[AusNOG] Long live our new Communications Minister

[Matt Smee]

Perhaps the problem lies in the public nature of companies that are big 
enough to make their own 'private NBN'. Compare Telstra or Optus to 
AARNet - one is for profit, one is not for profit. One innovates and 
invests largely in infrastructure primarily for empowering its 
customers, one exists to make its shareholders happy. One tells me 'hey 
we're going to work with you to migrate you to our new backbone and 
upgrade the CPE', one tells me "'>=1.5mbps is fine you don't need a 
technician'...

NB: I may have a bit of bias, and don't mean to undermine the primarily 
good-willed efforts of ISPs :).

-Matt

On 15/09/15 21:54, Mark Newton wrote:
> I'm not abusing you, I'm pointing out that as an industry you don't have your shit together.
>
> The fact that you perceive that as abuse is part of the problem.
>
> Other industries of your scale influence their own destiny. Yours doesn't. Why do you think that is?
>
>     - mark
>
>
> On 15 Sep 2015, at 21:11, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au> wrote:
>> Far too harsh mark.
>>
>> That's like suggesting we've done something wrong by only investing millions or billions of dollars in telecoms infrastructure and that we deserve abuse for not rolling out a private version of the nbn.
>>
>> If someone had of sufficient girth had emerged earlier on,seeking to do that they'd have been accused of cherry picking. Surely a monopoly is worse than that?
>>
>> -P
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 15 Sep 2015, at 8:38 pm, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 Sep 2015, at 3:10 pm, Karl Auer <kauer at biplane.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 2015-09-15 at 09:21 +0800, Damian Guppy wrote:
>>>>> who could be competent with the portfolio? We don't need
>>>>> another Conroy or Minchin...
>>>> After the last couple of years, Conroy looks pretty bloody good!
>>> The ISP industry earns billions of dollars, employs tens of thousands of Australians, and reaches into almost every household in the nation.
>>>
>>> If it was grown up and mature, it wouldn't matter who the minister was, and you all wouldn't have to second-guess the magnitude of business risk you'll have to carry due to side effects of Government policy.
>>>
>>> What are you all doing to make sure that you can survive and thrive under a Turnbull Government?
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