[AusNOG] Job: Head of Network Operations - NEXTDC - SydneyC

[Skeeve Stevens]

Interesting perspective.... but I see things from both sides... not just an
employee trying to get the most money possible - which isn't always a smart
move.

Yes, sure, big companies can afford that, but a lot of people prefer to
work for smaller companies, or for themselves... not everyone wants to be a
contractor either.

I was just making a suggestion on how someone could be employed full-time,
but work for a couple of employers and still drive a good normal full-time
wage out of it.  At no time did I suggest what that rate should be.


...Skeeve


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On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:

>
> On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Something I'd also recommend to some engineers... consider
> timesharing... I.e. working part time for two or three people - at
> normalish wages, not contracting hourly wages... a good way to create
> yourself a fulltime job.
>
> If someone is going to do that, why wouldn’t they do the same thing at
> contracting rates?
>
> > Btw... I'm not trying to get 'cheap' people, I am just saying that most
> employers don't want to pay contractor rates on a long term basis.
>
> A contractor doesn’t need to care what “most” employers want, they only
> need to care about what the clients they’re specifically offering their
> services to want.
>
> There are plenty of companies out there who employ people full-time on
> contracting rates, so it can’t be that hard. Anyone who’s getting less than
> normal contracting rates for their part time work probably should be having
> a heart-to-heart with their current employer about their willingness to
> continue the arrangement :-)
>
> For what it’s worth: This is a community of, mostly, people who work for
> network operators. I’m not convinced that it’s in this community’s best
> interests for anyone to drive down the pay and conditions for people who
> work for network operators, unless, like you, they actually own the
> business that’s providing the pay and conditions.
>
> Shorter: Your goals aren’t aligned with employees’ goals, which might be
> something to consider when you’re offering career advice to employees.
>
>    - mark
>
>
>
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