[AusNOG] ACCC pushes for consumer internet speed test, telcos aren't keen on the idea

Bevan Slattery bevan at slattery.net.au
Sun Sep 13 21:39:56 EST 2015


This is not a foreign concept.  Telstra L2 xDSL started out being only available at 66 Voice interconnect points before being state based at the same 14 PoI's.  That and providers being able to access SSS and ULL at the exchange created a very, very vibrant market and again demonstrates that giving providers a choice to add value in the supply chain is in the interests of consumers through leveraging competitive investments in infrastructure.

This did not need to be one or the other and in fact in most other markets where this has been done it hasn't.

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> On 13 Sep 2015, at 8:52 pm, Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Right -
> Lets say the ACCC had ruled to do what everyone here wants, to aggregate all Australia
> to two redundant super-POIs in each major capital city, just like Telstra wholesale ADSL.
> Every end-user tail circuit, residential and corporate, is migrated to the NBN.
> 
> Lets take it a step further - NBN link the PoIs together, so any ISP can hook up to
> just a single POI and achieve blanket national coverage. Two or three POIs provides
> redundancy against POI failure.
> 
> The AVC and CVC charges are higher, as NBNCo now has to pay for all the long-haul
> transmission all over the country, and recover that in extra service charges. Probably
> not as much as the extra costs of backhaul ISPs currently incur to reach 121 POIs,
> since NBN would have ultimate economy of scale carrying every bit of traffic.
> 
> Who wins?
> Who loses?
> Who goes out of business in 5 years? 10 years?
> 
> 
>> On 13/09/2015 7:59 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
>> I think the whole DOD idea is a bit far fetched and with respect I think the model was put tougher a bit quick to take things into account  like network resilience.  The plane facts here are that to shrink the number of POI's would allow Joe blogs ISP. China telecom or whomever to compete with Telstra. Now Telstra has many mum and dad investors. But worse still it has many super funds investing in it.  For a government to devalue Telstra in such a way is not only political  suicide it would also require them to prop up some people in retirement due to their ailing funds and their reliant on people like Telstra. 
>> 
>> The large number of POI models favours the incumbent carrier that happens to have most of their exchanges co-located. 
>> 
>> Matt.
> 
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