[AusNOG] DR access for civil litigants, here it comes

[Alan Maher]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-20/bypassing-geoblocking-shouldn't-be-considered-wrong:-report/8135212

It seems the left hand is ..............................................??

On 20/12/2016 7:51 p.m., Ross Wheeler wrote:
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>
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, Andrew McN wrote:
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>> To what extent are the copyright holders civil litigants who would be
>> excluded under this new rule?  To the extent that the move to
>> criminalise abuse of IP is thwarted, this may reduce the shift to
>> encryption, which will help keep the spooks happy.
>
> Not wanting to start a religious war, but do you really think that the 
> majority of people accessing these sites give a damn if it's a 
> criminal offence or not?.
>
> Personally, I've never even watched an episode of GoT, so I've no idea 
> what the appeal is - but many of my friends are passionate about it. 
> When it's released in the USA and all their friends are talking about 
> it on social media it affects them. When they simply CAN NOT currently 
> access it legally in this country, who is seriously surprised that 
> they seek other means? And I'm pretty sure they all know full well 
> that this is "theft", but when you create a demand and then refuse a 
> supply, I guess many of them consider (right or wrong) that they're 
> "morally justified". Most probably think they're too small for the big 
> studios to take to court. Again, that may or may not be the case... 
> but I bet it's the overwhelming view.
>
> The way the internet is constructed, and the desire of people to get 
> what they want, I believe is going to (eventually) thwart every 
> attempt made to block the "pirate sites". Everyones time and money 
> would be better spent if the rights holders simply overcame the 
> problem - by giving people what they want - timely, cost-effective and 
> easy access to their product.
>
> Yes, there will always be a few who won't want to pay for it.
> They would never have bought it anyway - and while that doesn't 
> diminish the fact that it's IP THEFT, it isn't actually income 
> forgone, because they wouldn't have made the sale at any price! (Out 
> of interest, how many people lend their "legitimate and paid for" 
> book/CD/DVD/Blueray to a friend to enjoy? Is that any less "theft"?)
>
> Seriously - distribution of online material is largely an 
> insignificant cost to the rightsholders. Depending on how they set up 
> their sales channel, the cost of taxes etc should be no more (and in 
> many cases less than or much less than) they pay for their own 
> domestic market, the end user is paying for most of the "delivery" 
> component, why should there be ANY difference? Scrap region coding, 
> scrap zone/country artificial restrictions and consumer gouging, 
> devise a fair, fast, simple distribution method and the demand for 
> sites like pirate bay will largely disappear overnight.
>
> Of course, I could be totally wrong... but the current "dumb, fat, 
> slow schoolyard bully and his legal-eze mates vs the nimble geek 
> playing whack-a-mole for fun" game just isn't working.
>
> R.
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