[AusNOG] Telstra IPv6 Wireless Enablement

Damien Gardner Jnr rendrag at rendrag.net
Thu Aug 4 10:16:08 EST 2016 

Morning Sunny,

The 'problem' was that the home servers were dual-stacked - but the V6
addresses come down an EOIP tunnel from work - when we shifted house, we
were using Telstra Air for 3-4 weeks (Mikrotik Groove-52, with a 26db mesh
dish - hitting a Telstra Air AP in someone's house just on 1km away), with
the /28 for home over an SSTP tunnel over the top of that.  I'd been a
little lax with bothering sending the V6 over that tunnel as well..  Then
my missus stopped being able to get to the home servers (or at least,
having a 30-second or so delay on first contact each time) when not at
home, and after some mucking around, I realised that V6 had appeared on our
mobiles!   I had to pull my finger out, and push the EOIP tunnel which
carried our V6 addresses, over the top of the SSTP tunnel we were using.
 (yes, tunnels, over tunnels ;)

Thanks for your hard work, getting V6 happening on mobile - it's nice to
see someone in .au putting V6 on customer devices! :)

On 4 August 2016 at 10:05, Sunny Yeung <xevious60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Damien
>
> Thanks for your e-mail. I would like to know more about how you got around
> the problem. We have had our APNs enabled for a few months now while we are
> getting all our users ready before the launch so some of our 'BYOD' users
> have started seeing IPv6 already.
>
> Sunny
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 at 06:58 Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net>
> wrote:
>
>> The thing that has me confused, is we've been getting IPv6 addresses
>> handed out on Telstra Mobile for at least 4-5 months? I remember having to
>> 'fix' the IPv6 tunnel to home after we moved, because the missus couldn't
>> get to one of our home servers while out of the house, as it was trying the
>> v6 address from DNS first, which wasn't responding.. :)
>>
>> On 3 August 2016 at 23:50, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It is great to see Telstra moving to IPv6 on the mobile network.
>>> Hopefully we see support on retail fixed line services (ADSL, cable, etc)
>>> soon too...
>>>
>>> On 3 Aug 2016 10:48 PM, "Sunny Yeung" <xevious60 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi AusNOGgers!
>>>>
>>>> As a first step in our transition to IPv6, Telstra is proud to announce
>>>> the availability of IPv6 to the general public on Telstra Wireless by the
>>>> end of August/early September 2016. This means when you attach your mobile
>>>> device to the Telstra network on Telstra.WAP or Telstra.Internet APNs,
>>>> depending on your device configuration, you will receive both an IPv4 and
>>>> IPv6 address from the network.
>>>>
>>>> Note that the enablement is currently targeted at post-paid services
>>>> only.
>>>>
>>>> Some more official announcements will be provided over the next few
>>>> weeks so keep an eye out for more information.
>>>>
>>>> *Overview*
>>>>
>>>>    - IPv6 is a new internet protocol for the future. It contains a new
>>>>    addressing format for devices and applications to connect and communicate
>>>>    over the global internet.
>>>>    - Due to the exhaustion of IPv4 addresses worldwide, Telstra is
>>>>    preparing our mobile customers by introducing IPv6 addresses for each
>>>>    service.
>>>>    - Telstra’s goal for activating IPv6 is to provide the same service
>>>>    as IPv4, but with a more modern protocol which will allow for future growth
>>>>    of the Internet, and support for future technologies such as IoT.
>>>>    - The Long Term strategy is to use IPv6 only for the entire network
>>>>    end-to-end.
>>>>    - IPv6 is live on the standard Telstra.WAP and Telstra.Internet
>>>>    APNs. Access to IPv6 requires further configuration on the user device,
>>>>    which Telstra will provide automatically at a later date.
>>>>
>>>> *How much does it cost?*
>>>>
>>>>    - It is available at the same cost as existing IPv4 services for
>>>>    all Telstra customers
>>>>
>>>> *Will IPv6 change the way I use the internet?*
>>>>
>>>>    - There is no direct change in usage experience.
>>>>    - Network administrators and IT professionals who manage network
>>>>    equipment and internet applications should start planning for using the new
>>>>    addressing structure so that their systems and applications are also
>>>>    accessible using IPv6 addresses.
>>>>    - As IPv4 will be in place for many years to come across the
>>>>    general internet, more advanced users may change to enable IPv6 at their
>>>>    own pace over the coming 2+ years.
>>>>
>>>> *How will I know if I am using IPv6 or have IPv6 available?*
>>>>
>>>>    - Depending on if you have a device with IPv6 enabled or not, one
>>>>    can visit ipv6.test-ipv6.com to test their IPv6 connection. This
>>>>    page will not load if one is not using IPv6.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok now that we’ve gotten the fluffy stuff out of the way…
>>>>
>>>> *What you will experience over the next few months…*
>>>>
>>>> The enablement will be carried out over two phases. Phase 1 is really a
>>>> network function ready announcement and deployment for Dual-Stack support.
>>>> This means the network is ready to carry both IPv4 and IPv6 traffic.
>>>> Fundamentally there is no difference between the two APNs at this stage.
>>>> This is what we will be releasing by the end of August/early September.
>>>>
>>>> Phase 2 is where it will get interesting. We will begin enabling
>>>> Single-Stack IPv6 devices on Telstra.WAP, and maintaining devices that
>>>> attach to Telstra.internet as dual-stack. There are some good reasons for
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> 1.       Single-Stack IPv6 resolves some issues with private IPv4
>>>> address depletion. We will be doing this with 464XLAT+NAT64+DNS64 on
>>>> telstra.wap. This setting is primarily targeted at handsets and tablets. We
>>>> will be updating handsets and tablets that can support this with the
>>>> updated carrier settings via Maintenance updates in the very near future.
>>>> Almost all android handsets released over the last year by Telstra already
>>>> supports 464XLAT, and it just requires a carrier setting update :)
>>>>
>>>> 2.       Telstra.Internet is primarily used for dongles, BYOD tablets,
>>>> WIFI Modems and tethering etc. we have no idea what’s on the other end and
>>>> whether it supports IPv6. So we are leaving it alone as dual-stack for the
>>>> time being. This APN will continue to use our regular DNS with no
>>>> NAT64/DNS64 so single-stack IPv6 users beware on this APN!
>>>>
>>>> Technically single-stack is working today already on Telstra.wap, and
>>>> we are just ironing out some teething issues, but officially we are going
>>>> to be announcing Dual-Stack support first. The network has technically been
>>>> running with IPv6 enabled for about 3 years already, and if you didn’t
>>>> know, VoLTE is entirely IPv6 only.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Why is AusNOG hearing this now?*
>>>>
>>>> Apart from being a fantastic community forum, I feel it is important
>>>> that our technical community is aware of our changes first. As with all
>>>> things there will be teething problems when we launch. We have already
>>>> identified issues with IPv6 addressing interacting with some embedded
>>>> wireless adapters and Windows 8.1. (it just fails until the interface is
>>>> reset). We have done testing with certified Telstra equipment but we cannot
>>>> possibly test every application / OS. So far in our testing, the network
>>>> appears to be responding correctly to IPv4v6 requests, but we know that
>>>> community engagement will be important on launch to keep the IPv6 momentum
>>>> going. The last thing we want is to roll back to IPv4!
>>>>
>>>> To make sure we get a 2nd opinion, we have also engaged an external
>>>> organisation to help us test, and they have been helping us with testing
>>>> for a better part of one year already, and have reported minimal issues so
>>>> far. I want to take an opportunity to thank APNIC for their efforts, their
>>>> patience while we got everything up and running.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *I want to connect now!*
>>>> Go right ahead! just be warned official support is not yet available
>>>> until we officially launch in a few weeks. but i'll do my best to help.
>>>> First you need a Telstra post-paid service. You need to create a new APN in
>>>> your device and then save it and select it:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Non-Mobile device:Dual-Stack*
>>>> APN profile: telstra.internetDS
>>>> APN name: telstra.internet
>>>> APN type: default
>>>> APN protocol: IPv4/IPv6
>>>> APN roaming protocol: IPv4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Mobile device:*
>>>>
>>>> *select telstra.wap APN not any others*
>>>> APN profile: telstra.wapv6
>>>> APN name: telstra.wap
>>>> APN type: default,hspl
>>>> APN protocol: IPv4/IPv6 (you can set this to IPv6 only as well)
>>>> APN roaming protocol: IPv4
>>>>
>>>> APN name: telstra.internet
>>>> APN type: dun
>>>> APN protocol: IPv4/IPv6
>>>> APN roaming protocol: IPv4
>>>>
>>>> *Contacting us*
>>>>
>>>> Telstra will be creating contact points in Crowdsupport, and a special
>>>> email address to which will be shared later where you can engage with our
>>>> engineering team directly when required. For the meantime, I am reachable
>>>> if you have any specific questions. We want to work with the community to
>>>> make this a smooth transition as much as possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sunny Yeung
>>>>
>>>> sunny.yeung at team.telstra.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Damien Gardner Jnr
>> VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust
>> rendrag at rendrag.net -  http://www.rendrag.net/
>> --
>> We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
>>  We ran to the sounds of thunder.
>> We danced among the lightning bolts,
>>  and tore the world asunder
>>
>


-- 

Damien Gardner Jnr
VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust
rendrag at rendrag.net -  http://www.rendrag.net/
--
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
 We ran to the sounds of thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
 and tore the world asunder
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