[AusNOG] DR access for civil litigants, here it comes

Jake Anderson yahoo at vapourforge.com
Tue Dec 20 23:40:40 EST 2016


>From 
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/how-team-of-pre-teens-found-whisteblower-using-metadata/8113668

"Basically what happened was we found the data that had the Google 
searches and the ones that corresponded with searches the whistleblower 
would use. We then found the IP address they used with the Google 
searches and we linked the IP address to their email. We used the email 
to find their phone number and their address."

So, it looks like it'd be just about that trivial if you have UK style 
we'll snarf your search page view laws as well. (presuming google wasn't 
https these days, prescient that)

On 20/12/16 20:14, Joshua D'Alton wrote:
> Hold up.... this is a "game" which has been built and populated with 
> metadata far beyond what in reality will be obtained or could be 
> correlated.
>
> And then, apparently a bunch of 12yr olds manage to 'crack the case' 
> in only 2 hours? Don't know who or why this challenge even came to be, 
> but its as realistic as "hacking" scenes you see on TV...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com 
> <mailto:markzzzsmith at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>      Browsing twitter, come across a Cryptome tweet, which can be
>     interesting, and then it's ... WT*?!
>
>     https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/811118431852523520
>     <https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/811118431852523520>
>
>
>     On 20 Dec. 2016 2:27 pm, "Noel Butler" <noel.butler at ausics.net
>     <mailto:noel.butler at ausics.net>> wrote:
>
>         I'm sure this will surprise no one here...
>
>         https://www.ag.gov.au/Consultations/Pages/Access-to-telecommunications-data-in-civil-proceedings.aspx
>         <https://www.ag.gov.au/Consultations/Pages/Access-to-telecommunications-data-in-civil-proceedings.aspx>
>
>
>           Access to telecommunications data in civil proceedings
>
>         Submissions close on Friday, 13 January 2017
>
>         The Attorney-General’s Department is inviting submissions to
>         support a review by the Minister for Communications and the
>         Attorney-General into access to telecommunications data in
>         civil proceedings.
>
>         The Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security
>         Advisory report on the Telecommunications (Interception and
>         Access) Amendment (Data Retention) Bill 2014
>         <http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/Data_Retention/Report>,
>         recommended that civil litigants be prohibited from being able
>         to access telecommunications data held by a service provider
>         solely for the purpose of complying with the mandatory data
>         retention regime.
>
>         The committee considered that as the data retention regime was
>         established specifically for law enforcement and national
>         security purposes, as a general principle it would be
>         inappropriate for data retained under the scheme to be drawn
>         on as a new source of evidence in civil proceedings.
>
>         However, the committee also indicated that it was aware of the
>         potential for unintended consequences resulting from a
>         prohibition on courts authorising access to data retained
>         under the scheme and recommended that the Minister for
>         Communications and the Attorney-General review this measure.
>
>         Consequently, section 280 of the /Telecommunications Act 1997/
>         was amended such that data retained solely for the purposes of
>         the data retention scheme cannot be used for civil
>         proceedings. That prohibition commences on 13 April 2017. The
>         provision includes a regulation making power to enable
>         appropriate exceptions to be made.....
>
>
>         --
>
>         Kind Regard,
>
>         Noel Butler
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