[AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise

[Damian Guppy]

That's pretty much what Comcast has done as I understand it.

--Damian

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Michael Gehrmann <
mgehrmann at macquarietelecom.com> wrote:

>  The fun thing is that most consumers/customers won’t know thus won’t
> demand it.
>
>
>
> I say deploy IPv6 by stealth and set every new CPE to be dual stack. All
> OS now support IPv6 by default. It really needs to be the ISP that leads
> this.
>
>
>
> Michael Gehrmann
>
> *Hosting Support Specialist – Networks Macquarie Telecom*
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Kristoffer
> Sheather @ CloudCentral
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 March 2015 10:23 AM
> *To:* Damien Gardner Jnr; Mark Andrews
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net; Kristoffer Sheather
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT -
> educational exercise
>
>
>
> If the customers needed it then the ISP's would be doing it.
>
>
>
> When it is needed every ISP under the sun that wants customers will be
> doing it.
>
>
>
> Thats the commercial and actual reality.
>
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>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From*: "Damien Gardner Jnr" <rendrag at rendrag.net>
> *Sent*: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:15 AM
> *To*: "Mark Andrews" <marka at isc.org>
> *Cc*: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>, "Kristoffer
> Sheather" <kris at cloudcentral.com.au>
> *Subject*: SPAM-MED: Re: [AusNOG] Data Retention and CGNAT - educational
> exercise
>
>
>
> It's that 'for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device' that's
> the problem.  How many Aussie ISP's are actually doing V6 for customers?  I
> have (almost) every service on my network dual-stacked (one shared-hosting
> server is yet to be done), and 2% of my total bandwidth volume is v6.
> Would be curious to hear what others are seeing :)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> DG
>
>
>
> On 26 March 2015 at 10:11, Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote:
>
>
> In message <41e778700a994314857ad4504f252419 at cloudcentral.com.au>,
> "Kristoffer Sheather @ C
> loudCentral" writes:
> >
> > IPv6 won't go anywhere until IPv4 doesn't work anymore.  That day is not
> > today despite the numerous arguments and flames I expect to receive
> > subsequent to this message.
> >
> >   Regards,
> > Kristoffer Sheather
>
> If you turn on IPv6 +50% of your traffic will shift to IPv6 immediately
> for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device.  This is
> *not* IPv6 going nowhere.
>
> The content providers are going IPv6-only internally translating
> IPv4 to IPv6.
>
> If you ship CPE router make sure they are IPv6 capable.
>
> If you do not ship CPE routers provide a list of IPv6 capable routers
> you are happy with.  IPv6 routers can be got for < $100 AUD.
>
> --
> Mark Andrews, ISC
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka at isc.org
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