[AusNOG] Fwd: [Internet Australia - members] Net neutrality

[James Hodgkinson]

"(c) providing some content providers advantages over others, that is
also to your benefit, such that their content is more attractive to
customers, disadvantaging their competitors? (e.g., zero metering one
but not all VoD content providers traffic)"

So if a big player like Akamai, Netflix, or Google offers to throw a
couple of cache nodes in your racks and a) reduce your
international/edge traffic b) provide better services to your customers
and c) potentially more customers for both of you, you're going to turn
that down in the interests of Neutrality?

... why? Are you a not-for-profit?

James

On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, at 16:43, Mark Smith wrote:


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On 24 Nov 2015 8:49 AM, "Skeeve Stevens"
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> Ziggy wants to have a discussion about Net Neutrality.  Well, he should join Ausnog where everyone is and have that discussion.
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> Define network neutrality. Is it


> (a) applying QoS, so that latency sensitive apps get priority over bulk throughout apps?


> (b) artificially creating congestion so that then you can force content providers to pay you to make their content uncongested? ("Fastlanes")


> (c) providing some content providers advantages over others, that is also to your benefit, such that their content is more attractive to customers, disadvantaging their competitors? (e.g., zero metering one but not all VoD content providers traffic)


> (d) blocking a content provider's website, then ransoming access to your customers' eyeballs?


> I'm comfortable with (a), but not with the rest. So am I for or against "network neutrality"?




> > My first opinion is that no, the NBN should not have a right at all to decide on whether OTT companies are charged extra. He is free to have an opinion like anyone else on the discussion - but not a right to decide at all.
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> But NBN is one of the biggest reasons that the OTT players like Netflix are an issue because of the costs of their CVCs.
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> I think the debate at the moment should more be about the government writing off the NBN as an asset so they don't have to do cost recovery and should be able to eliminate the CVC charges entirely.
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> From: Laurie Patton <ceo at internet.org.au>
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> Date: Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:18 AM
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> Subject: [Internet Australia - members] Net neutrality
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> To: members at lists.internet.org.au
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> Thoughts please…
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> NBN chairman Ziggy Switkowski wants to talk about net neutrality | So does @internetAUS - this affects everyone. http://www.theage.com.au/business/nbn-chairman-ziggy-switkowski-wants-to-talk-about-net-neutrality-20151121-gl4s8n.html …
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