[AusNOG] IPv6 excuses

[Serge Burjak]

Apparently due to geo overblocking, Netflix is telling people to turn
off IPV6 in the US to make their content work.

http://seclists.org/nanog/2016/Jun/24

On 31 May 2016 at 10:57, Kisakye Alex <kisakye at gmail.com> wrote:
> Reading the thread on Reddit "What's your 5 year prediction for IT?" found
> this
> "I do support for some enterprise software and.. I'm pretty sure of it.
> I haven't dealt with a single ticket where someone was trying to get
> something working with IPv6.. and I would need to cram because I know just
> about nothing about it. Seems the most it comes up is when something
> randomly decides to use IPv6 instead of IPv4 for communication and it breaks
> everything and then everyone's response is to turn off IPv6 and call it a
> day"
>
> Full thread can be found here
> https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4j5ua7/whats_your_5_year_prediction_for_it/
>
> Alex
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 29/05/2016 11:52, Mark Newton wrote:
>>
>>>> You might argue that end users should deal with this themselves, but
>>>> many end users are either incapable or uninformed, and if it's trivial
>>>> to provide protection at the CPE with minimal impact, how is this a bad
>>>> idea?
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this seriously an excuse for not deploying IPv6? That IPv6 should not
>>> be
>>> deployed because people on the IPv4 internet suffer application-based
>>> attacks?
>>>
>>
>>
>> ISP's do not block traffic to any IPv4 address to "protect" end users,
>> they might block odd ports, say 25, etc, but thats not to protect E/U, its
>> to stop E/U running mail servers, Optusnet did this when Singtel took them
>> over from C&W back in 2000, but I don't think even they do know...
>>
>> If your ISP isn't (and they aint) responsible for protecting E/U on IPv4
>> why do some think they should on IPv6....
>>
>> NAT offers limited security by accident, it wasn't AFAIK a deliberate
>> design "selling point", I have security camera network at home, its system
>> talks automagically opens its port to the world by default.. so those on
>> IPv4 who think they are protected, likely have little idea as to how little
>> they are...
>>
>> I would rather my ISP not fsck with my connection - its up to me to secure
>> my devices
>>
>> So Marks right, its hardly a reason, in fact, its bottom of the barrel
>> lazy excuse.
>>
>> PS
>> Yes, my camera network is secured :)
>> PPS
>> No I dont have native IPv6 (/me looks at TPG)
>>
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