[AusNOG] CA Data Retention costs letter to Ministers

[Rod Veith]

Any letter the comms alliance puts to the government should clearly state it
does not know how many ISPs oppose their views or that they do not have the
support of 'x' number of ISPs. Failure to do so may be misleading the
government on how much support they do have.

 

Rod

 

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Brooks
Sent: Monday, 16 March 2015 11:10 AM
To: Robert Hudson
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] CA Data Retention costs letter to Ministers

 

On 16/03/2015 10:54 AM, Robert Hudson wrote:

Does this mean that the Comms Alliance is giving up and accepting that the
metadata retention legislation WILL be passed, and that you're just now
trying to minimise damage to yourselves?


I don't speak for Comms Alliance, I'm just helping stakeholders work
together. This list has complained loudly that this subsection of the
community wasn't being consulted - well, now's your chance to contribute.
I'm just a matchmaker. If you want to know Comms Alliance's motivations
Robert - feel free to call John and ask him.

Personally, I like to cover all bases. There are three possible outcomes for
the metadata retention legislation - it will be passed, it will be delayed
for further changes, it will be blocked.
If its blocked, then the letter does no harm.
It its delayed, the letter and combined weight of the industry helps make
sure that the costs issue - how much, and how it can be distributed - is
part of the post-match debate.
If its passed, the letter.........ditto.

So preparing and signing the letter doesn't mean anyone is going to 'give
up' trying to stop the legislation. But I dont speak for the combined
membership of Comms Alliance.

Paul.






 

On 16 March 2015 at 10:47, Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au>
wrote:

Colleagues all - Comms Alliance is preparing a letter to be sent to George
Brandis and Malcolm Turnbull, seeking certainty on the arrangements and
amount the Government will contribute to the communications industry to
implement the new data retention requirements - to be jointly signed by CEOs
of carriers and carriage service providers.
So far the CEOs of most of the largest service providers have  agreed to
sign.

I asked John - and he agreed  - to open this up to ISPs that are not members
of Comms Alliance.

If you are the CEO of an ISP/carrier/CSP please email me and I will send you
the draft letter and list of CEOs currently agreed to sign, and you can then
decide if you are happy with the wording and would like to add your name to
the list - or not, no obligation. (I'd post it, but there are a lot of
non-ISP people on the list, and while the letter is draft it should be kept
within the industry until its finalised).

If your CEO is not on this list, please ask them to email me or call me on
0414 366 605.

They'd like to finalise it by this afternoon, so please respond to me
quickly so I can get you the draft.

cheers,
    Paul..


On 15/03/2015 10:04 AM, John Stanton wrote:

 

Hi Paul

 

Here's the current draft of the letter and an indication of some of the
signatories on board - do you want to post on AusNog on behalf of CA and see
if anyone want to join? Time is tight though - need to finalise tomorrow
afternoon 

 

Regards

John Stanton 
CEO | Communications Alliance Ltd | Level 12/75 Miller St | North Sydney NSW
2060
P: 02 9959 9130   M: 0434 318 777 | stanton at commsalliance.com.au |
www.commsalliance.com.au <http://www.commsalliance.com.au/> 


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