[AusNOG] Which NBN RSP are using PPPoE vs IP

[James Mcintosh]

The problem is someone has to enter the username and password into the CPE.
That is either the customer or our provisioning team. This adds both a support burden (i.e. "I lost my password", modem reset situations) or a provisioning burden (needing to send CPE pre set up with username and pw).
Even though the systems and processes plug into existing DSL infrastructure, it will be nice to start fresh with the new NBN world.
Most routers come out of the box configured as DHCP clients on the WAN port. It's much easier to tell the customer to just plug into the yellow port and you're online rather than having to walk them through logging into the router and setting up PPP credentials. 

    On Wednesday, 6 April 2016, 10:38, Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au> wrote:
 

 You are restricted to PPPoE because AAPT tunnel switch the connections for NWB.
PPPOE is ridiculously easy and simple, I don't see the problem HAHA.

Nathan BrookfieldChief Executive Officer
Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltdhttp://www.simtronic.com.au
On 6 Apr 2016, at 10:29, "paul+ausnog at oxygennetworks.com.au" <paul+ausnog at oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:

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Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2016 10:18 AM
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Subject: [AusNOG] Which NBN RSP are using PPPoE vs IP    To all the NBN RSPs on list.    For NBN (FTTP and VDSL) subscribers are you using PPPoE to authenticate user CPE or straight IP/DHCP?    Correct me if I'm wrong but it would seem to me that Telstra and iiNet are the only NBN RSPs that use straight IP rather than PPPoE.    We are using AAPT's NWB which forces us to use PPPoE. This obviously adds both a network and support overhead and I'm wondering if there is any way to do straight out IP like Telstra and iiNet are doing. Interestingly it would seem that even TPG does NBN auth with PPPoE which seems odd given they and iiNet are one. _______________________________________________
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