[AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250

John Edwards jaedwards at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 13:43:18 EST 2015 

Nick, you might have something there about the punters and Fibre == NBN.

Check out this marketing that uses that idea:

http://www.optus.com.au/business/broadband-internet/office/elite#Elite%20Broadband

"Optus Evolve’s fibre lines (think NBN) allow for internet speeds of up to
300Mbs. "

It would appear that you can just use that three-letter-acronym to save
yourself the trouble of describing the benefits of fibre.

Further to Skeeve's commentary, my place now has NBN FTTH, Telstra HFC and
Telstra PSTN. It will be interesting to see if I get an option to have
"both kinds" of NBN, or if they just mothball the coax network once Foxtel
are done with it.

John


On 30 October 2015 at 12:48, Nick Brown <Nick.Brown at vocus.com.au> wrote:

> It’s not just limited to building managers, NBN is quickly becoming
> synonymous with fibre to the average punter.
>
>
>
> My accountant was recently telling me how it was unfair that the office
> next door to his had just received FTTP and how he was preparing to
> complain to NBN, before I pointed out that it was our network…
>
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>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Nick Brown** | Carrier Relations*
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Matt
> Perkins
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 October 2015 1:07 PM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250
>
>
>
> Hay Skeeve,
>  Is there a chance your building manager Said NBN but means TPG.  Our
> building manager was saying NBN to me when FirstPath (Hi Stephen) was
> installing and then he said NBN to me again when TPG started installing.  I
> have found that Building managers seem to use the word NBN for anything
> that is fast broadband.  Doesn't help that people like TPG's documentation
> says "NBN Style super fast broadband on it" . TPG tries to use a bit of
> smoke and mirrors to so there will be less push back from building managers
> and owners corps that are clueless. (who can blame them)
>
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
>
> On 30/10/2015 12:57 PM, Stephen Carter (FirstPath) wrote:
>
> Happy Friday all,
>
>
>
> I would agree, we see competitors saying that they are connecting soon but
> in fact they have no fibre in the street & or short term plans to do so.
> This practice really just results in OC’s becoming confused & less
> competition etc. FirstPath generally disregard these statements by other
> carriers and build regardless to deliver end user service.
>
>
>
> As far as the “three addresses” issue is concerned this is common and hard
> to overcome as different information sources use different addresses:
> Owners, tenants, Land Titles, Google, Whereis etc … some even have the same
> buildings in different suburbs and postcodes. I have seen some with 8 or
> more addresses, if its any comfort it’s equally frustrating for carriers…
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> *Stephen Carter*
>
> FirstPath
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Thorpe
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 October 2015 12:42 PM
> *To:* Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com>;
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW
>
>
>
> Skeeve,
>
>
>
> Aside from direct information from nbn™ which seems to be hard to come by,
> http://www.mynbn.info/ collates most publicly available information to
> provide some sense of what activity is happening where.
>
>
>
> I’ve noticed a lot of existing developments around Glebe/Ultimo/CBD  being
> classified as “High Value Builds”, likely in response to TPG’s aggressive
> push to install FTTB wherever it can.
>
>
>
> nbn’s product roadmap (
> http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf)
> indicates that they don’t have HFC being part of an official product
> release until Q2 2016, so you will almost certainly be left with FTTN.
>
>
>
> It’s starting to look like there’s a lot of overbuilding going on to
> secure these “high value” buildings whereas there are areas that are far
> down the 3 year plan that currently have nothing.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve Stevens
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 October 2015 12:29 PM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm confused.
>
>
>
> I live in a complex in Glebe which big and takes an entire block (over 100
> units).  We have 3 addresses on 3 sides of the block.
>
>
>
> The complex has Telstra Bigpond Cable and it has worked fine for the 2
> years we've been here.
>
>
>
> I've heard from the building manager that NBN is about to be installed...
> and should be ready in a couple of weeks.
>
>
>
> *blink* ?
>
>
>
> Firstly, the new rollout from NBN says Glebe area is 2018, but also says
> it is HFC.
>
>
>
> I assuming they aren't doing FTTH... the internal cabling costs on that in
> this place would be insane.... so I assume it is HFC upgrades of some
> kind?  I didn't think that NBNCo was actually upgrading anything in the
> complexes?
>
>
>
> Also, does anyone know if there is someone I can talk to at NBN about
> their rollout addressing... as while 2 of our address sides come up in the
> NBN lookup tool as coming soon, one of them doesn't... but it is all the
> same infrastructure.
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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