[AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250

[paul+ausnog at oxygennetworks.com.au]

Paul is spot on, having done the on-boarding process myself with NBN you have to have your CPE's approved, you basically take all of the ones you want approved with you to the NBN Lab and test configs, as well as your LNS, basically your whole network in a suitcase, then you configure it and they test, and test, and test, then they tell you what to fix and you fix it and they test again until it's all good, then they sign off on it from there, they are actually pretty helpful with the process, strangely enough I think we were the second company to do it after AAPT from memory for FTTN, so it's strange what people have been saying about AAPT not having an option at the moment.
 
Realistically you can use whatever CPE you want from there as long as it's compatible, but yes, vectoring is critical and must be enabled on the CPE or it won't happen.
 
Regards
Paul
 
From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Paul Brooks
Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2015 5:31 PM
To: Damien Gardner Jnr
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250
 
On 31/10/2015 4:23 PM, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
If it's anything like FTTN, you have to use the supplied router. I had FTTN installed a fortnight ago. I had sync for two hours on a Draytek Vigor 130, then it dropped. Telstra said third party devices aren't allowed, and the port will be re-enabled when the Telstra tech comes to complete the install with the Telstra-supplied modem.  But annoying as they had told me during ordering that I COULD use my own VDSL modem. 
Who was "they"? I believe NBN aren't providing CPE, leaving the CPE up to each RSP to sort out - so you might get "you can use your own CPE" from an NBNco (sorry - an *nbn*) person.

I've heard Telstra as the RSP are insisting on using only their supplied CPE (something about certification and testing), so if you were ordering it through Telstra (retail or wholesale), you can't use your own.

I believe the modem must support full vectoring, with a vectored chipset compatible with the NBN's DSLAMs  - un-vectored VDSL2 doesn't cut it, and detection of a VDSL2 CPE that doesn't include vector capability will cause the DSLAM or management system to disable the port, to prevent unvectored interference.

Just ignore that most MDU lines aren't long enough that vectored vs un-vectored makes a significant difference.

I see the Draytek page says "With firmware version 3.7.5, Vigor130 supports VDSL2 Vectoring" - so perhaps check your firmware, and whether vectoring support was enabled in the config, and give it another try.

Paul.
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