[AusNOG] Fwd: [Internet Australia - members] Net neutrality

[James Hodgkinson]

I meant to respond to that point as well, but had a few moments of mail
fail.

Just to be clear, my understanding of "zero rating" is not affecting the
user's download limit. Ignore the rest of this as an incoherent rant if
that's wrong.

So in my home ISPs example (Internode):

- Netflix has caching nodes which have iiNet rDNS names, ostensibly
because Netflix has made a large (given the range of IPs) investment in
hardware on their network
- Internode offer it to their customers without hitting their caps
- without (I'm guessing, given vague mentions around the place) taking
any money from Netflix

And they're doing something wrong? So the file mirrors (including
commercial content), gaming servers and all the other things they've
spent money on doing for years are OK, but as soon as it's a larger
two-party arrangement it's bad? 

The actions some ISPs are taking are downright reprehensible, holding
companies to ransom by *negatively* impacting their services, unless
they pay up. I won't condone that - but this is a different matter
surely? 

James

On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, at 21:35, fiberrun at mail.com wrote:
> James Hodgkinson wrote:
> > "(c) providing some content providers advantages over others, that is
> > also to your benefit, such that their content is more attractive to
> > customers, disadvantaging their competitors? (e.g., zero metering one
> > but not all VoD content providers traffic)"
> > 
> > So if a big player like Akamai, Netflix, or Google offers to throw a
> > couple of cache nodes in your racks and a) reduce your
> > international/edge traffic b) provide better services to your customers
> > and c) potentially more customers for both of you, you're going to turn
> > that down in the interests of Neutrality?
> 
> I think you missed the pertinent part of Mark's quote, i.e. applying zero
> rating. What you describe is a cost saving, which nobody would turn down.
> Where it becomes a Net Neutrality issue is when you then chose to apply
> zero rating to those providers that offer you cost savings or other
> incentives. As long as you just keep the money it's all good :) 
> 
> It's when you start playing favorites that things get hairy.
> 
> Jared