[AusNOG] census issues tonight

[Robert Hudson]

Why is it safe to say that the stored data is OK? What evidence do we have
to support that belief?

On 10 Aug 2016 9:52 AM, "Michael Keating" <mkeating44 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the point being made, was that the distrust of the Census has been
> increased with the failure of the website, and the mainstream media taking
> the 'hacking' angle. It's safe to say the stored data is ok, but there are
> millions more submissions to go. If people think it was 'hacked', they
> won't give a truthful answer for fear of their information being stolen
> (which we know, it won't). More of a general observation than a technical
> observation (which I do agree with).
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> In message <c7617127-36a9-f5dc-894e-727a6700e016 at spectrum.com.au>, Matt
>> Perkins writes:
>> > If you ask me the dataset is now terminally compromised. This is
>> > essentially market research and peoples ability to answer that sort of
>> > stuff truthfully goes to how much the person doing the servery is
>> > trusted. With the ABS spouting stuff like Attack from overseas, people
>> > are very unlikely to tell the truth on this census.
>> >
>> > Fellas you blew it.  Cancel the census reschedule for next year and send
>> > out paper form's Your collective uselessness just put us back 5 years.
>> >
>> > Matt
>>
>> A DoS attack does not make the dataset compromised.
>>
>> Having too small key space does.  1/100000 is not a big space for
>> computers to search through.  It's only ~20 bits of security.  A
>> extra 4 digits would have raised it to ~30 bits.  A extra 8 digits
>> would have raised it to ~43 bits.  Entering 5 x 4 digit sequences
>> is not hard.  We do 4 x 4 + 3 for every visa / mastercard transaction
>> we do online today.
>>
>> Mark
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