[AusNOG] A thoughtful note

[Shane Chrisp]

On 14/07/15 23:09, Skeeve Stevens wrote:

And for those interested in some light reading on defamation when 
someone published facts, look up T3 v McNicol case. Yes it cost a lot to 
defend, but the truth won out.

> It should be pointed out that this is civil litigation.  It costs as
> much (if not more) to pursue it as it does to defend against it.  Very
> few lawyers will take a defamation cases on contingency.
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> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
> <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>      >>Do you know that a fact, does not consitute defamation no matter
>     how much you may not like it?
>
>     Shane,
>     Please don't confuse US law with Australian law. Believe all you
>     like truth is an absolute defence, but if it gets to court, you'll
>     find actual damage to reputation, regardless of truth, will cost an
>     arm and a leg. It amuses me that so much of what is general
>     perception of the law emanates from US posters.
>
>     (I am not a lawyer. This is not expert opinion)
>
>     Paul Wilkins
>
>
>
>     On 14 July 2015 at 18:14, Shane Chrisp <shane at 2000cn.com.au
>     <mailto:shane at 2000cn.com.au>> wrote:
>
>         On 14/07/15 16:06, Mark Newton wrote:
>
>           I read your post, and all I could come up with was, "Huh"?
>         Dont know what you have been reading, but I dont think it was
>         the thread I think you are referring to. All I have seen posted
>         is information which is based on fact. Do you know that a fact,
>         does not consitute defamation no matter how much you may not
>         like it?
>
>           Anyway, there are list operators who can make these decisions
>         without everyone else trying to do their jobs for them every
>         time they think someone or something has over stepped, so why
>         not let them do it.
>
>         Shane
>
>
>
>             Making public accusations of criminality is actionable if,
>             after due consideration,
>             it turns out that your speculation about who this person is,
>             what they have been
>             accused of doing, and whether the accusations have merit, is
>             revealed to be wrong.
>
>             It’s also pretty aggressively reckless to use this forum to
>             kick over these coals
>             without knowing whether the AusNOG Directors’ insurance
>             policies cover defamation.
>             Shoot your mouth off, and who might lose their house is
>             anyone’s guess, eh?
>
>             I suspect AusNOG is not the place to make these accusations.
>             Perhaps if you want
>             to expose mailing list operators like that, do it on a list
>             that you, personally,
>             operate.
>
>             "Stop thread?"
>
>                 - mark
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