > I think we have to start thinking of the home network as a naturally
>> > hostile environment - just as we do the wifi network at the local
>> > coffee shop.
>> >
>>
>> I always wonder if and how often people who express this concern have and
>> do, without any concern or consideration, connect their laptop, smartphone
>> or tablet to cafe, conference, hotel, corporate or friends' networks
>> without first asking if there is a network firewall and then inspecting the
>> firewall rule set.
>>
>> If the don't (and they probably don't) then they've been implicitly been
>> relying on host security to protect them, just haven't realised it yet.
>>
>> If anything, I think the biggest threat to laptops, smartphones etc. are
>> completely unencrypted public WiFi networks (i.e. not even WEP) that are
>> "secured" using a portal. Sniffing that traffic is exceptionally easy on a
>> Linux host, as long as the Wifi card supports monitor mode. That is not a
>> special feature - it has come with the 3 laptop/desktop WiFi cards I've
>> bought since 2009 (including cheap TP-Link ones) and the NIC that came in
>> my 2013 Dell laptop, and I didn't specifically look for it as a feature
>> when buying.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mark.
>>
>> >
>> > Mark.
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