[AusNOG] Consultation on s313(3) use

Mark Smith markzzzsmith at gmail.com
Wed May 4 08:25:05 EST 2016


On 2 May 2016 7:16 PM, "Paul Wilkins" <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Mark,
> I'm glad you raised the point, as it needs to be clarified that the
purview of the s313 inquiry is "disruption" of services. It's not required
to read the data stream. For the purposes of s313 it should be sufficient
to read the SSL certificate, and then block by either white list or black
list.
>

You're assuming that the entire HTTPS website's content is "prohibited", so
this censorship can be implemented at a certificate granularity. Incorrect
assumption.

"Russia blocks Wikipedia"
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/wikipedia-blacklisted-in-russia-2015-8?r=US&IR=T


> John,
> For better or worse, we're heading to a future where SSL will not be
banned, but it will be licensed. This in my view is what's driving the
ongoing spat between the FBI and Apple.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
>
> On 2 May 2016 at 13:49, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>>
>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:41 PM, John Lindsay <johnslindsay at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> > This is easy. Just ban ssl. Sorted.
>>
>> Sure, they can do that, and we’ll all keep using it. Maybe we’ll rename
it “TLS” so we don’t have to tell them that their ban has been unsuccessful.
>>
>>   - mark
>>
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