[AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250
Stephen Carter (FirstPath)
stephen.carter at firstpath.com.au
Fri Oct 30 13:35:52 EST 2015
FYI, Static IP functions on FirstPath's plus other features "out of the box"
Stephen Carter
From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Shannon Stadtmiller
Sent: Friday, 30 October 2015 1:32 PM
To: Jonathan Thorpe <jthorpe at Conexim.com.au>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250
Hey Jonathan,
A few partners are building it at the moment from a layer 2 perspective.
For a static IP wondercom do not offer this as part of their service, just like the layer 3 option for wholesale - it does not come with a static IP :)
FTTB is a residential grade product and does not get supplied to metro commercial buildings, only to residential apartment complexs, so unless your customer is in a condo with CCTV they shouldn't require a static IP - however if they do you can build it via Layer 2.
From: Jonathan Thorpe [mailto:jthorpe at Conexim.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 30 October 2015 1:29 PM
To: Shannon Stadtmiller; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250
Hi Shannon,
Are you aware of anyone retailing the Layer-2 wholesale offering?
TPG/Wondercom have effectively crippled the FTTB service for anyone requiring a static IP address meaning that any current retailers offering the Layer-3 "managed" service are also in this segment.
I understand this could be to avoid cannibalising the higher value fibre offerings available in many of these buildings, but it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense for TPG/Wondercom to be deploying this infrastructure in office buildings (as is the case) without offering services that incorporate features typically associated with a plan suited to a small business.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250
Hey Everyone,
AAPT Wholesale, TPG Retail & Wondercom can all offer high speed FTTB VDSL/UBE to select buildings in Glebe, Ultimo & Pyrmont (aswell as other suburbs nationally) with speeds ranging from 50mbps to 100mbps at an amazing price per month.
The solution is rolling out a rapid rate so feel free to give the guys a call to see if your building qualifies - I use it myself at home in Pyrmont - I was on pair gains getting 1.5mbps - I now get 79mbps down for a fraction of what I was paying with the incumbent
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250
Look up your address on mynbn.info it tends to identify what tech is expected.
On 30/10/15 13:10, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
I've asked him to escort me into our main MDF room..... it has a keypad lock, not a NMB key
But, the NBN Website actually does say we're in build... so I assume it is them... just doesn't say what technology.
Is that something that is query-able ?
...Skeeve
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au<mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
Hay Skeeve,
Is there a chance your building manager Said NBN but means TPG. Our building manager was saying NBN to me when FirstPath (Hi Stephen) was installing and then he said NBN to me again when TPG started installing. I have found that Building managers seem to use the word NBN for anything that is fast broadband. Doesn't help that people like TPG's documentation says "NBN Style super fast broadband on it" . TPG tries to use a bit of smoke and mirrors to so there will be less push back from building managers and owners corps that are clueless. (who can blame them)
Just a thought.
Matt.
On 30/10/2015 12:57 PM, Stephen Carter (FirstPath) wrote:
Happy Friday all,
I would agree, we see competitors saying that they are connecting soon but in fact they have no fibre in the street & or short term plans to do so. This practice really just results in OC's becoming confused & less competition etc. FirstPath generally disregard these statements by other carriers and build regardless to deliver end user service.
As far as the "three addresses" issue is concerned this is common and hard to overcome as different information sources use different addresses: Owners, tenants, Land Titles, Google, Whereis etc ... some even have the same buildings in different suburbs and postcodes. I have seen some with 8 or more addresses, if its any comfort it's equally frustrating for carriers...
Kind regards
Stephen Carter
FirstPath
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW
Skeeve,
Aside from direct information from nbn(tm) which seems to be hard to come by, http://www.mynbn.info/ collates most publicly available information to provide some sense of what activity is happening where.
I've noticed a lot of existing developments around Glebe/Ultimo/CBD being classified as "High Value Builds", likely in response to TPG's aggressive push to install FTTB wherever it can.
nbn's product roadmap (http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf) indicates that they don't have HFC being part of an official product release until Q2 2016, so you will almost certainly be left with FTTN.
It's starting to look like there's a lot of overbuilding going on to secure these "high value" buildings whereas there are areas that are far down the 3 year plan that currently have nothing.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Subject: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW
Hi all,
I'm confused.
I live in a complex in Glebe which big and takes an entire block (over 100 units). We have 3 addresses on 3 sides of the block.
The complex has Telstra Bigpond Cable and it has worked fine for the 2 years we've been here.
I've heard from the building manager that NBN is about to be installed... and should be ready in a couple of weeks.
*blink* ?
Firstly, the new rollout from NBN says Glebe area is 2018, but also says it is HFC.
I assuming they aren't doing FTTH... the internal cabling costs on that in this place would be insane.... so I assume it is HFC upgrades of some kind? I didn't think that NBNCo was actually upgrading anything in the complexes?
Also, does anyone know if there is someone I can talk to at NBN about their rollout addressing... as while 2 of our address sides come up in the NBN lookup tool as coming soon, one of them doesn't... but it is all the same infrastructure.
...Skeeve
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