[AusNOG] census issues tonight

Simon Sharwood simon at jargonmaster.com
Thu Aug 11 12:45:32 EST 2016


Tough to sue for negligence when you signed off on a plan. IBM has a duty
of care to provide a design capable of doing the job. And the ABS has a
duty of care to assess it competently.

S.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Nick Stallman <nick at agentpoint.com> wrote:

> I just saw this: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2
> 016/08/10/australian_prime_minister_says_ibm_used_dud_dos_
> shield_for_failed_online_census/
>
> That quote from Turnbull would explain the lack of anyone noticing any DoS
> traffic, if they didn't implement any protections at all then anyone could
> have taken them offline.
>
> I wonder if the ABS could sue for negligence in a situation like that.
>
>
> On 11/08/16 08:55, Mark Newton wrote:
>
>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:54 AM, John Edwards <jaedwards at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So what I take from your analysis is; that the Australian Government's
>>> peak body of statisticians didn't try fitting their assumptions to a normal
>>> distribution?
>>>
>> Pretty much.
>>
>> And given the ready availability of sources like Arbor, who track DDoS
>> activity: I think we can say that if you have access to sufficient relevant
>> statistical data, it’s easy to tell when someone is lying.
>>
>>    - mark
>>
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