[AusNOG] Connecting a rural Community

Wed Nov 11 21:20:10 EST 2015

I took the "The community comprises 30 households and assorted work from
home businesses on a single property on a mountain top." to mean that it
was one single title. Therefore it's not crossing a property boundary,
staying within the 'immediate circle' of the group organising it, and so no
Telco act involvement?

Or am I reading that too literally? :)

On 11 November 2015 at 20:56, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:

> One per residence probably cheaper and a whole lot less hassle (nobody has
> mentioned yet that you might need a telco license, comply with DR laws,
> join the TIO, provide NBN equivalent wholesale services)
>
>
> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/11/optus-is-selling-50gb-of-mobile-data-for-70-a-month-taking-on-home-adsl-cable-and-nbn-plans/
> On 11 Nov 2015 20:28, <ausftth at mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Assuming you are outside NBN Fixed Wireless coverage (map:
>> http://www.mynbn.info/map ) , you can apply to be moved from satellite
>> to fixed wireless here:
>> http://www.nbnco.com.au/connect-home-or-business/technology-choice-program.html
>>
>> If you are not elegible for a fixed wireless upgrade then there is always
>> NBN satellite. The new Sky Muster satellite will come online early next
>> year, so this might give you some relief.
>>
>> If the above does not work out for you, contact Optus and ask if your
>> tower can be upgraded to 4G. If not (even with money changing hands), ask
>> if you can buy backhaul from the tower.
>>
>> You've already had an offer to hook you up. I'd most definitely look into
>> that.
>>
>> The best solution is to have somebody else (NBN, Optus, third party) hook
>> you up. The biggest problem you face isn't how to connect the buildings,
>> the biggest issues are securing affordable backhaul and that there are so
>> few of you to share costs.
>>
>> If NBN or Optus does not come through for you, then the only way forward
>> is to find a nearby location where you can buy backhaul or Internet
>> service. Even if you find such a location, just the monthly cost of
>> backhaul/service might make it unfeasible.
>>
>> In any case, best of luck!
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:51 PM
>> > From: "Andrew McN" <andrew at mcnaughty.com>
>> > To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> > Subject: [AusNOG] Connecting a rural Community
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm looking at options for improving the connectivity of a rural
>> > community about 90 minutes out of Melbourne.  I know a bit about server
>> > environments in a data center, but I don't know much about things like
>> > fibre, trenching, microwave links, or dealing with backhaul providers.
>> > So I'm looking for input about what sort of technologies I should be
>> > looking at, what costs I should expect, and maybe who might be able to
>> > help me.
>> >
>> > * The community comprises 30 households and assorted work from home
>> > businesses on a single property on a mountain top.
>> > * Power is off-grid solar.  There's excellent local skills for anything
>> > needed there.
>> > * There's phone lines, but ADSL and ISDN are not available.
>> > * There's an Optus Cell tower just 100m or so off the property.
>> > * There's good line of sight over a large area of populated land. with
>> > other Cell towers and the like.  None of this however is covered by any
>> > NBN roll-out either current or planned.
>> > * Fire risk is significant.
>> >
>> > The houses are arranged in 6 clusters, each of which has a fire shelter.
>> >  I'm thinking, perhaps naively,  it would be good to run fibre to each
>> > fire shelter, preferably underground, and then use above ground ethernet
>> > from there to the houses.  That would mean about 3km of underground
>> > cables.  I think the ground is sandy loam in most parts, but there's
>> > some bits where forested bits where tree roots might be an issue.  What
>> > do I need to know to work out likely costs here?  Is it just a cable
>> > which needs to go underground, or is some sort of conduit needed?
>> >
>> > What about the uplink?  Is Optus likely to be approachable about a fibre
>> > link right to their tower?  Is it a doable thing to arrange a private
>> > microwave link?  Who might I be looking to link to?  Costs?
>> >
>> > Any particular companies I should be aware of for setting this sort of
>> > thing up?
>> >
>> > Any help much appreciated.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Andrew
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