[AusNOG] Data retention

[Kai Jones - Your Independent Candidate for the Senate]

Not sure who has seen this but it may be useful:

Data Retention begins: Scott Ludlam's questions for Attoney-General George Brandis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTw3Cosyny8

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From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Tim Raphael <raphael.timothy at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 October 2015 9:51 AM
To: Tim Coombs
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Data retention

I'm afraid that comments like this just add gasoline to the flames that is all the misinformation flying around in the media regarding DR.

Regards,

Tim Raphael

> On 14 Oct 2015, at 4:25 AM, Tim Coombs <timc at slowb.ro> wrote:
>
> Im sorry Mr. Pink,
> But you seem to be misinformed about TOR. The only way in which you can undoubtedly know who a single person is on tor is controlling the Entry and Exit nodes. If you can control both you can do a timing correlation attack. This is a known issue and for more information on in please refer to https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#AttacksOnOnionRouting
> Could you sight a paper or technical article for your reasoning/belief that TOR is 'unsafe'?
>
> Now while I do not mean to personally attack you, I do believe that TOR should be people's first point of call in anonymizing their retention data. And pose the question to the whole list if they have any technical documents of TOR's failings (reply off list). As a VPN is a single entity/company that could easily be strong armed to turning on logging and then you end up in the same boat as others.
>
> Why pay money to a company when there is a free, community run option?
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>> On 13 October 2015 12:44:32 pm AEDT, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 13 October 2015 at 10:00, Mister Pink <misterpink at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The privacy/anonimity of TOR is known to have been broken a while ago.
>> Sorry.
>>
>>> Lets agree on this list to call a spade a spade, and not concede
>> moral
>>> high ground to people who may not deserve it...