[AusNOG] From the AGD - Data Retention - Starts October 15 2015

[Damien Gardner Jnr]

I just had a quick read of the act  - Would be nice if they actually gave a
nice english document explaining who needs to keep data, who they need to
keep it on (end users only, or all users?), what services (seems to be any
carriage service - adsl/efm/fibre/wifi/3g - and comms services such as voip
?  But not things like vpn/webhosting/streaming audio/vds/dedi/etc ?), and
exactly what data?

Seems like for VOIP, you would be keeping time of call, source, dest,
length of call ? And for carriage services, you'd keep time, source IP,
dest IP (so a subset of netflow, easiest to keep it in netflow format and
just export out what's needed if you ever need it?  Though that's still a
decent amount of data to need to keep somewhere..



On 10 June 2015 at 10:10, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:

>  From reading those pages it seems to indicated source, destination, time
> and type of the communication. Perfect job for this appears to be netflow
> data - netflow itself holds a lot more information that may not be
> necessary but it seems to be the best way to pull that information at a
> quick glance, no?
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> On 10/06/15 10:06, Noel Butler wrote:
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> Why would you keep netflow for DR, they don't want to know where your
> customers go or what they d/l from, only who your customer is.
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> It's rather scary some of you people have no idea, despite it being
> plastered all over the frickin place for months now, including in the Bill
> itself and even a short FAQ as to what you need to keep (which is a direct
> copy from the Bill thats been floating around for ages) on the AG's website.
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> On 10/06/2015 09:28, Joseph Goldman wrote:
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> I wonder how much realistically that $131.3 mill will be split and
> provided - but ultimately it looks like for the most part, Netflow data
> married with IP history to a subscriber will cover the broad strokes. To
> cover a recent discussion, would sFlow be applicable with its sampling rate
> unless set to N=1?
>  2 Years of that could be quite a lot of disk space filled up. I'll also
> be keen to know what kind of penalties or reporting there may be in the
> instance an outage on collecting this data occurs (say server freezes and
> it takes 10 minutes to fix, 10 minute gap in data etc)
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