[AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU

Wed Mar 25 03:11:16 EST 2015

Most of the geo-location avoidance schemes people have been using for
NetFlix only affect the control-channel connections (ie, login, accessing
the catalogue, etc) and not the actual content download which always came
from the closest source.

Historically much of the content actually came via Akamai from local
Australian caches, although I think NetFlix moved away from that some time
ago.

This has frequently been sighted as proof that NetFlix didn't care about
the geolocation restrictions, and only took it seriously enough to
(sometimes) keep their rights-holders happy, with no real interest in where
people were accessing their service from.

  Scott

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Nathan Brookfield <
Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au> wrote:

>  That’s very interesting, I’ve just checked the same thing and can
> confirm 100% you’re spot on the money, this traffic is US content as well
> J Magic!
>
>
>
> *From:* Seamus Ryan [mailto:s.ryan at uber.com.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 March 2015 11:02 PM
> *To:* Nathan Brookfield
>
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
> My smart TV is still configured to use unblock-us, and my IP is still
> active for USA content…. Yet the only IP it is connecting to is
> 23.246.29.136 (ipv4_1.cxl0.c017.syd001.ix.nflxvideo.net)
>
>
>
> This would suggest unblock-us is smart enough to know where to send me now
> (I did notice they only made “Australia” active as a location today).
>
>
>
> **shrugs**
>
>
>
> It works, so I isn’t complaining J
>
>
>
> -          Seamus
>
>
>
> *From:* Nathan Brookfield [mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au
> <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 March 2015 10:55 PM
> *To:* Seamus Ryan; Joshua D'Alton; Sean Finn
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU
> *Importance:* High
>
>
>
> It is my understanding Seamus that this is ‘AU’ content only, anyone using
> a VPN etc would still be popping out into the US because of the DNS
> workarounds and this is not that traffic.
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] *On Behalf Of *Seamus Ryan
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 March 2015 10:52 PM
> *To:* Joshua D'Alton; Sean Finn
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU
>
>
>
> So I guess I have to ask…. Is this just the typical Netflix usage, or has
> Australia actually exploded into Netflix today?
>
> I would assume before today any Netflix content was being pulled from the
> USA, now that it is here in Australia, all the people using vpn/dns
> services to get around geo-blocking are just hitting the content locally.
>
>
>
> We may never know… unless Netflix discloses signup statis for the next few
> weeks.
>
>
>
> -          Seamus
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>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] *On Behalf Of *Joshua D'Alton
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 March 2015 10:27 PM
> *To:* Sean Finn
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU
>
>
>
> Well they say in the US it's up to 30% so I'd say it's possible it's at
> least 10% currently
>
> On 24/03/2015 10:01 pm, "Sean Finn" <sean at wikwok.com> wrote:
>
>  So considering NSWIX shows the aggregate for the exchange at 40Gbps or
> so at present, and Netflix is responsible for approx 5% of it, and as NSW
> is fairly representative of the rest of the nation give or take....
>
>
>
> ..
>
>
>
> My question is....
>
> Does that mean Netflix is currently 10% of all Australian Internet usage
> at this point in time?
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>
> S
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> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:47 PM, James Braunegg <
> james.braunegg at micron21.com> wrote:
>
>  Nar its 5gbit +
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>
> 3gbit+ on one port… 2gbit on the second port.. ;) Go NSW-IX
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> Kindest Regards
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *James
> Hodgkinson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:45 PM
> *To:* Sean Finn
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU
>
>
>
> Better make that 3....
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> On 24 March 2015 at 19:57, Sean Finn <sean at wikwok.com> wrote:
>
> Looks like Australian usage of NetFlix has suddenly spiked past the 2 GB
> Mark.
>
>
>
> Well done Netflix + NSW-IX getting the traffic as close to eyeballs as
> possible!
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> http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph.php?local_graph_id=354&rra_id=all
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> S.
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> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Joe Wooller <joe at waia.asn.au> wrote:
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> Hey Tony,
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>
> That colour is actually “peak” usage. :)
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>
> Joe
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>  On 12 Mar 2015, at 11:28 am, Tony <td_miles at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> What's also suspicious about that graph is that the lines for traffic IN &
> OUT are the same (on top of each other). I would have expected any content
> provider(esp. netflix) it should be heavily skewed in one direction ?
>
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> *From:* Brad Evans <brad at delion.com.au>
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:26
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU
>
>
>
> With some downtime between. Looks like a re-used port and the cacti data
> hasn't been flushed.
>
> What I'm curious about is that Netflix isn't open for Australian market
> until late March and they have 600Mbps of traffic on NSW-IX.
>
> -Brad
>
>
>
> On 12/03/2015 2:23 PM, Nick Stallman wrote:
>
> Weird. Does anyone else notice that the NSW-IX graph goes back to May last
> year?
>
> On 12/03/15 14:20, Shane Goulden wrote:
>
> NSW-IX too:
> http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph.php?local_graph_id=354&rra_id=all
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> Shane
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